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Most consitent autoflower?

Jhhnn

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You didn't debunk anything, just made some claims without evidence and backed it up with one random picture that proves nothing. Like I said before you don't understand autos. There are plenty of stable strains out there. Durrty Dragons are very stable and will pump out similar plants over and over. Diesel ryder is as well, which you did not disprove with your random ramblings. As far as size and quality? Well, those little plants you showed us were little because you must not understand autos :)

After hearing you call autos mediocre and small I think you should sit on this 10.2 oz HBD and spin. 78 days from seed I believe.

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Now as for rude, you're the one who came in here swinging making bad claims and backing them up with nothing. You were the one who started trolling autos and being rude. Maybe something was just lost in translation, but it would seem that people think you are the troll :/

Anyway, please stick around and learn about autos. Your one or two experiences with a first generation auto or an industrial hemp don't really count. You could learn a whole lot, and there are a ton of autos to look into now.

Absolutely amazing. Hydro?
 

offthehook

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@ Mr Jay.

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After I'd trim and pamper my Diesels a bit, something like that could roll out as well.

But then we are talking what? 1 out of several thousends of seeds again?

Now how many of those superb specimens will show up at your place, out of a batch of lets say 1000 seeds?

This thread is about consistency I believe... Not Noob traps. ^^
 
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Reg Dixon

Member
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You didn't debunk anything, just made some claims without evidence and backed it up with one random picture that proves nothing. Like I said before you don't understand autos. There are plenty of stable strains out there. Durrty Dragons are very stable and will pump out similar plants over and over. Diesel ryder is as well, which you did not disprove with your random ramblings. As far as size and quality? Well, those little plants you showed us were little because you must not understand autos :)

After hearing you call autos mediocre and small I think you should sit on this 10.2 oz HBD and spin. 78 days from seed I believe.

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Now as for rude, you're the one who came in here swinging making bad claims and backing them up with nothing. You were the one who started trolling autos and being rude. Maybe something was just lost in translation, but it would seem that people think you are the troll :/

Anyway, please stick around and learn about autos. Your one or two experiences with a first generation auto or an industrial hemp don't really count. You could learn a whole lot, and there are a ton of autos to look into now.

wow thanks for the pic. 10.2 oz in less than 80 days from seed. :dance013:

I want some of those. :biggrin:
 

Sandnut

Active member
Russian rocket fuel has a really bushy pheno, it would look something like the one Mr.jay posted, Mi5 aswell. Im not sure about the ratios but i'd guess about 1/10. Usually out of a 100pack you find 1~ that is extremely outstanding speaking in breeding terms, might even have to pop more/less depending on luck, and growth factors preventing plants from growing out showing their true capacity

Also i've seen great stuff from 'think different' AF

Why do you demand such a high yield from a single auto? I dont think were there yet (with a decent seed to bud time), you are better off running them in numbers for high yields, s.o.g, early finishers and more bud for you in the long run

If you are thinking about outdoors, i think anything that yields that much is prune to mold (i see you are at 65lat)
 

canned abyss1

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Five of my spyder seeds consistently dried up and died. Waste of money.

I tried to work with you, I asked you about your situation so that I could try to figure out what happened and you never responded, I even talked to others that grow a lot of spyder to see if they experienced anything like this and they haven't, I told you this but I still did not hear from you until you post here. If others are having similar issues I want to know about it so that I can resolve the problem, but so far the reviews and feedback have been positive, except for the one with no explanation of the situation.
peace, canned abyss
 

Mr Jay

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This whole thread is just turning into a bunch of bickering and I'm bowing out now that I've said what I have to say.

Lets get busy growing autos while the haters are busy hating :D
 

mckb024

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never had problems with spyder seeds drying up unless I didn't keep the moist during germ.

REMEMBER SMOKEY just because it's an auto does'nt mean it waters itself brother.
 
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offthehook

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Canned abys, Do you perform the 'pinch test' on all your seeds before you ship them?

I noticed that several good looking seeds that I would judge by eye to be ferfect, will anyways be bad inside after performing the 'pinchtest' and so never realy had a chance to make it.

The chance for someone to get 5 seeds in a row out of a batch of five for this to happen is potentially present.

