you mean as another 1000W lamp? Slightly less, they give more light. The ballasts dissipate very little heat and that's all convection heat that will rise (about 60W)
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GAVITA Pro 1000 DE
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I have personally never used a mover, I don't like hot moving lights in my setup, but as for fan size indeed there are many factors that influence the required capacity, one of the most important is the knowledge of the installer
- stretch your ducting
- NO corners or use metal shallow corners
- Oversize your ducting, never go smaller anywhere than your filter/fan flange size (which should be matched)
- It's always a good idea to go bigger for your exhaust
- Calculate: anything over 7m/s will make lots of noise.
brandnewbie
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so is it better to design the room around the light?
shermanitor007
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A question for you wazzup, read earlier in the thread that you recommend to run the lamp at full power for 100 hours prior to use if you plan to run it at a lower strength. Did you mean 100 consecutive hours or one hundred hours total in 12/12?
yes, it is better to design the room around the lights if you know what you can have, specifically with small rooms.
It don't need to be consecutive hours for the burn-in, 9x12 hrs is fine!
One note for 1000W DE novices: you may see black banding around the burners when you get a new lamp right out of the box. This is because every lamp, before it it is packed, gets a safety and operation test. After the safety test the lamp is switched on for a few seconds to check that it is starting, which causes these black bands. After a few hours of burning they will have vanished.
It don't need to be consecutive hours for the burn-in, 9x12 hrs is fine!
One note for 1000W DE novices: you may see black banding around the burners when you get a new lamp right out of the box. This is because every lamp, before it it is packed, gets a safety and operation test. After the safety test the lamp is switched on for a few seconds to check that it is starting, which causes these black bands. After a few hours of burning they will have vanished.
fuzzy dunlop
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Anyone figure out the exact BTU load of this bulb/ballast combo yet?
oscarthegrouch
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Just got the new room finished and ran the pro 1000w for the first time. I'm already pleased with it and I haven't even put plants under it yet. Just unboxing it you can tell the quality of it. My lumateks are going to make nice paper weights now...
caliswangn
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hey whazzup, i just bought 16 gavitas to put up in a location roughly 40x16. I was thinking 2 strings of 8 over 4x4 ID tables. Does that sound about right? any and all measurements you can give me for mounting the lamps would be great too thank you. looking forward to these new lamps
caliswangn
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oops sorry lol 12.1 x 4.8 x 3 are my metric room dimensions
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WOW !
Ive used alot of spectrums and i've NEVER seen growth like this... Not just speed or amount, but the intangibles ie. growth pattern, structure, terpitine profiles,gpw, resin, harvest time frame all seriously different.....
Then theres physical differences, the quality, the weight, the light spread and heat loss, then you get to the bulbs and way less maintenance, bringing this made in Netherlands piece (not china like my quantums and galaxies ect...) to you for less $$$$$. Amazing. I cant believe the value. Thank you. Ive converted my grow shop over and I don't think they'll sell a regular hps system again...Lol.
I Will report back after harvest but having strains that i've run for years and i know them very well. Seeing things that I never seen with them before, so different there almost acting like a different strains. Really excited about this harvest.
If your a newb reading this it is NOT hype. Go for the gravita.
Ive used alot of spectrums and i've NEVER seen growth like this... Not just speed or amount, but the intangibles ie. growth pattern, structure, terpitine profiles,gpw, resin, harvest time frame all seriously different.....
Then theres physical differences, the quality, the weight, the light spread and heat loss, then you get to the bulbs and way less maintenance, bringing this made in Netherlands piece (not china like my quantums and galaxies ect...) to you for less $$$$$. Amazing. I cant believe the value. Thank you. Ive converted my grow shop over and I don't think they'll sell a regular hps system again...Lol.
I Will report back after harvest but having strains that i've run for years and i know them very well. Seeing things that I never seen with them before, so different there almost acting like a different strains. Really excited about this harvest.
If your a newb reading this it is NOT hype. Go for the gravita.
caliswangn
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ok nevermind room dimensions what dimensions would u recommend for 16 lamps?
I just picked up 2 systems... One Gavita remote with Sunlight supply DE reflector. 1
E-Papillon 1000w 400v same bulb all in one unit. can't wait to get them set up..Are yours adjustable up/down?
