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Haze #19 X Skunk #1 - 3 week cure

Dirt Life

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Summary:

Lineage: Haze19 X Skunk (Nirvana)

Family: Original Haze / Skunk #1

Origins: Mexico, Columbia, Thailand, India, Afghanistan

Region: America / Netherlands

Genotype: Mixed, Primarily Sativa (85-90%)

Indoor Maturation: 90 Days +/- (My plant was taken @ 95)

Sex Possibilities: Standard M/F (Non-Feminized)

Stature: Short stretch (3 - 3.5x), single pole branches, zero christmas tree bushing. Buds run solid up and down each cola, with colas getting bigger/thicker the closer you get to the crown. Strings of larger, spear-tip shaped calyxes stack up on one another.


Ratings are based on numbers [1] - [10], terrible/weak to awesome/strong.


Plant Yield: [5 - 6] - Medium to medium/large, give or take.

Plant Odor Description: Pine needles and tropical fruit, which matures into a table grape fruitiness.

Plant & Bud Odor Strength: [3] - Low, and not what most average consumers would consider "cannabis" smelling.

Bud Odor Description: A sweet pine/menthol & mint, with earthy/herbal aromas aswell. All fruit/grape aromas seem to dissapear in cure.
Edit: When grown properly and cured properly, she is pretty much all incense in the jars.

Bud Odor Appeal: [3 - 4.5] - Pleasant, subtlely sweet & refreshing... but nondescript and light odor.

Bud Visual Appeal: [4.5 - 5] - She's pretty well coated in trichomes, but she's a bit wispy and golden colored. Compared to a dence, lime green or purple frosty indica, bag appeal would be lower for the average consumer. But we know better. :)

Dry Hit Taste: Sweet pine & mint.

Smoke Taste: Piney solvents, flowers (lilacs, lavander, ect...), metallic, herbal, musky, woody. More minty than sweet.

Taste Level/Appeal: [6] - I enjoy it, but it's a light & complex taste which doesn't last long. Does not coat the mouth, more like a splash and fade. She burns hotter in pipes/bongs/spoons ect..., but the minty-pine is more pronounced in taste than in a joint. I prefer her rolled over packed, though.

High or Stoned: High

Strength Of High: [7 - 7.5] - Strong, but shorter in duration than I was expecting (45 minutes - 1 hour). This is not where she shines, though.
Edit: After growing her for 5-6 years now, I can CONFIDENTLY say that the original length I put down here is off, and since dialing her in and curing correctly, she is very long lasting and very euphoric.

Quality Of High: [8 - 8.5] - This is where she shines. Creeper weed, takes a few minutes to feel the rush, but she comes on like a rollercoaster. That rush is my favorite part of the high, I've found myself smoking a good amount of the Hz/Sk chasing it, at times. Tingling sensations starting on your back, at the base of your head and shoulders, climbing up your neck and wrapping around your dome and cresting in your forhead. Then the euphoria. Feels so damn good you giggle as it happens. Then the mind rush comes on, which leads to the longer duration part of the dazed and hazy high.

Effect: All in the head, body tingles, euphoric, happy weed with a pretty unique, creeper-rush onset and a decently strong, pillow-lined high, that is better with moderate usage. Over consumption turns a spacey, dazed high, into a confusing "foggy swamp" in your brain that dissapates in 45 minutes - 1 hour, whether overdone or not. Absolutley NO anxiety or paranoia at all, even when overdone. Same can be said about her racyness, or lack there of. No edge or heart speed up on this high. Great (in moderation) multitask weed, good for minor/medium physical activity, but not so much so for just sitting still or studying as she is cerebral & mentally energetic, but unfocused. Million mile-per-hour, mind racing, fuzzy thought slideshows. As far as how clear the high is, it varies considerably. With moderate usage, it's hazy & scattered, but a clearer haze, and gets foggier & muddier the more you smoke in one sitting. A couple pulls off a joint every 20 - 30 minutes is where I find an ideal balance of hazy, speedier, motivating happiness, and foggy, zoned-out, and a bit muddy happiness. And just to note, I can't remember any dank in my whole life which gives me such red-eyed symptoms. I say "symptoms", because it's like hayfever irritation on my eyes, like pollen or animal allergies, which I don't have at all. Glowing red, puffy, dry-feeling, & itchy... it's pretty crazy, actually; not too sure if that's a positive or negative attribute.



