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Anyone used the BioWave ?
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mtlakehydro
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I have certainly spent a lot of time researching this product. And I also spent the time to post my findings. All to have a jerk like you to comment such rude statements about me. You don't know me or how much time I spent researching anything. Sorry I got you so bent.
Peace
mtlakehydro
Member
Foomar don't become a psychic because your reading of me having no real knowledge of science was right I don't but Im doing pretty good . How about you Scientist Foomar what scientific knowledge do you have that makes you soo much better than me. Please enlighten me Foomie.
You should organise your research skills better, simply entering Biowave scam/fraud/fake into google should have set the alarm bells ringing , but you cannot seem to tell the difference between science and the most obvious fraud , failing even to see the glareing discrepancies on their own site.
A check on the owner reveals a trail of such pseudo science scams in a moment , there is no excuse for falling for this stuff with the facts so readily to hand.
A check on the owner reveals a trail of such pseudo science scams in a moment , there is no excuse for falling for this stuff with the facts so readily to hand.
mtlakehydro
Member
Darn Foomar my apologies , I jus peeked at your albums. Your right again I did fall for that bullshit. I guess I really wanted it to work because of the implications they would have for farmers everywhere or mabey it was all that profit. Either way I should have atleast tried the dam thingamagigy before I would support its scientific validity. Again my sincere apologies for discrediting you, pictures worth a thousand words. Nice !
Dont be fooled by a few decent pics and a big green bar , some of the most notorious mentalists on the forum have similar.
Haveing hard science beaten into me at school and a decade spent designing turbine blades ect , hence a good knowledge of cavitation , this was obviousy not kosher for several reasons.
If i came over as a jerk that was not my intent , and respect for posting a retraction when most would have simply walked away.
Haveing hard science beaten into me at school and a decade spent designing turbine blades ect , hence a good knowledge of cavitation , this was obviousy not kosher for several reasons.
If i came over as a jerk that was not my intent , and respect for posting a retraction when most would have simply walked away.
OGShush
Member
Like I was trying to explain before this type of side by side isn't quite legit because it's still subject to biases of the person conducting the study. The best way to get a true sense of whether or not this works is to make sure the person conducting the grow has no idea which grow has a biowave and which one doesn't.
I fucking hate watching youtube videos some I'm not familiar with DutchTouch, but I firmly believe that people who are wont to youtube are of the lowest calibre of academic intelligence. I got a buddy thinks xylem is the stuff they put in chewing gum and phloem is the stuff on top of a root beer float, watches youtube videos all day long.
I agree with the guy saying he probably got them for free on a 100k grow shop order. Wouldn't surprise me in the bit. I go in and spend a hundred or so and get a promo lighter. My buddy goes and drops a few grand we get t-shirts, magazines and nutrient samples. The guy at the local shop would probably name his first born child after you if you dropped 100k and might even consider letting you father it depending on how he feels about his wife.
real ting- hell yeah man, have you read an advanced nutrients promo rant? I could do a much more readable rant that sounds way more scientific. People are going to be ripped off no matter what, the least I can do is provide some quality prose and make a few bucks while I'm at it. I never got a PM though
so I guess it's good I didn't quit my day job.
mtlakehydro
Member
Like I was trying to explain before this type of side by side isn't quite legit because it's still subject to biases of the person conducting the study. The best way to get a true sense of whether or not this works is to make sure the person conducting the grow has no idea which grow has a biowave and which one doesn't.
I fucking hate watching youtube videos some I'm not familiar with DutchTouch, but I firmly believe that people who are wont to youtube are of the lowest calibre of academic intelligence. I got a buddy thinks xylem is the stuff they put in chewing gum and phloem is the stuff on top of a root beer float, watches youtube videos all day long.
I agree with the guy saying he probably got them for free on a 100k grow shop order. Wouldn't surprise me in the bit. I go in and spend a hundred or so and get a promo lighter. My buddy goes and drops a few grand we get t-shirts, magazines and nutrient samples. The guy at the local shop would probably name his first born child after you if you dropped 100k and might even consider letting you father it depending on how he feels about his wife.
real ting- hell yeah man, have you read an advanced nutrients promo rant? I could do a much more readable rant that sounds way more scientific. People are going to be ripped off no matter what, the least I can do is provide some quality prose and make a few bucks while I'm at it. I never got a PM though
I really couldn't figure out how to PM you.
Fresh Start
Active member
I managed to grab one of these on a screaming deal. So far the results are impressive with the plants directly next to the machine. I have several identical strains not directly surrounding the machine and they are not as prolific- but they also look incredible. I'm on a good swing with my room right now though and I have been hard at work to ensure my harvest is going as planned so there are many reasons why my plants look good. It was just good timing for the deal to pass me by. That being said I have ppm tested the runoff from the plants directly surrounding the machine and they are using more of the nutrient salts than other plants in the room- closer plants have runoff @ 800-880 while other plants farther away from the biowave runoff closer to 900-1040 ( I run a simple salt based formula and strive for a 1000 ppm in the pots of pure coco) The other plants in the room are close enough to be positively affected by it but it seems that the closer the better in plant health. The sound the biowave makes is very audible.
If I did not receive a good deal on the machine I'm not sure it would be worth it quite yet. It is still very early for me to say I'm convinced of it's capabilities but there is a positive difference that I can see. I'm still in week 1 of flower so I by the end of my run I will know more.
If I did not receive a good deal on the machine I'm not sure it would be worth it quite yet. It is still very early for me to say I'm convinced of it's capabilities but there is a positive difference that I can see. I'm still in week 1 of flower so I by the end of my run I will know more.
tested four biowave minis for a couple months on ~90 lights.
all 4 are sitting in storage. they look cool, but that's about it.
don't waste your money.
all 4 are sitting in storage. they look cool, but that's about it.
don't waste your money.
Fresh Start
Active member
Sounds like you have lots of experience underneath all those lights.
Care to share any detailed info about how your harvest was not affected by the machine? Such as how you used it, what your usual numbers are (can be as detailed as you like), ppm dosages in Co2 or nutrient salts changes?
I am not sure exactly what the BIOWAVE does, seems its a frequency thing to dialate the stoma of a plant. Not sure but my guess..... I do know that dutch touch uses them here at IC mag in his rooms. He maybe able to give you some hard info on them since he uses them in his ops. He is not a small guy in the game at all, so maybe he can give you real advice on them.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=251040
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=251040
Nothing...it's the hydroponic equivalent of new age bollocks. The homeopathy of the growroom.
nope no detailed info. no fluctuations in anything, nothing vegged faster. nothing yielded more. no quality difference, no reduction in pests. it just did nothing in all situations. 600s, 1000s, co2 at 1500, 1100 no co2... low ppm diets high ppm diets, all chems, chem + organics, soil... lotsa situtions not that it matters.
they look cool, and bump into your head a lot.
my plants like heavy metal. lol
Actually Mythbusters did a test, seeing what kind of music plants like, and the heavy metal toms came out best if I remember right.
sweetleaf from ozzie makes em happy as can be lol. ya I saw the mythbusters show
