ALL ABOUT BONSAI MOMS/MUMS

[dansbuds]

I wish i had seen this a year ago I'm now cloning all my moms ditching them & starting all new bonzi moms .

 

[Hydro-Soil]

The point I am trying to make with this molecular biology spiel is that as an organism lives and is exposed to radiation or by means of cell replication is going to accumulate mutations in its genome therefore mothers can change based on the fact that they are not an exception to radiation and the accumulation of mutation within the genome.

Yes... and if you take 50% more cuttings than you need and select only the best... you can keep genetics for 20+ years like a lot of breeders have done.

The 'genetic mutation' from radiation in the environment is negligible and so far, hasn't presented a problem. So.. it's nothing to worry about.

Stay Safe!

 

[Smurfette4:21]

Found it! This is one of the best threads on IC IMO.

 

[Mr Jay]

I have read some of the original posts in this thread and one of the main misconceptions I want to clear up is concerning degradation of quality and stability of clones from reasonably older mothers (>5yrs).
Let us begin by defining degradation. I define degradation as a mutation that occurs to produce a non-functional gene product that disrupt yields, quality, immune response, etc. These mutations are commonly known as non-sense mutations. I will not go into the genetics behind mutations and how they lead to a nonfunctional protein. Mutations occur and most of the time are repaired by DNA repair enzymes that are constantly proofreading the genome for changes in the reading frame, dimerization of nucleotides, nucleotide exchanges, etc. that disrupt the structure and function of the polypeptide(protein) produced by the gene. These mutations are innevitable because all life and DNA is exposed to radiation and all organisms must replicate their genetic material which is also a risky process where mistakes are commonly made.
The point I am trying to make with this molecular biology spiel is that as an organism lives and is exposed to radiation or by means of cell replication is going to accumulate mutations in its genome therefore mothers can change based on the fact that they are not an exception to radiation and the accumulation of mutation within the genome.

I understand what you're saying, but cannabis is not TMNT. The slight stop codon damage a plant may experience is not really going to affect the genetics much, if they even experience it. While all living things are exposed to and experience radiation/mutation the amount of exposure a pampered indoor mom gets is minimal to nill.

I've even heard that cells can only divide so many times for an organism in a lifetime, yet there are stands of pines in Australia that reproduce primarily from clone and 200+ acres of pine can be clones of the same tree from 5,000 + years ago. I doubt cannabis has the same staying properties, but I'm willing to bet it goes past five years.

Now, I'm not saying you're wrong. I agree mutation can happen the lifetime of an organism and not just from reproduction, I just think the sky is not falling.

 

[Mr.Ogfin]

Good info and good thread. Helpped a lot.

 

[Highsenburg831]

Great thread!

 

[Twist1]

Great info - Thanks for the thread.

 

[gurutouch]

howww!!!!
really cool guys...
bom shankar

 

[Mr Jay]

Here's an example of how Autos can be used in conjunction with a photo vege cab.

Those four plants up front are autos being run their whole life in 32 oz cups as part of a competition on another site. The two on the left are a personal cross of MI5 x Bad Betty and the two on the right are chronic ryders... Wait, what's that peeking out from behind them?

Why it's five fresh bonsai moms!

These cuts were all taken from my last photo grow where I flowered out a bunch of new genetics from seeds and took a clone of each just in case. Some of these will be released into the wild while others will be kept for future grows.

 

[Chillb]

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[zamzia]

Chillb - What's the difference between T5 and T8 please? Thanks

 

[Javadog]

I use T-8s. They are identical to the T-5s except that they have
a smaller diameter. (i.e. T-8s are "slimmer")

JD

 

[Mr Jay]

Uhh, not to be nit picky but that's wrong. T8 bulbs are much fatter than skinny little T-5 but they're skinnier than fat ol T-12s

 

[Javadog]

Shit....well, I have "the skinny ones"....

I also thought that the "standard size", as seen at school and work, is the T-5.

Other than that, I am lost.

L8R

JD

P.S. Yup....I am full of it. See here

I think that I am using T-8s and that T-12s are the standard here.

....but check me on this!!! :0)

 

[Chillb]

I don't know the exact specifics but t5 bulbs are skinnier and put out the same if not more lumens than a matching t8 bulb, I believe they use a bit less energy also? I just grabbed what I located for free, if I had a choice and was buying I'd go with T5's.

 

[zamzia]

Thank you both, and Javadog for the linky

 

[UrbanGuerilla]

awesome article. makes things alot easier for everyone especially the small grower. how many bonsai moms could fit in a 11"W x 12"L space? i would like to keep 2 moms atleast

 

[tazz11]

you do know there is a easier way to make a bonsai ?

I was one of the first to bonsai a cannabis

all you need to do is cut 1/2 deep slits in the rim of the planter and tie your braches off and pull the strings into the slits

simple and easy ... I did a skunk #1 and it was a true Bonsai

the good thing about this way . is your can tighten or loosen the strings as you want... works great ...

when you want it too flower remove the strings

 

[#1cheesebuds]

Hey my NL 5 x Haze Bonsai Mum (Sensi Seeds)..
As somebody mentioned this is revenged, those make GREAT Bonsai Mums as you can see..lots of Shoots!

wow this is a great one. I love growing bonsai.

 

[#1cheesebuds]

Heres two plants. they are both from the outdoors garden earlier this summer. first one is a kickass bonsai book every gardener should get.
second one is a reveging sativa lady.
third one is a pepper plant called goats weed. This one had furry leafs and hot ass purple peppers. this one is in a 4x4 inch pot. I just trim it every so often.