Smoke Report:


Hey, IC! Just wanted to post this smoke report on my first run of this plant. Unfortunately, my initial go at this hybrid was far from dialed, but the buds still came out pretty good. I first started this report 4 days ago, a little over 3 weeks into cure, and have been smoking the Hz/Sk for as long, so I would go back and update this report with my newest opinions on this hybrid. I figured at first that a 3 week cure was good enough to try, but after the first taste, I knew I would need to smoke more than once to fully appreciate and document this girl. I've also found myself dipping into the jars more than I would like, so I'm going to lay off her a bit now and let her cure more, and will note any further changes in the future.

Anyways, while alive, the plant has a grape and pine needle/menthol smell when matured, but, after 3 weeks in the jars, any fruity smell it once had has evaporated, but the "sweetness" is still there. Inhaling the aroma of the jars, the smell is light, almost cool on the nose, with a bit of "mintyness" mixing in, with the prominent smell being an earthy, herbal smell. Very nondescript, not unpleasant at all, just not pungent at all, either.

After taking out a few buds for the test, on visual inspection and comparing how the bud looked before cure, they have taken on a light tan/khaki/golden hue to them. The bud is a bit light and fluffy, but definately denser than a purer haze or haze hybrid. What I enjoy most visually about her is her frost coverage, and her larger, spear-tip shaped calyxes. Chopping/grinding the buds are easy, she does however gum up the works a bit, especially with scissors (what I use), due to her resin content. And that leads us back to the smell.

Breaking down the buds releases all the aromas, and basically, this bud has an all around sweet pine/mint/antiseptic smell. The earthy/herbal smell gets overpowered by the sweet pine-sol aromas, but overall, still a subtle, light scent. And again, no fruit smells. I've also noticed over time that a couple of buds have had an immature seed or two in it, hollow and grey/green. I'm chalking that up to enviromental stresses due to grower error, but even if that is genetic, still not a dealbreaker at all. She still qualifies as sensi.

Rolling this bud is a breeze, as after the first twist, she easily and instantly binds together, and holds the joint shape like memory foam. Dry hitting her results in a mouthfull of sweet, piney goodness that lasts a second or two. Very nice. You can't help but dry hit her several times before ignition. After cherry, on the first real pull of the joint, she has a piney-floral & metallic flavor, a bit like how a pine air freshener, lilacs, and tin or aluminum foil would taste. The initial taste lingers on until exhale, and fades away with the aftertaste, which is an herbal, musky, sandalwood taste. It does not really coat the mouth, more along the lines of giving your tastebuds a splash, and then fading away in 20 - 30 seconds. I can't help but use light & subtle again in descriptive terms, but she is both along with complex, and to be honest, the smell translates pretty accurately to the taste.

Now we get down to where this girl shines, and that would be the high. Not because of her strength, which is pretty strong; when the high kicks in, it's a great feeling, and can be a bit intense. Her ceiling seems pretty high, the more you smoke, the higher you get, but, it's also very easy to smoke yourself into a zoned-out, "staring contest with nothing" daze pretty easily, too. This isn't an unpleasant or anxiety ridden daze, more like the "have conversations with yourself while looking for your lost car keys for the last twenty minutes even though they've been in your right hand the whole time" kind of dazed. Foggy, muddy, and a bit confusing too, but, that's if you smoke yourself up to that. Moderately, she is scattered & hazy, but clearer and euphoric/happy. My cousin described the high as "swimming in her own brain".

Where this bud really shines though, is the quality of the high. After taking your first couple of pulls, it takes a few minutes for the high to come on, but it starts off with a rush! The best way to describe the feeling would be what it feels like right at the very tip-top of the first drop of a rollercoaster... that tingling, exciting rush! Tingling sensations in your back, shoulders, head, sometimes in your arms, like goosebump tingling. Soon after that first rush is when the euphoria kicks in. Everything is right with the world, everyone loves each other type of euphoria... you genuinly feel great, an overall sense of well-being. Giggle weed, definately. And after the initial rush and euphoric/happy feel comes on, your mind opens up to many different thoughts all at once. It's hard to focus on one particular subject, I find myself constantly wandering in my head, same with my physical self.