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E-Papillon 1000w 400v same bulb all in one unit. can't wait to get them set up..Are yours adjustable up/down?
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You mean using an easy roller or light hanger? Any reflector or fixture is. Why do you want to combine a wide reflector and a deep reflector? Wide reflectors are usually used for larger surfaces and lower intensities and cause much more wall losses while having a less deep penetration.
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Hey wazzup!!!,
I know you know more then me about this light and all its specs..... My strains no way. I'm sure the increased micromoles m2 has an vastly increased effect. But I have run as much or close in other spaces. Its the spectrum. Horti's newer mh blue bulb had a similar effect when trying to incorporate it... But, not nearly as dramatic and not nearly as widespread. I mean as in affecting all my strains. Different terps and smells. More like od. I will report back after harvest as results are still inconclusive.
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Hey wazzup!!!,
I know you know more then me about this light and all its specs..... My strains no way
. I'm sure the increased micromoles m2 has an vastly increased effect. But I have run as much or close in other spaces. Its the spectrum. Horti's newer mh blue bulb had a similar effect when trying to incorporate it... But, not nearly as dramatic and not nearly as widespread. I mean as in affecting all my strains. Different terps and smells. More like od. I will report back after harvest as results are still inconclusive.
Not sure whom you're asking?? Im asking because I see other dont have there Gavitas movable they are stationary.. I was going to have the EP on ratchet hangers. The gavita on the Sunlight reflector wont be movable. I purchased this reflector for the increased area. The size is 3x larger then the gavita reflector. This should add to the Yield and a larger area foot print then the normal refector. I do have a PAR Meter that I will use test both systems.
I did not buy the Gavita all in one.. I bought the Sunlight supply Agrotech Magnum Double Ended Reflector with the Gavita remote Ballast......Im only using 1 refector thats this one
Made specifically for High Voltage Double Ended K12x30 base 1000w HPS horticulture lamp. Unique T32.5 Double Ended lamp construction allows for maximum optical efficiency and improved ignition behavior (horizontal operation only). Improved PAR value and lumen/PAR maintenance (up to 90% PAR maintenance at 10k hr). Full spectrum lamp with a focus on the red component for increased photosynthetic response. Specifically designed for use with Ultra High Frequency electronic ballasts. Double Ended lamp specific locking sockets ensure optimal lamp placement and support in the reflector. 95% reflective German aluminum offers excellent reflectivity and diffusion. Comes unassembled and easily sets up in minutes. New industry first detachable 15' lamp cord at the reflector and at the ballast. Does not accept glass.
I did not buy the Gavita all in one.. I bought the Sunlight supply Agrotech Magnum Double Ended Reflector with the Gavita remote Ballast......Im only using 1 refector thats this one
Made specifically for High Voltage Double Ended K12x30 base 1000w HPS horticulture lamp. Unique T32.5 Double Ended lamp construction allows for maximum optical efficiency and improved ignition behavior (horizontal operation only). Improved PAR value and lumen/PAR maintenance (up to 90% PAR maintenance at 10k hr). Full spectrum lamp with a focus on the red component for increased photosynthetic response. Specifically designed for use with Ultra High Frequency electronic ballasts. Double Ended lamp specific locking sockets ensure optimal lamp placement and support in the reflector. 95% reflective German aluminum offers excellent reflectivity and diffusion. Comes unassembled and easily sets up in minutes. New industry first detachable 15' lamp cord at the reflector and at the ballast. Does not accept glass.
hmm.. spreading the light over a larger area doesn't give you more light. It also doesn't add to the yield. Uniform high ppfd does. The only purpose of a reflector is to efficiently bring light from the lamp to the crop. Now I know that you guys love big reflectors, but that will not give you the penetration the Gavita reflector will give you. 95% efficient Miro aluminum does not tell you the whole story about the efficiency of the reflector either.
If you look closer at the HortiStar HR96 reflector you will see that the side reflectors reflect the light under a very high angle to the other side of the reflector, enabling a much better penetration, specifically in a multi-light room. The sun is not always straight above you, it shines at angles.
If you mean is the ballast adjustable in output then i misunderstood your question: yes it is. 600-1150. See the specs in the catalog and on the website.
