FULVIC ACID

[alpinegrower]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC8UmejtXZk

impressive , isnt it ?

i did the same experiment with the tea bag + water and the tea bag + an grandma fulvic (20 ml) but there wasnt any difference the water just stayed clear
The AN Fulvic also seems to be only water.... its about 0,5 % fulvics and the rest water.
It would be intresting to see how the AN Humic (its about 2 % humics) or other humic / fulvic products would perform , maybe someone could do the experiment at a given dosage to see the effect of different products

 

[Buds Bundy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC8UmejtXZk

impressive , isnt it ?

i did the same experiment with the tea bag + water and the tea bag + an grandma fulvic (20 ml) but there wasnt any difference the water just stayed clear
The AN Fulvic also seems to be only water.... its about 0,5 % fulvics and the rest water.
It would be intresting to see how the AN Humic (its about 2 % humics) or other humic / fulvic products would perform , maybe someone could do the experiment at a given dosage to see the effect of different products

Check out Fulvic and Humic from Micromaxx http://micromaxx.ca Give buddy and call and he'll break it down for you, everything you need to know about F/H

 

[Buds Bundy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC8UmejtXZk

impressive , isnt it ?

i did the same experiment with the tea bag + water and the tea bag + an grandma fulvic (20 ml) but there wasnt any difference the water just stayed clear
The AN Fulvic also seems to be only water.... its about 0,5 % fulvics and the rest water.
It would be intresting to see how the AN Humic (its about 2 % humics) or other humic / fulvic products would perform , maybe someone could do the experiment at a given dosage to see the effect of different products

Hmm let me look more into this test, love breaking down people products like that. I had some angy people before of products tests I've done which I had on my youtube channel, sorry removed the channel a few years back.

 

[habeeb]

all I know is the guy at GHE ( william texier ) said if he could use one supplement, it would be fulvic. I'm sure he's seen results using it then.. also he said he uses fulvic for cloning.


I heard a good brand was ful-power.. I went to check up on it, and interesting info:

"By the Verplogh and Brandvold method Ful-Power fulvic measures 8%. By the Classical Method the same fulvic measures .015%. "



so I guess we kinda need to know the other companies methods for comparing..






I don't think you can compare humics ( fulvic falls under this, but were talking humic humic... ), as there all "black", well everyone I've seen is. I guess if you did it with the test, we need to try it with another brand to see if we can get the result on the video..

 

[alpinegrower]

an eperiment would be also intresting with diamond nectar . Diamond nectar is humics with a very little fraction of fulvics if you read the label...(0.01 %) but the overall percentage of humics is higher in diamond nectar than in AN F1 (just 0,4 % pure fulvics). i think diamond nectar should be more like AN H2 ?!

as far as i understood some products are also more acidic and do lower the ph more , are these the more black products ? ican use AN fulvic at the tripple concentration recommended and it will maybe change then the ph MAX from 6,2 to 6,1
AN F1 looks like water with a yellow-golden tint and doesnt really affect ph



the product in the video is a mix of humics and fulvics but havent found any concentration infos

 

[RubeGoldberg]

there is no standardized method of measuring fulvic acid content and that's why the numbers are all over the place depending on brand.

The one thing that can pretty much be guaranteed though, is if a company lists a fulvic % instead of a humic % on their fulvic acid, they're bullshit artists.

 

[habeeb]

an eperiment would be also intresting with diamond nectar . Diamond nectar is humics with a very little fraction of fulvics if you read the label...(0.01 %) but the overall percentage of humics is higher in diamond nectar than in AN F1 (just 0,4 % pure fulvics). i think diamond nectar should be more like AN H2 ?!

as far as i understood some products are also more acidic and do lower the ph more , are these the more black products ? ican use an fulvic at the tripple concentration recommended and it will maybe change then the ph MAX from 6,2 to 6,1
AN F1 looks like water with a yellow-golden tint and doesnt really affect ph



the product in the video is a mix of humics and fulvics but havent found any concentration infos

well, maybe this is why diamond nectar has that real orange color tint to it, as it has humics in it also..

I kinda wonder then what AN rare earth looks like, as I think it has both???

same with my ful-power. it was a very soft light yellow color. not sure on the pH of it, didn't check

there is no standardized method of measuring fulvic acid content and that's why the numbers are all over the place depending on brand.