The comedown is smooth, and a bit short. Your not burned out, rather more just in a comfortable, pillowy state. You have cushions strapped to your head. Not tired, but relaxed (especially in your mind after that race), more so if you have been smoking less than more. The room odor after you smoke is incense, but when you leave the smokey room for a while and then return, you can really get a clear idea of the room odor, which is a very acrid, tangy, and heavy incense. There's also a little sweet earthyness to it, too. Think of what a church would smell like if they burned bitter orange peels and savory herbs (along with their other "churchy" incenses).

Overall, I would rate this particular phenotype of this particular hybrid @ [7 - 8], with [8] being generous. The high really works for me and my body chemistry, but with that said, the tingling sensations and rush were felt by multiple people, but everyone seemed to describe it differently. Some said waves, others said twitches, and one even said it felt like "being lightly tickled with a feather". Point being, it seems to effect everyone a bit differently, and growing her, she threw several curveballs. VERY nutrient sensitive, to both amount & frequency, and she has more legs on her in veg. than flower. But, for a 90 day hazey, spacey, euphoric up/cerebral high with a unique (and beautiful) onset, I'm going to hold on to her, and plan to explore her a little more with some pollen-chucks and maybe some CS. :)
 
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Dirt Life

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Here are the first few buds I tried of her, with the camera flash used. :)

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Dirt Life

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These pics were taken a day or two later, on a window sill in semi-direct sunlight, except the last picture, which is the best I can do in taking a close-up shot of the trichs. :)

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Gelado`

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Good stuff, I almost picked up a pack of this for 10 Euro (old stock on clearance at a local grow shop). I may have to go back and pick it up if they still have it. ;)
 
Nice report! Makes me want to go through my old sativa seeds in the freezer. I've focused most of my life growing indicas but some day I'm going to get back to my Tai hybrids. Looks like you have some Tai influences in a pic of your bud structure. Could be wrong but looks real nice! Thanks for sharing!
 

bigherb

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Im Droolin

I love those details ,Amazing Report and beautiful pics

I look forward to you dialing her in ,keep us posted



1luvbigherb
 

Dirt Life

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Thanks for the nice words, everyone! :) I tell you all something, I haven't touched the Hz/Sk since I've been home from work today, but she really is tempting me. I'm toking some decent bud right now, but all I'm thinking about is that hazey high. She's not done curing by a great deal imo, but wow, I really want to smoke her.

blan-k-flor said:
Awesome report bro!!!

Thanks, blan! I tried to respond to the comment you left me (thanks for that, by the way), but either I'm just too much of a noob to figure out how to respond, or my account is still restricted by the "new member" restrictions, in which, I can't respond. Just wanted to let you know.

Gelado said:
Good stuff, I almost picked up a pack of this for 10 Euro (old stock on clearance at a local grow shop). I may have to go back and pick it up if they still have it. ;)

Hey, Gelado! I also bought this pack as discontinued stock @ the 'bou for $17. Well worth it, but, the pack I received was so old, that it didn't even have all of the older Nirvana strains listed on the breeder pack, let alone any of the newer ones. I ended up germing the whole pack (8 seeds total, two were imature and hollow in the pack), and out of a 6 week gestation, only one seed cracked (after 24 hours), and that is the plant I have today. I also ended up putting all 8 seeds dropped into a matchbox that was sandpaper lined to help scuff the surfaces. With that said, any pack you get will be years, if not over a decade old. Take all the steps you can to ensure a more successful germination ratio, and good luck! If you (or anyone) has any Haze19 hybrid plant/grow pics, I would love to see them! So please feel free to post pics here.

MassSuperSkunk said:
Nice report! Makes me want to go through my old sativa seeds in the freezer. I've focused most of my life growing indicas but some day I'm going to get back to my Tai hybrids. Looks like you have some Tai influences in a pic of your bud structure. Could be wrong but looks real nice! Thanks for sharing!

