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eL artist

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So been out for a little due to jealous ass bitches and their dumb decisions. Cant believe my last set up got poisoned. If you ever get white foam in your hydro that smell hella weird and over night all your plants go yellow and everything dies including your soil you been fucked w/ no lube. any way took while to recoop but im back.

So to the new set up. I moved into closet, had stop doing the 4800w shit. Got a blackstar 240w led

with 4 6" vert t5 hydrofarm lights at 24w a piece

so 240 + (24*4)= suppose to be 336 watt but with fan (on low) and air pump and my little water pump for veg I am at 280w on a killawatt. The flo room measure 18" x 30

then in back of closet got the veg room with a 4 6" bulb hydrofarm t5 light

got mom's in dirt in the veg room
 

eL artist

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also have an 5 gallon aero cloner in there with a little 240gph pump

these are next girls veg'ing at day 42 of flo. they have 3 weeks before flo
think going start next cuts right after these move to flo instead of waiting cpl weeks
 

eL artist

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so far pretty happy with setup. think girls need more veg before flo but was in hurry for this run and lost girl in transplant. think i can fit 4 in flo room. no trainng or fim'ing this time around either.
here is day 19

and day 29
 

gh0stm0de

Active member
looking healthy, but back off the nutes a little bit man. see that little bit of leaf curl/cupping? what we had with the dj true blues a lot? notice how on the very tips of the leaves you see the initial burn signs? step down a bit and watch them respond..

good job on the perpetuality, the upcoming veg girls look healthy.

something to consider on the topic of fim/top, training, etc.. with this LED/fluro, you will not have the same light penetration depth as a solid HID light.. not to say they cannot product sufficient quality personals, but it just means they cater to shorter plants, OR plants that have been trained effectively in an effort to even out the canopy and "level the playing field" so allow for even, more efficient and effective light penetration and thus use of power/light/space..

on the topic of the white foam, without knowing more its hard to offer much insight, but "ambient" bubbles at the surface can be indicitave of microbial life (research Actively Aerated Compost Teas) which are disastrous in dwc when you don't specifically introduce beneficials..

for the record, stop using hygrozyme if you havent already. single worst thing we could have added, I take complete responsibility but in fairness the studies of enzymes in dwc werent really out there in 06/07 the way they are now.... was direct contributor to our root rot issue..

my post on your other thread was just a prod to test mindstate via reply if any.. so no hard feelings I hope.. working on my posts now so I can drop you PM.. last thing i wanna do is chop it up on your same line you've had forever..
 

gh0stm0de

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hard to really see from pics etc but I guess you're going to say the vert t5s are why you didnt wanna train etc and maybe fair nuff given the setup..


whats the strain
 

eL artist

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Not sure the strain could be one from my earlier collection. Not even sure if all same. My goal is to train amd fim but had littlw time and was more focused on spreading base knowledge to novice. Next time will move more advanced techniques and hopefully increase yield significantly.

I agree on nutes going be around 650 next run round 8 now

If I undertand hygrozyeme correctly it is a enzyeme that helps keep system clean of pathogens. And I have been recommended and seen other ppl recommend it due to potential to keep rot in check.

In terms of white foam. This was something that happened after I took over on solo mode. Something was introduced to my flood and drain set up that caused white foam to form over night and foam was impossible to get rid of, even after days and days of constant flushing, due to knowledge of another poisoning that occured and being told postposioning symptoms, I was able to deduce I was fucked.
 

eL artist

Member
And foam was filling a 35 gallon res consstantly could scoop out by bucket load every cpl hours. Not ambient bubbles this shit was foam.

I actually kinda survivied first poisoning and was fighting tooth and nail to keep things going, introduced some dirts girls, got foam to stop forming as much after cpl weeks but then got hit again. Dirt and hydro died over night, and they had no related nutes and I have never ever ever had a dirt girl die on me.
 
by a few more weeks left, i hope you mean 8. very sativa looking plants you are growing. if i was you, i would try for a sog of indicas, and not just a few sativas. you will get way more each run, and they will be ready 2-4 weeks faster (each cycle) than what you are growing now
 

eL artist

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Couple of update pics be coming down soon
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gh0stm0de

Active member
8 weeks yea right those plants have 3 weeks max, 2 more likely.

you are correct about the purpose of hygrozyme, but google is your friend and hygrozyme (certain enzymes) are not good in dwc.. if you want a more specific source, peruse ********* for information regarding the topic. research or not, your choice.. to say it is impossible to produce acceptable results with hygrozyme would be incredibly flawed, I won't tell you to write a book this time ;) but certainly also won't share anything with you based off of conjecture..

but yea man good job you might almost have a zip or 2 of larf there.

what was the rationale in lighting selection? not knocking one bit, maybe I have something laying round, just tryna figure out where you're at w/ things
 

gh0stm0de

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for the record, regarding the ppm, I PEAK @ 650-700 these days, 5 gal undercurrent, under thouwies.. if you have the means do a side by side comparison on ppm i'll str8 bet u cash that you'd yield more with 1/2 your current ppms

what's your nute composition these days?

sucks to be poisoned, don't think for a sec you're the first guy who got fucked over or set up, nor will you be the last... as you know only the strong survive in this world so u put it out there now lets see how u bounce back.. maybe some boss genetics would help you in that regard..

it deleted the suggestion i gave you: t . h . c . f . a . r . m . e . r . can yield you information regarding undercurrent/dwc/vert/hygrozyme all that good stuff.
 

eL artist

Member
check your pm's gh0stm0de my bad on the time it took. any one following this thread my ppl's shit going fine round two underway post some post pic later
 

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