The one thing that can pretty much be guaranteed though, is if a company lists a fulvic % instead of a humic % on their fulvic acid, they're bullshit artists.

well as I read yesterday, there's two methods of testing fulvic. so there is a couple possibilities. they chose the higher percentage test, and are using a low amount of fulvic, like really low, or there using the test that gives us a low number. or there using the high amount test and marking it as that.. I guess the confusion would be in the low amount test vs. the high test and them diluting it very badly..

not sure I can believe you on this, as it is possible to separate humic and fulvic acids.. I've read it's isolated by cold water extraction, or using acid

I don't think you can "fake" a fulvic acid. I guess you could color water with a yellow dye, but anyone putting something in a bottle, I'm sure is not feeding us pure water. as I said, I think leaving humic behind would tinge the water a color off from yellow to a more brown hue..

I do know there is different qualities, and different levels of heavy metals in methods / extractions / sources.


I am no master of fulvic, and used it once. I do know the best smelling pot ( cured / 1 year cure ) came from using the fulvic, but it might have been the nutrient also ( canna bio ). one or both i cannot say what it came from, and it's why fulvic still interests me. but I would guess it came from the canna..

also wanting to learn though, or be corrected



i sent an email to someone for testing info.. I wouldn't mind testing some products if there not a crazy amount for a test.

 

[jammie]

all I know is the guy at GHE ( william texier ) said if he could use one supplement, it would be fulvic. I'm sure he's seen results using it then.. also he said he uses fulvic for cloning.


I heard a good brand was ful-power.. I went to check up on it, and interesting info:

"By the Verplogh and Brandvold method Ful-Power fulvic measures 8%. By the Classical Method the same fulvic measures .015%. "



so I guess we kinda need to know the other companies methods for comparing..






I don't think you can compare humics ( fulvic falls under this, but were talking humic humic... ), as there all "black", well everyone I've seen is. I guess if you did it with the test, we need to try it with another brand to see if we can get the result on the video..

i used ful-power this grow in my 5 gallon dwc buckets. started about half way through a 6ish week veg. fulvic acids claim to fame is that it chelates other nutrients, which means they can be absorbed over a wider ph range and that they contain all the micro nutrients and amino acids. i didn't do a control study but my leaves looked allot healthier and i never had any problems with lockout. BUT- after final chop, i can't say that there was any significant yield difference. at $50 plus shipping, i can't say it was worth it

 

[jammie]

here's some good info. the section on fulvic acid is 3/4 of the way down:http://www.manicbotanix.com/hydroponic-grow-guide/beneficial-additives-in-hydroponics.html

 

[Buds Bundy]

This is why I posted the Micro Maxx site. Give the guy a call he'll break down the manufacturing process to you and exactly how the FA and HA work. Thats an actual agricultural company and not a "retail hydroponic" industry company.

 

[guerilllataktic]

i have a product that is 40 percent fulvic acid 40 percent humic acid, i blend my own biocatlyst product with fulvic acid, humicacid ,20 different L-amino acids, yucca extract, and a couple of proprietary ingredients, super cheap and potent. if anyone wants to try it pm me for more info

 

[scai]

Humic and fulvic acids have been part of my grow from the beginning.
Best tip that I ever had, was when people wrote, that they are essential when you take cuttings and when you try to germinate stubborn seeds
Never had any failure with cuttings after putting them for 24h water which contains aloe, humic/fulvic acids ans seaweed.

 

[guerilllataktic]

check out kelp4less.com// theyhave amazing products cheap/ i believe theyare from idaho, i get my fulvic from them and mix a concentrate, the shit works miracles

 

[habeeb]

Best tip that I ever had, was when people wrote, that they are essential when you take cuttings and when you try to germinate stubborn seeds
Never had any failure with cuttings after putting them for 24h water which contains aloe, humic/fulvic acids ans seaweed.

well how do you know if it was the humic / fulvic / seaweed / aloe ?


I have never tried with "stimulants" , but I know the dude at GHE ( william texier ) says to use fulvic in cuttings ..

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

I read somewhere that the fulvic end of the humates has a lower molecular weight than the humic end does. From what they were saying the lower molecular weight goes hand in hand with the lighter color.

Can't find the link. It could be bullshit, but it would be the only way to tell anything at all with your eyes. I'm also pretty sure there are plenty of colorants sold at the grow store too