Does n't have shit to do with the quality of the breeder or the grower, s' just tough luck on both.
 
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offthehook

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This whole thread is just turning into a bunch of bickering and I'm bowing out now that I've said what I have to say.

Lets get busy growing autos while the haters are busy hating :D

You're getting here too emotional man, noone is n't hating auto's here.
I love auto's, especially my Diesels. I love the challenge they have to offer, and I like comments like from Sandnut who offers some insight on behalf of the numbers of other breeders.

I suppose you're a good guy with a lot of heart and passion for our auto's... but so am I. You 're just looking at it from a different angle than I do, and prolly suppose I'm one of those spoiled rotten bashers brats for whem even the best won't be enough. Wich I'm not.

And against who do you have to defend our trade?

We're on the same team man.
 
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Jhhnn

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Many modern hybrid strains will have 2 or 3 well defined & expected phenotypes, generation after generation. That's consistency, just of a different sort.

Others show little consistency when grown from seed, but exceptional individuals are selected for clone propagation. When those individuals are the basis for autoflowers, there's no reason to think that the seeds produced will be any more consistent than the parent strain. This makes them a poor choice for development of autoflowering progeny, simply because cloning autoflowers won't work.
 

SmokeyTheBear

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I tried to work with you, I asked you about your situation so that I could try to figure out what happened and you never responded, I even talked to others that grow a lot of spyder to see if they experienced anything like this and they haven't, I told you this but I still did not hear from you until you post here. If others are having similar issues I want to know about it so that I can resolve the problem, but so far the reviews and feedback have been positive, except for the one with no explanation of the situation.
peace, canned abyss

You told me to contact the retailer who told me to contact you which I did. You apologized for what happened and the vibe I got from you was, too bad, that sucks. You never said to contact you again.

It was very weird that the dinafem road runner #2, g13 labs auto diesel and my own sour secret all grew fine along side the spyder in the same conditions. I rarely buy seeds but when I do.... I grow them out to see how they turn out. Then I decide whether they are worth ordering again to make my own stock of seeds from them.
 

canned abyss1

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You told me to contact the retailer who told me to contact you which I did. You apologized for what happened and the vibe I got from you was, too bad, that sucks. You never said to contact you again.

It was very weird that the dinafem road runner #2, g13 labs auto diesel and my own sour secret all grew fine along side the spyder in the same conditions. I rarely buy seeds but when I do.... I grow them out to see how they turn out. Then I decide whether they are worth ordering again to make my own stock of seeds from them.

You told me about your situation, and I asked for more info so that I could try and figure out what happened, you responded asking if I thought they would refund you but you didn't give me any info that I requested so that I could try to help you. I said I am not sure what their policy is, so you should contact them. If I had that info, it would help to determine whether it was breeder error or consumer error. If there is a problem on my end I want to correct it.
peace canned abyss
 

Mr Jay

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Smokey, if you're going to be like this then I have to complain about your seeds that i bought at auction. All of the jems I bought from you hermied, the very few that survived. All the rest of the seeds I sprouted with them made it just fine, but only three out of ten of yours made it. I am direct contact with mossy and test for the dragon master seed company and true jems don't herm, they are stable.

I was reading some of your post about hermies and feminizing from around the same time and this leads me to believe you think hermies are how you produce female seed, which means you've been encouraging hermies in your grow room. The Jems I have delt with from original stock since I grew yours have all sprouted and grown well with few issues.

Before I saw your post in this thread you have always been a stand up feller and a good grower. Just beware of throwing stones in a glass house my friend, we all have our own downfalls.
 

mckb024

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I just poped six spyder, and all six sprouted, and are doing great. I'm about to move them outside soon. Mr Jay is right smokey, we all have bad luck some times. just roll with it don't blame the breeder without a proper reason. peace smokey, and sorry if I pissed you of that was not my intent. I like to joke around
 

fatburt

Member
i grew spyder and wasnt too impressed.lacked potency...the buds were very purple,but who cares if the smoke doesnt get you high.didnt really care for the taste either.
dinafem auto amnesia is an excellent auto.so is afghan kush ryder.
 
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