The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[milkyjoe]

As your plants get bigger and more vital they dump more root exudates into your soil at night. This increases microbe activity and provides more nutrients to the plant.

If your soil was designed with enough "available but not soluble" nutrients you should not have to feed anything through top dressing. This is the true advantage of big holes and highish cec soils.

If you can get the plant to dump fats through the roots along with sugar you pretty much have it made...you are literally building humus at that point.

Feeding anything soluble at this point short circuits the whole process. The plants take up the soluble nutes...along with water, that lowers the brix and sends less sugar/fat to the roots, reduces microbe activity and sends things in the wrong direction.

Stick with foliars to jack up microbe activity through increased photosynthesis is my thinking.

 

[OrganicBuds]

I agree Milkyjoe. Would a top dressing of compost fit into that line of thinking or no? Not really feeding them per say. Maybe just EWC then?

 

[Biosynthesis]

Joe Dirt- Sounds good. I am preparing to topdress myself. Thought I would keep it on the cheep and just toss cow manure on top. Cant afford the EWC or I would. My chicken manure hasnt had time to compost and I am afraid of overdoing it, or I would add that.

 

[furrywall11]

I used Jamaican bat guano last year as a top dressing alongside the General Organics line... Had some sour d buds as wide as two liter coke bottles.

 

[Veg N Out]

As your plants get bigger and more vital they dump more root exudates into your soil at night. This increases microbe activity and provides more nutrients to the plant.

If your soil was designed with enough "available but not soluble" nutrients you should not have to feed anything through top dressing. This is the true advantage of big holes and highish cec soils.

If you can get the plant to dump fats through the roots along with sugar you pretty much have it made...you are literally building humus at that point.

Feeding anything soluble at this point short circuits the whole process. The plants take up the soluble nutes...along with water, that lowers the brix and sends less sugar/fat to the roots, reduces microbe activity and sends things in the wrong direction.

Stick with foliars to jack up microbe activity through increased photosynthesis is my thinking.

This^

I can tell oils production is up because the yard already smells dank.

Fisher, you make me want to grow blue dream

 

[Cep]

Fisher, you make me want to grow blue dream

That seems like high praise, considering your low opinion of blue dream (if I remember right from previous posts).

One thing I wanted to ask is when do you guys lay down straw on your beds/mounds/pots?

Reason being is that when I put mine down weeks ago I got a good amount of rain on top of it which led to a field of wheat....

Am I the only one who is breaking his back pulling this stuff or do you guys have a straw source that is seed free?

 

[fisher15]

Lol. That may be high praise. I'm definitely ready for something else in the garden, but yeah..it's hard to hate on 8x8' plants right now!

The light dep buds are taking the heat well. I've been blasting them with cold water through the atomizer about an hour before pulling tarp.

Milkyjoe- great post, man.

I use the rice straw, no seeds.

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Light Dep

Light Dep

LAX3 : LA Confidential x Orange Crush x Salmon Creek Big Bud

 

[alex67230]

check out what mexico has going on THREE HUNDRED ACRE GROW HIDDEN UNDER SHADE CLOTH http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2015001/Largest-marijuana-plantation-hidden-black-netting-Mexican-desert.html

 

[Yes4Prop215]

damn fisher i dont even want to post pics anymore after you showed off those beasts!! lol...

heres some of my mounds...il post the dumbpot gardens later. everyday i hate dumbpots more and more....wish i had ALL MOUNDS!

 

[OrganicBuds]

check out what mexico has going on THREE HUNDRED ACRE GROW HIDDEN UNDER SHADE CLOTH http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2015001/Largest-marijuana-plantation-hidden-black-netting-Mexican-desert.html

This was from 2011 and shown in this thread many times.

 

[Veg N Out]

@Yes4Prop215 - Hey bud your mounds look like they will do well for you. Lets give a big up to FillthePotMore for showing us the way eh? Are you going to bury that PVC? White PVC isn't rated to lay out in the sun like that.

 

[mendo420]

i love my smartpots!

 

[milkyjoe]

looks like they love you to...nice grow right there.

 

[alex67230]

This was from 2011 and shown in this thread many times.

sorry about that it was the first time ive seen it i was just astonishing how big it is. ive been around here absorbing priceless info on this forum for a few seasons just never posted anything before

 

[Yes4Prop215]

mendo if i had plants like that i would love them too! but have you noticed that the tan sided ones, and even the black ones, sometimes rip up after a few seasons? i got a few 200s where the sides are ripping apart, its aggravating to see them fall apart so quickly.

also another reason i hate dumbpots is because especially in this heat wave, the sides are cookin, and im sure any roots that have reached the sides are being restricted from growth....in mounds they can keep stretching and stretching...

i dont even want to post these lol....after the giants posted by fisher and mendo. they are a little smaller but the vigour is out of control, and we are way ahead of last year in terms of size and health.

mountain dumbpot garden with mostly blue dreams and dream queens. planted may 28th...

dumbpot garden duece with mostly blue dreams and 4SD, planted may 21st...

some extra 300 gal dumbpots we put next to the mound garden...planted june 1st with 6in clones, they are blue dreams and vigourous in growth so im not too worried about the smaller size they will explode in the next month..yea veg didnt know white PVC isnt rated, probably just gonna leave them out and fix here and there if they leak. is the black poly tubing rated better?

 

[warthog]

lookin good prop!

 

[Cep]

Yes4Prop215,

Your gardens are still killer. You have to consider that whats featured in this thread represents the top .1% of outdoor skill and efficiency.

I wanted to know what you think you'll pull off those smaller dreams that you said were planted at 6" on June 1st?

 

[alex67230]

awesome seeing how good everyone's gardens are doing heres a few shots of my garden a few minutes ago all blue dream and one banana kush

 

[Yes4Prop215]

im guessin the low end would be 3-4 per pot...but i will have a better estimate in late july early august when i see how much they stretch.

i planted 12in beercup blue dreams last year on june 24th, they didnt "catch" until mid july and still hit 3.5-4 lb per 200. those are in 300 gallons of norcal blend soil, and they already caught in mid june and have been growing inches every day so im hoping they will blow up in july...still though, not ideal. in retrospect i wish i planted EVERYTHING in mid may this year.....