spiritual ganja

[Mr. Lovebuzzed]

hello

we have medical marihuana, we have recreational marihuana... do we have spiritual kind? i mean are there strains which are not breed for medical purposes or relaxing, fun purposes, but breed for spiritual or sacred qualities, for mental development??? does this community even have concept of spiritual marihuana? if so, what is it?

your opinions?

 

[el dub]

Started as recreational user. Its all spiritual use to me now. The physical, medicinal properties, although important, come in second in my book.

To me, a good spiritual strain is one that knocks me down and forces me to view my actions from a third person perspective. To me a spiritual strain is humbling.

c-99 from bros Grimm was one of my favorites in this regard.

lw

 

[Rinse]

I find most weed is all 3 recreational, medicinal and spiritual, but there are exceptions, I find some stones are too serious/debilitating for recreational use, and the general uplifting effects of sativas may be more geared towards the spiritual use...

Though what is "spiritual" use? Some form of Ancient Shamanism? Buddhist meditation? Rastafarian reasoning? Even some Christians use it as holy sacrament)

 

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[Mr. Lovebuzzed]

Though what is "spiritual" use? Some form of Ancient Shamanism? Buddhist meditation? Rastafarian reasoning? Even some Christians use it as holy sacrament)

hi Rinse, yes its good question... i think you named some points of view on same thing, but i didnt ask about buddhists opinion, but about opinions of members here... and if some member is buddhist, rasta or christian im ok with it...

i mean spiritual, that you work on yourself, not in moral sense - but maybe someone yes, that your experience becomes more wider? you gain some personal recognition, gain some better qualities to your life, some developing your life in some way with using ganja, whatever it can be for you.. i asked if somebody use ganja in some mental treatment of yourself, any kind of it, in some life program and how it is going.. can you see difference in relation to recreational use? when you just relax or having fun?

i know thar some hedonists or materialists think its useless question... ok! also if you are workin hard and have minimal time for relax, its not question for you i know...

but question is about strains also..

thx to all for their opinion or sharing experience

 

[schwilly]

for me, all ganj is a sacrament. which is why i smoke so sparingly.

when you smoke all day or use concentrates daily you lose the spiritual, psychedelic, and creative aspects of the plant, imo.

this is why i take a month or two long break from ganj every year or so. i'm just past my first week of one right now.

now, there is nothing wrong with daily heavy use, it has its own special aspects. some of the best times in my life in fact. though also some of the worst.

but for me, smoking one hit a day or not smoking for several days and then burning a fattie is what takes me where i want to be.

one of the most profound and enlightening trips i've ever taken was from a very large butter dose and a lay in a hammock. the only time i've ever achieved complete lucid dreaming. i was eating dmt heavily in this same location on separate occasions if that provides any perspective.

so, again imo, the spiritual realm of cannabis is only truly accessible when approached with a low tolerance and a mind eager for the ganj.



oh and pure sativa or sativa leaning ganj helps too :wink:

 

[mathias]

Clear sativa are perfect for spiritual , haze , asian landrace .... Not indica or skunk cross .
But it important to smoke in the good "spiritual" place , not in the big city ...

 

[Fuzz420]

I Found M.O.D.'s Kali Most to highly enlightening.

Kali Most,spiritual readiness and experience all combined at the right time in my life to completely change my spiritual outlook on life.Good luck i hope you find what your soul yearns for.

 

[billyblog]

Naturally, spirituality is subjective to a person's experiences and therefore generally definable in terms of perspective and/or perception. That being said, gunja is as the indians say, 'the great enlightener'.

And because gunja is subjective to your thoughts and perceptions, it will usually enhance that state of mind if you're already heading there but to expect it to kick in and snatch you from another focus to give you a spiritual experience, might be expecting a bit...

I think the only strains that don't do it for me are knock down indicas, although even they have the ability, only for the fact that the experience might be short lived as you'll be quickly shutting down rather than rising up...

Really, if you're spiritually inclined as you obviously are to be asking such a question, almost any sativa or sat/indi hybrid will do something to enhance this state of consciousness providing you are open to it at the time and don't get caught up in something else, although even the experience of that deviation may be considered spiritual according to some.

