Recent Serious Seeds AK-47 seedstock

[komodod]

That's funny, because I grew just one pack of AK-47 and got a pheno that was better than anything I've seen from Cali personally.



You do realize growing a dozen packs isn't a large enough test sample to make any kind of a conclusive analysis? You're going around as if 100 seeds makes you an expert. It's hilarious.

Where are you getting your AK-47 seeds from? Are they all from the same source?

so you grew one pack EVER in your life, a few years back when already said agreed the stock was still ok.. not as good as as the pre 2k, but still good.

then your gonna lecture me on that growing dozens of packs doesn't give me a right to come on and say that their new stock is shit.. which it is..

I never vouched to be an expert, but my opinion is relatively more accurate than yours when you grew one pack years ago.
100s grown versus one pack grown? and you know better than me????

and let me guess I need to grow out 1000 packs before I can come on here and say that they are shit? lmao

are they from the same source??? yes about half from a seedbank listed on serious seeds website as legit.. and the other source?? direct from serious seeds themselves! so lets not mention sources anymore its getting old.

the only hilarious thing in this thread is your lack or experience with with strain but the determination to defend it to the last!
the best thing you have smoked- better than any cali strain... is ak47!!

 

[komodod]

Thank you for describing the new packaging. Sounds like DNA's packaging.

finally accepted the packaging has changed! Hallelujah!!!

 

[Luxman]

I'm new here.

Is there some way I can filter out all of the dick-measuring and bickering and just read the facts and respectful opinions? Some of the users here are really helpful and respectful, but others don't seem prone to any meaningful discussion.

It's like being on the playground at primary school. Just sayin'.

 

[Scottish Research]

Look, if you all are so interested find some AK 47 and grow it out, and then let's see.

Let's try and be positive while staying on topic.

Thanks!

R.Fortune

 

[the hollow]

then your gonna lecture me on that growing dozens of packs doesn't give me a right to come on and say that their new stock is shit.. which it is..

Dozens of packs isn't enough of a test sample to make a scientifically sound analysis. I'm sorry, but as much as you think it is. it isn't.

I never vouched to be an expert, but my opinion is relatively more accurate than yours when you grew one pack years ago.

No it isn't. You never grew 100s of pre-2000 stock. You said yourself you only grew a couple of cuttings.

So, a couple of cuttings from pre-2000 stock is in no way a big enough test sample to conclusively compare genetics from that era to the present day. Stop acting like it is. You're an amateur for believing that it is.

100s grown versus one pack grown? and you know better than me????

I know which weed I smoke is better. A fact that doesn't have any relevance to the number of seeds grown. Good luck getting you to understand that, though. Ak-47 is better than OG. It only took one pack of seeds for me to determine that. No more were needed.

and let me guess I need to grow out 1000 packs before I can come on here and say that they are shit? lmao

No, you just need to have a better understanding of horticultural biology.

You also have to sample the other weed extensively that we're comparing the AK-47 to, i.e. OG. I don't see how a guy in the UK has that much experience smoking OG cuttings that are only available in Cali. You've stated that OG is so much better than AK-47. Yet, you don't even live in Cali.

How many times have you even smoked OG from Cali? I smoke it on a daily basis. It sounds to me like you're going on what people have said about OG and not your own personal experience with smoking it.

Just an observation.

are they from the same source??? yes about half from a seedbank listed on serious seeds website as legit.. and the other source?? direct from serious seeds themselves! so lets not mention sources anymore its getting old.

Settle down. Don't get your panties in a bundle. I only ask because Simon uses different growers to make his seeds for him. One source could be providing seeds from one of his seed producers while another source is providing seeds that were produced by a different grower. Perhaps, these guys are playing around with different mother plants. Might explain why some Ak-47 resembles the pre-2000 stock (like all of the stuff I grew) and some doesn't.

What growing methods did you use when growing AK-47?

the best thing you have smoked- better than any cali strain... is ak47!!

You would know, being in the UK and all, whether, or not AK-47 is "better than any cali strain."

I didn't know you guys get Cali OG in the UK.

lulz

 

[komodod]

Dozens of packs isn't enough of a test sample to make a scientifically sound analysis. I'm sorry, but as much as you think it is. it isn't.



No it isn't. You never grew 100s of pre-2000 stock. You said yourself you only grew a couple of cuttings.

So, a couple of cuttings from pre-2000 stock is in no way a big enough test sample to conclusively compare genetics from that era to the present day. Stop acting like it is. You're an amateur for believing that it is.


I know which weed I smoke is better. A fact that doesn't have any relevance to the number of seeds grown. Good luck getting you to understand that, though. Ak-47 is better than OG. It only took one pack of seeds for me to determine that. No more were needed.





No, you just need to have a better understanding of horticultural biology.

You also have to sample the other weed extensively that we're comparing the AK-47 to, i.e. OG. I don't see how a guy in the UK has that much experience smoking OG cuttings that are only available in Cali. You've stated that OG is so much better than AK-47. Yet, you don't even live in Cali.

How many times have you even smoked OG from Cali? I smoke it on a daily basis. It sounds to me like you're going on what people have said about OG and not your own personal experience with smoking it.