Hey, MSS! Thanks for the nice words. As far as the Thai goes, I can't tell you from personal experience as I've never really grown any Thais out as far as purity is concerned... hybrids of hybrids with Thai in the make-up, sure, plenty of those, but not something so pure as I could make any judgements or comparisons. But, I know bigherb made comparisons between my decription of this hybrid and to the purple haze, which I definately agree with. Anyways, thanks for the kind words again, and I'm glad you enjoyed the report.

bigherb said:
Im Droolin

I love those details ,Amazing Report and beautiful pics

I look forward to you dialing her in ,keep us posted


1luvbigherb

Hey, bigherb! Thanks for the nice words! Hope you don't mind me using you in the quote above. TBH, I had you in mind when I was writing the majority of this report. There's hardly any info on the web about Haze #19 and the hybrids created with it, so I figure the more detailed, the better. Anyways, thanks for the kind words again, and when I run her again, I'll update this thread with pics of her. Take care.

HidingInTheHaze said:
95 days, not too shabby for a 50% haze.

I'm in agreement with you there, HITH! IMO, the skunks heaviest influence on this particular pheno is the overall structure of the plant, the yield, and probably a small shortening of time in flower (although I don't know if the original haze19 selection is a quicker flowering haze or not). The bud structure and high however leans very hazy. Take care.

outsidegrower said:
yup nirvana sure has great seeds for the price. great report!

100% agreement, there! Have had great luck with Nirvana, especially their older "posi" stock. Thanks for the kind words, OSG!

vidro said:
good read! keep reading...! the summary and the smoke report are very good.

Hey, thanks vidro! I'm glad you enjoyed the report.
 

Gelado`

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MC, the guys at the store said it was five years old and they refrigerate everything. I bought New York Power Diesel and Raspberry Cough, but haven't tried to germ them yet. If I get a decent germ rate, I'll raid their fridge for all the discount stuff they have left! :D
 

Pinball Wizard

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I just started germinating some Nirvana Haze19xSkunk seeds I bought from the boutique in November 2011. (very tiny seeds?)

I should know something by Christmas
 

yoss33

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Very nice report :)
I've never been disappointed by Nirvana's (Sativa Seedbank) sativas.
And I love their pure Haze (Haze #1, Haze #13 or whatever they call it now), been smoking it the last 6 months and it gets better and better. Euphoric clear kindness which when overindulged, like you describe, sends you to a comfortable dreamy haze. Pure old-school goodness.
I keep a stash of a powerful Thai hybrid for the rare cases the Haze feels too kind and I want something harder-hitting, but this desire is quite rare - I want to smoke the Haze from the morning till falling asleep. Definitely high-quality high that can enhance every occasion.
 

Dirt Life

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Gelado said:
MC, the guys at the store said it was five years old and they refrigerate everything. I bought New York Power Diesel and Raspberry Cough, but haven't tried to germ them yet. If I get a decent germ rate, I'll raid their fridge for all the discount stuff they have left! :D

Awesome, man! That sounds great. Good luck on both the diesel and the cough, along with any other packs you get. :)

Pinball Wizard said:
I just started germinating some Nirvana Haze19xSkunk seeds I bought from the boutique in November 2011. (very tiny seeds?)

I should know something by Christmas

Hey, PW! Me and you seem to share a lot of the same interests in Nirvana gear. ;) Good luck with that stock man, I bought mine around the same time (escapes my memory at this time, but I write the dates received down on all the packs I get) and I know it's really old, so I hope you get a good germination ratio. The beans. if I remember them right, were mixed in size. Some were small, some were average size, and a couple were not fully developed. Anyways, if you end up startign a grow thread or something, could you let me know? I would love to follow along.

yoss33 said:
Very nice report :)

I've never been disappointed by Nirvana's (Sativa Seedbank) sativas. And I love their pure Haze (Haze #1, Haze #13 or whatever they call it now), been smoking it the last 6 months and it gets better and better. Euphoric clear kindness which when overindulged, like you describe, sends you to a comfortable dreamy haze. Pure old-school goodness. I keep a stash of a powerful Thai hybrid for the rare cases the Haze feels too kind and I want something harder-hitting, but this desire is quite rare - I want to smoke the Haze from the morning till falling asleep. Definitely high- quality high that can enhance every occasion.