If you look closer at the HortiStar HR96 reflector you will see that the side reflectors reflect the light under a very high angle to the other side of the reflector, enabling a much better penetration, specifically in a multi-light room. The sun is not always straight above you, it shines at angles.
If you mean is the ballast adjustable in output then i misunderstood your question: yes it is. 600-1150. See the specs in the catalog and on the website.
HenDokuYaku
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Hey Whazzup,
Thanks for your information. I love my Gavita lights. I've read many times where you say you don't talk about your competitors, but seen you vary on that. In fact, I just read a note you posted about DNA this morning.
So, if you don't mind. Could you please tell us the differences between Gavita's HR96 reflector and Philips (E-papillon) reflector. Both of the systems use the 400v DE Philips Greenpower bulb. The ballasts also seem very similar by description.
Please tell us the positives and negatives of both of the reflectors and how we can discern some difference besides ppf.
Thanks very much. Also, why do you think that Philips chose to compete with you folks while seemingly working in partnership with you as well. I know these types of relationships are not uncommon in the business world. I'm just curious of your take on it.
Thanks for your information. I love my Gavita lights. I've read many times where you say you don't talk about your competitors, but seen you vary on that. In fact, I just read a note you posted about DNA this morning.
So, if you don't mind. Could you please tell us the differences between Gavita's HR96 reflector and Philips (E-papillon) reflector. Both of the systems use the 400v DE Philips Greenpower bulb. The ballasts also seem very similar by description.
Please tell us the positives and negatives of both of the reflectors and how we can discern some difference besides ppf.
Thanks very much. Also, why do you think that Philips chose to compete with you folks while seemingly working in partnership with you as well. I know these types of relationships are not uncommon in the business world. I'm just curious of your take on it.
I have a PAR meter I will post numbers on it compared to the E-papillon and Gavita. We tried to get the Optipar+ but there discontinued...I have a remote gavita ballast and just to let you know I hate large reflectors never used one in fact I have never used any reflector. I have been a vertical grower.. Im now doing some tests for me and others with this reflector and the Gavita reflector we shall see which provides more par. My hydro store also wants these numbers.. This has always been a test..I guess you didn't know that.. Also Sunlight supply has another one that is much smaller looks like this. we are also testing this one as well. The numbers will tell the truth ... No I meant do you have your Gavita light adjustable up/down. Some people that are using the Gavita dont they have it set not adjustable. Yes im aware they are dimmable. I do disagree about the yield..I can fit more plants under that reflector. more plants alwys give more yield IMO. This is why we are doing all t hese tests. We will use the best reflector weather its from Gavita or not..
Made specifically for double ended 1000 watt HPS horticulture lamps (not included). Unique double ended construction allows for maximum optical efficiency and uniformity. Full spectrum DE lamps used in this fixture focus on the red component for increased photosynthetic response. They offer improved PAR values and increased PAR/lumen maintenance (up to 90% PAR at 10,000 hours of operation). The AC/DE’s patent pending design allows removal of heat generated by the lamp without cooling the lamp below proper operating temperature. 95% reflective textured German aluminum interior with 98% reflective corner inserts offer excellent uniformity, output and diffusion. Galvanized steel housing with durable powder coated finish.‘ Manufactured with exacting standards and double neoprene gaskets for an air tight seal.’ Hinged glass makes changing lamp and cleaning glass easy.“ Detachable 15’ lamp cord at the reflector and at ballast. 5 year warranty.
Made specifically for double ended 1000 watt HPS horticulture lamps (not included). Unique double ended construction allows for maximum optical efficiency and uniformity. Full spectrum DE lamps used in this fixture focus on the red component for increased photosynthetic response. They offer improved PAR values and increased PAR/lumen maintenance (up to 90% PAR at 10,000 hours of operation). The AC/DE’s patent pending design allows removal of heat generated by the lamp without cooling the lamp below proper operating temperature. 95% reflective textured German aluminum interior with 98% reflective corner inserts offer excellent uniformity, output and diffusion. Galvanized steel housing with durable powder coated finish.‘ Manufactured with exacting standards and double neoprene gaskets for an air tight seal.’ Hinged glass makes changing lamp and cleaning glass easy.“ Detachable 15’ lamp cord at the reflector and at ballast. 5 year warranty.
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