Just an observation.




Settle down. Don't get your panties in a bundle. I only ask because Simon uses different growers to make his seeds for him. One source could be providing seeds from one of his seed producers while another source is providing seeds that were produced by a different grower. Perhaps, these guys are playing around with different mother plants. Might explain why some Ak-47 resembles the pre-2000 stock (like all of the stuff I grew) and some doesn't.

What growing methods did you use when growing AK-47?




You would know, being in the UK and all, whether, or not AK-47 is "better than any cali strain."

I didn't know you guys get Cali OG in the UK.

lulz

look in the uk thread, we have about 70% of the usa clone onlys here already. your obviously unknowing about the uk but lets leave it at that. ive prob grown more elites than you and im not dick measuring its most likely true.

I see your replies to me and every time you seem to get more confused about what I have said. Its really quite strange when all you need to do is refer back to my posts.

I've never posted here to compear the pre 2k and new... purely talking about new stock, and that from a couple of years back. I only mentioned growing a few old cuts because you brought that up.

''Settle down. Don't get your panties in a bundle. I only ask because Simon uses different growers to make his seeds for him. One source could be providing seeds from one of his seed producers while another source is providing seeds that were produced by a different grower. Perhaps, these guys are playing around with different mother plants. Might explain why some Ak-47 resembles the pre-2000 stock (like all of the stuff I grew) and some doesn't. ''

the above statement I can believe is possibly the case. although I don't work for serious so I don't know.
the rest of your post is basically saying that we don't know and og in the uk..but ive already explained that.

 

[the hollow]

look in the uk thread, we have about 70% of the usa clone onlys here already.

Didn't some guy say earlier that all the original OG cuts had vanished? Now, 70% are in Europe?

It's amazing how bad information is on the internet. lulz

I've never posted here to compear the pre 2k and new... purely talking about new stock, and that from a couple of years back. I only mentioned growing a few old cuts because you brought that up.

We had a discussion earlier about AK-47 changing. How can you not remember that?

the above statement I can believe is possibly the case. although I don't work for serious so I don't know.

I read that in an interview with Simon.

 

[the hollow]

but I post a lot trying to help people if I can aswell.

lulz

You post a lot bashing quality breeders. Not just Serious. I don't know about helping anyone in the process.

 

[komodod]

Didn't some guy say earlier that all the original OG cuts had vanished? Now, 70% are in Europe?

It's amazing how bad information is on the internet. lulz

We had a discussion earlier about AK-47 changing. How can you not remember that?

I read that in an interview with Simon.

Ive never argued about og here. look in the European threads if you don't believe me... these ogs and other elites are spread far and wide.

we had a discussion about ak47 changing. that is all in past post on this thread. ive forgotten nothing here at all. its all here for you if you skip back a few pages. theres no point arguing with me when the proof is a few pages back in the thread.

Yeah you read an interview that's good.. he has given a few which you can find online, he gave a couple of radio ones too.
Im don't with this thread ive said what I need to say.

 

[bluntmassa]

I kinda doubt AK-47 has changed I haven't heard nothing from Simon not too mention it just won 2nd place cannabis cup either last year or year before. I've even seen an older post from simon asking if anyone had the cherry pheno which nobody has conveniently but yet on forums everyone and their brother that wants too look cool says they either have it or had it but yet Simon can't get one person to send him it I know if I had it I wouldn't hesitate gifting a cut too Simon. But I just really don't see how a breeder of his caliber would loose the parents to his most famous strain when Shantibaba has back-ups for all his parent plants in 5 different countries and mites aint a problem for him either cause he can take the whole plant and dip it in some pesticide can't remember exactly what he used.

Has anyone heard it has changed from the horses mouth? or yall just guessing and creating rumors like little school girls? Cause unless Simon said it himself its just a rumor with no weight and you'd be a fool to say otherwise even if you tried it years ago and tried it recently cause I'm sure years ago when you started growing you where easily impressed and if you only grown a cut well that could have been a 1 in 1,000 pheno you got I just don't buy it.

 

[SuperConductor]

Might depend on if you're growing fem or reg seeds as the fem thing is quite new with serious and I read they were produced somewhere new. AK has always been pretty variable pheno-wise and it's never been considered a heavy indica (used to win sativa cups regularly) though you can find phenos that are that way. I grew a few seeds in 07-08 and had some really nice looking phenos one of which was cherry. Smoke is strong to start with but tolerance build up is really fast. It would be good dealer weed but you'd need to hunt for a good medicinal plant.

Better not to reply to the obvious troll who doesn't have a clue what he's talking about and can't even play console games without also arguing on internet forums. Ignore list is there for a reason.

 

[bluntmassa]

Might depend on if you're growing fem or reg seeds as the fem thing is quite new with serious and I read they were produced somewhere new. AK has always been pretty variable pheno-wise and it's never been considered a heavy indica (used to win sativa cups regularly) though you can find phenos that are that way. I grew a few seeds in 07-08 and had some really nice looking phenos one of which was cherry. Smoke is strong to start with but tolerance build up is really fast. It would be good dealer weed but you'd need to hunt for a good medicinal plant.

