Questions about post butane/hexane purge procedure

[nachoconqueso]

I need some clarification. Lets say I've purged in a flask and I'm left with a film at the bottom of the flask. Can I dissolve this film in ethanol and further separate lipids and waxes? Is it as simple as pipetting and discarding the top layer then evaporating the ethanol? So it seems then that this would also cause loss of terpenes, is this correct?

In my setup, it is a benefit to redissolve because I am vacuum filtering into a sidearm flask. This way I can pour the ethanol into a beaker and collect a very nice (hopefully) shatter.

Ok, I have one more question. If I kept the terpenes in would I be able to break apart the hardened film (hopefully shatter) at the bottom of the flask with a scoop so I could dump it out?

Damn this thread better have made sense. I'm pretty baked.

 

[MandalaDevi]

I need some clarification. Lets say I've purged in a flask and I'm left with a film at the bottom of the flask. Can I dissolve this film in ethanol and further separate lipids and waxes? Is it as simple as pipetting and discarding the top layer then evaporating the ethanol? So it seems then that this would also cause loss of terpenes, is this correct?

In my setup, it is a benefit to redissolve because I am vacuum filtering into a sidearm flask. This way I can pour the ethanol into a beaker and collect a very nice (hopefully) shatter.

Ok, I have one more question. If I kept the terpenes in would I be able to break apart the hardened film (hopefully shatter) at the bottom of the flask with a scoop so I could dump it out?

Damn this thread better have made sense. I'm pretty baked.

Before it all evaporates (butane/hexane) throw a match into flask. For better results stick your nose near bho oil and enjoy

 

[nachoconqueso]

Before it all evaporates (butane/hexane) throw a match into flask. For better results stick your nose near bho oil and enjoy

Get your fucking shit together.

 

[gunnaknow]

Hey Nacho, you can use ethanol to dissolve the film no problem but it is better to then filter the ethanol. This will remove most of the wax. If you want to remove all but a trace amount, you need to chill it in the freezer for 24-48 hours and then filter. It's nice to see someone making use of a side-arm flask. You can use it for the secondary filtration after winterizing. With gravity filtration, it's better to place it back in the freezer while it filters but vacuum filtration is fast enough to not need this. It can still help to chill the buchner funnel and pre-wetted filter paper in the freezer before vacuum filtering but it's not absolutely necessary.

 

[gunnaknow]

double post

 

[Gray Wolf]

I need some clarification. Lets say I've purged in a flask and I'm left with a film at the bottom of the flask. Can I dissolve this film in ethanol and further separate lipids and waxes? Is it as simple as pipetting and discarding the top layer then evaporating the ethanol? So it seems then that this would also cause loss of terpenes, is this correct?

In my setup, it is a benefit to redissolve because I am vacuum filtering into a sidearm flask. This way I can pour the ethanol into a beaker and collect a very nice (hopefully) shatter.

Ok, I have one more question. If I kept the terpenes in would I be able to break apart the hardened film (hopefully shatter) at the bottom of the flask with a scoop so I could dump it out?

Damn this thread better have made sense. I'm pretty baked.

What GN said about chilling for 48 hours and filtering out the waxes. You will lose some terpenes when you evaporate away the alcohol, but can still end up with a highly floral extraction.

After the alcohol is removed, the film at the bottom of the flask will be very hard to scoop out, even heated, unless you are willing to break the flask. We vacuum or distill away the last 10% of the alcohol in a more open container, so it can be removed more easily afterwards.

 

[nachoconqueso]

Thanks guys. You're god damn helpful. Can I just pour the filtered ethanol into a beaker and let it evaporate on its own or maybe speed it up in a warm water bath?

 

[gunnaknow]

It really needs the aid of heat or a vacuum, especially once it get's down to a viscous state. Or you can spray dry it, which will create a fine powdered extract. You have a vacuum pump so you might aswel make use of that.

 

[nachoconqueso]

It really needs the aid of heat or a vacuum, especially once it get's down to a viscous state. Or you can spray dry it, which will create a fine powdered extract. You have a vacuum pump so you might aswel make use of that.

Oh yeah I agree. I really wanted to avoid getting a vacuum chamber. I was hoping to remove the ethanol in a beaker instead of a flask so I could scrape the product out of there. I don't know of a vacuum setup besides a sidearm or a chamber.

Are we using 190 proof to make this happen?

 

[gunnaknow]

You can make your own vacuum chamber fairly cheaply by modifying an old pressure cooker. GW knows a thing or two about that...

http://skunkpharmresearch.com/diy-vacuum-purging-chamber/

Yup, 190 proof is just fine.

 

[nachoconqueso]

You can make your own vacuum chamber fairly cheaply by modifying an old pressure cooker. GW knows a thing or two about that...

http://skunkpharmresearch.com/diy-vacuum-purging-chamber/

Yup, 190 proof is just fine.

Aw man...do I have too? I want all the ethanol out of there, but damn, I wish there was another way that was as effective. I didn't want to buy/make a vacuum chamber. I guess I'm left with no choice.

 

[gunnaknow]

You could possibly line a tall, narrow, column with a teflon baking sheet, pour in the ethanol solution and insert it into your side-arm flask with some tongs. Once purged, you could slide the teflon baking sheet out and remove the absolute. It wouldn't purge as fast as it would if the solution could fill the entire flask but it may still purge reasonably quickly, with the addition of heat.

 

[MandalaDevi]

Thanks guys. You're god damn helpful. Can I just pour the filtered ethanol into a beaker and let it evaporate on its own or maybe speed it up in a warm water bath?

Can use a spark to the ethanol.

 

[nachoconqueso]

Can use a spark to the ethanol.

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[gunnaknow]

Nacho, you can use heat alone, a vacuum just helps alot. If you use a hot water bath or double boiler then try to evaporate in thin films, atleast for the final phase. Obviously you could still make use of the side-arm flask to remove about 90% of the alcohol first, as GW said.

 

[MandalaDevi]

increase flame by reducing the quantum matter by 1

 

[SpaceshipNelson]

increase flame by reducing the quantum matter by 1

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"

 

[MandalaDevi]

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"

Being a fool is not the question but different states are!

 

[DinosaurCocks]

ive tried every method of purging out there, i get the best results from my oven, even over my buddies vacume purger! i get the hardest shatter, and the strongest hits from oven purged oil, it seems to evaporate faster on my hmk plate too...and another benefit to oven purging is it activates the oil without vaporising it, so you can literally swallow dabs and get high as if you were eating weed cookies...

basically i heat my oven to 180 and put my dish in for 20 minutes, it removes any remaining butane and water from your oil, but be sure the big butane bubbles have stopped forming before you put it in the oven, no sense making a bomb...as somebody who has been at the center of a butane hash explosion i really wouldn't recommend rushing your pyrex dish to any oven before you pop off all the bubbles...