Hey, yoss! Agreed on the Nirvana Hazes and the Sativa Seedbank, I grew out a mixed pack a while back, I belive it was before Nirvana aquired SSeedbank, and was pleasantly surprised with a couple of females I found out of a pack. And actually, your review on Nirvanas Haze in the strains & hybrids section (along with another strain you reviewed in the same thread I believe) helped me decide to grab the pack I did. I was deciding between the Hz/Sk and the Maui-Waui X Hawiian (or skunk, I can't remember), and the reviews on the haze (yours included) clenched it for me. Anyways, thanks for the kind words! :)
 

Azhden

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I might have to dig into my stash of beans and pull this one out for next round. Didn't find many reports on it years back when I bought it, but I knew I wasn't going to wait 14-18+ weeks to try a haze, so Haze19 Skunk was a sure try for 18$ back then. And 95 days to harvest? Not bad at all, the Sour D I'm running now will take a week+ longer than that, if I'm lucky about the same time.

I planted one or two seeds (hz19sk) years ago when I was running my "150w HPS medical closet grow", but any I planted turned out male, really stretchy and crazy thin stems, so I gave up on it with my small HPS light... Now I have a LED, so I might need to try out some nice, Long Flowering, sativas.

again :thank you: for the great report and also jogging my memory that I still have these gems laying around :tiphat:
 

Dirt Life

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Hey, Ahzden! Thanks for the kind words! I was expecting a tall stretch with my plant too, but got an average skunk stretch, so in that sense, kind of threw me off a bit, pretty much the exact opposite of what happened with yours. Its all good though. :D Anyways, good luck with the rest of your Hz/Sk seeds, I hope you find some winners, and I'm glad you enjoyed the report. :)
 
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lemongrove

Nice report ManyClouds. I had very good luck with Nirvana's Chrystal. I wouldn't be afraid to try any of thier strains.
 
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lemongrove

ManyClouds do you think their current Haze #1 would be similar to the strain you grew?
 

Dirt Life

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lemongrove said:
ManyClouds do you think their current Haze #1 would be similar to the strain you grew?

Hey, lemongrove! Well, I can't tell you one way or the other when it comes to that specific haze line from Nirvana, as I've never grown it, but, going by the description alone, it sounds very nice. I'm pretty sure this is the Haze line that yoss flowered out (same line that's also sold by the Sativa Seedbank), and his thread on it would probably have more info for you on that line. The flowering time that's listed is about the same as the Hz/Sk that I grew, but mine is a haze hybrid, and I'm not sure if the Haze 1 is a pure haze or not. IMHO really, it definately couldn't hurt to try it. Just keep in mind on how a haze grows and prep for it, and you should be golden! :)

Here's a couple of pics of the Hz/Sk after a little over a couple months cure. As you can see, she pretty much has turned to a darker tan color, almost a "wood" color.

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The high is basically the same, except it lasts a bit longer, but still a shorter duration, mellower, very happy high. I also just want to clarify, when I say it's a short duration high, I mean the euphoric head blast is short duration, the after effects last quite some time. You're all "floaty" for a good couple of hours, but the peak goes fast. The smell has changed, though. It lost all of the earthy notes, and the sweet pine took over. It's all sweet piney buds, now.

Also, IMVHO, judging by how the calyxes are, the smells, the high, I'm leaning towards the original Haze #19 selection being a very Columbian leaning selection rather than heavy Thai. Everything I've read about the highs of certain Columbian lines, to the way they grow, to what they smell like lead me to come to this conclusion. Take a look at CBG's Columbian Mangobiche line, look at the pics (giant speartip calyxes), look at kaikis description of the high... lots of parallels. Thais... not so much. They seem to be more trippy, speedy, and longer lasting.

One other thing, I've noticed a lot of hybrids that have Columbian lines in them tend to have a lot of pine, menthol, and grape aromas. Again... lots of similarities. These are all just opinions I have, so please take them with a grain of salt. Anyways, I'm planning on throwing some Super Star pollen at her as soon as I flower out another Hz/Sk and the SS male, and in a month or two, I plan on doing a seed buy which includes two packs of Mangobiche (want to find a nice male or more). I also want to get a pack of their Punta Rojo, and Aces Double Thai if I can afford it. :)
 

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