Better not to reply to the obvious troll who doesn't have a clue what he's talking about and can't even play console games without also arguing on internet forums. Ignore list is there for a reason.

ya the fems will definitely be different from the original cause they can't use the male. but I hear people claim its not the same all over the internet but I've yet to hear of one that holds any weight. Its like they got nothing better to do then talk about their 1 pack from years ago wasn't as good as their 1 pack of recent stock but not putting into account this may just be a three way hybrid like Super Silver Haze that throws all kinds of phenos but you find the one its something truly special just like all the clone only strains you see theirs a reason their clone only cause its a 1 in 1,000 pheno that can't be duplicated in seed form. so the chances are you won't find the best AK in 1 pack and whats even worse I see is people who buy single fem seeds and then throw in their report like every seeds gonna be the same. lol, I find it best to take negative reports on strains with a grain of salt as long as I find some good grows of it I usually do pretty good even though people say its crap or it will herm I never have a problem but I've yet to buy a strain I didn't see a successful grow just got some AK got 5 ( regs) in veg now but every grow looks good too me that I've seen but then again everything I've grown looked good as hell even if I hated the taste.

 

[bluntmassa]

well according to Claude over in the serious seeds section Simon does still have the original parents of AK-47 . I beleive it its not even that old of a plant and look at red delicious apples there still kicking ass and aint nothing more than a cutting of the Original and all taste great.

 

[weshjo]

You can be sure AK47 parents aren't the same since pre2000...

Try to find a sativa pheno in the actual beans...Ak47 was a perfect combinason of sativa and indica few years ago...i would say even that sativa phenos were dominant...

Now the line was stabilized on indica phenos which is very good still one of my fave...

White russian is fire too..

 

[bluntmassa]

You can be sure AK47 parents aren't the same since pre2000...

Try to find a sativa pheno in the actual beans...Ak47 was a perfect combinason of sativa and indica few years ago...i would say even that sativa phenos were dominant...

Now the line was stabilized on indica phenos which is very good still one of my fave...

White russian is fire too..

I don't know man its not that old of a strain and theirs really no way to loose a quality cut if you know what your doing. you'd be a damn fool to loose your best your bread and butter strain no way in hell did simon loose his parents its not too hard keeping a cut alive for 20+ years.

on the other hand I have no Idea what they did to the feminized version that one has definitely changed from the regular version cause they can't use their proven male really they shouldn't even call it ak-47 and you know a bunch of beginners are buying the fems thinking its the same only feminized.

 

[the hollow]

Has anyone heard it has changed from the horses mouth? or yall just guessing and creating rumors like little school girls? Cause unless Simon said it himself its just a rumor with no weight and you'd be a fool to say otherwise even if you tried it years ago and tried it recently cause I'm sure years ago when you started growing you where easily impressed and if you only grown a cut well that could have been a 1 in 1,000 pheno you got I just don't buy it.

Simon has stated that he selected indica dominant phenos in the breeding process and used those for mothers. However, this doesn't change the overall genetics of the plant much.

A quote from Simon:

"Imagine for example that during your breeding proces you choose from each generation the shortest, fattest, mostly kick-ass plants for next parents all the time. Indeed, the % stays the same whatever plants you choose, but the plants effect and looks will be more what we call indica like. Such is the case more or less."

Simon never stated that he got rid of the original mother, though. People have claimed that Simon was raided and lost the original mother, but Simon never stated that. Simon believes the current stock is "better."

 

[Mr.Fastcast]

I've even seen an older post from simon asking if anyone had the cherry pheno which nobody has conveniently but yet on forums everyone and their brother that wants too look cool says they either have it or had it but yet Simon can't get one person to send him it I know if I had it I wouldn't hesitate gifting a cut too Simon.


I have seen Simon say that there was no cherry pheno people speak of,maybe that's why they all clam up.Just saying what I've read.

 

[AshitMyself]

I've even seen an older post from simon asking if anyone had the cherry pheno which nobody has conveniently but yet on forums everyone and their brother that wants too look cool says they either have it or had it but yet Simon can't get one person to send him it I know if I had it I wouldn't hesitate gifting a cut too Simon.


I have seen Simon say that there was no cherry pheno people speak of,maybe that's why they all clam up.Just saying what I've read.

i agree with this i would also send the cut too simon if i had it...

 

[bluntmassa]

Simon never stated that he got rid of the original mother, though. People have claimed that Simon was raided and lost the original mother, but Simon never stated that. Simon believes the current stock is "better."

ya a lot of people claim that on breeders loose their parents in raids but I imagine Simon would have back ups. Like Shantibaba claims he has back ups for all his parents in 5 different countries and a few continents. I'm sure Shantibaba isn't the only breder that does that. either way even if he did loose the original its still good as he won 2nd place cannabis cup and it tested just over 19% thc not too long ago.

 

[floralheart]

Had some in 2005, and had a cross recently.

AK47 for me is the most trippy psychoactive pot that there is.

It's the only pot that helps me visually hallucinate.

I saw a bunch of dragons flying about, that were actually a nest of bats that got spooked. So there was some foundation to seeing flying dragons.

It still gives me the most visuals. Just something about it.