And because your definition of spirituality may be vastly different to mine, I'd suggest you experiment for yourself, truly the only way with something so subjective to your own viewpoint.

billy

 

[blan-k-flor]

I think it changes from one person to another... but in my case, cannabis smoking have made lot of changes in my inner life, it changed my point of view of life and improved my health a lot, for example i became vegetarian few years ago thanks to weed .

 

[Mr. Lovebuzzed]

Naturally, spirituality is subjective to a person's experiences and therefore generally definable in terms of perspective and/or perception. That being said, gunja is as the indians say, 'the great enlightener'.

And because gunja is subjective to your thoughts and perceptions, it will usually enhance that state of mind if you're already heading there but to expect it to kick in and snatch you from another focus to give you a spiritual experience, might be expecting a bit...

nice post billy, yeah i think indians call it to be "shanti" and they use that term not in subjective: like its different from person to person, but they use like that feeling is common for everybody who is smoking it.. of course set and settings..

 

[Jhhnn]

hello

we have medical marihuana, we have recreational marihuana... do we have spiritual kind? i mean are there strains which are not breed for medical purposes or relaxing, fun purposes, but breed for spiritual or sacred qualities, for mental development??? does this community even have concept of spiritual marihuana? if so, what is it?

your opinions?

I think you're talking about sativas or mostly sativas, bred for "mind expanding", "clear head" & "sensory enhancing" qualities. On the other side of it, some indicas & Kushes provide a calm & contemplative state of mind, particularly some not highly bred to give that "smacked in the forehead with a mallet" effect. Lots of medical indicas are like that, having been bred primarily for pain relief.

Look for strains described by their breeders in spiritual terms. Mandala and Bodhi sometimes do, along with some others. When breeders recognize the spiritual aspects of cannabis, they'll breed for it. Look for strains or descendants of strains traditionally used in a spiritual context. It's been one of the main uses of the stuff for thousands of years.

There are different sorts of spirituality, anyway. Sometimes it's introspective, focused within, and sometimes it's a state of being better attuned to nature & her most profound creation, the human race.

 

[yesum]

For some the sativa type high can be too racy and wild to be productive in a spiritual sense.

A good indica can provide introspection very well and not be a freak out at the same time. Maple Leaf Indica, GDP, and Black Domina being some I use and get some 'spiritual' feelings from at times.

Mostly it is the user wanting that spiritual feeling that is making this happen, less so the strain used.

 

[Jhhnn]

For some the sativa type high can be too racy and wild to be productive in a spiritual sense.

A good indica can provide introspection very well and not be a freak out at the same time. Maple Leaf Indica, GDP, and Black Domina being some I use and get some 'spiritual' feelings from at times.

Mostly it is the user wanting that spiritual feeling that is making this happen, less so the strain used.

I think you're mostly right. Some people need to turn off thoughts about their cares & worries to get in touch with their inner peace. Others who are more adept can summon that peace more easily, use it in broader & more expansive explorations of consciousness. One has to be able to do that to appreciate the effects of highly psychoactive sativas.

That's even more true when applied to other more potent psychoactive substances. If you freaked out smoking Kali Mist, You probably want to stay away from LSD.

I think it's important to note that both MLI & GDP are regarded as having unique properties conducive to a meditative state rather than a stoned into oblivion state. There are others, I'm sure.

 

[yesum]

I stay away from acid ^^ hehe. Had a couple bad trips years ago. Mushrooms were the perfect high and very spiritual, more than any pot I have smoked. No bad trips from them but have not done them in many years.

Shrooms and to some degree some strains of pot, usually a sativa, will kind of kill off the ego and make it seem you are outside of yourself. Shrooms made my body numb which added to the being outside of myself feeling. Brain going a mile a minute....

This outside looking in experience can be really illuminating but you run a risk of feeling lost and panicking. The milder strains I mentioned do not do much of the depersonalization but are also not prone to giving me any anxiety at any time.

You mentioned MLI and GDP as being meditative and not the Black Domina. I agree, but the BD I have is a SAD pheno and it has a euphoric, uplifted feeling to it so I included it on that effect.

The MLI and GDP are quite cerebral while not inducing any unpleasant mental effects that go with the sativas sometimes. The BD has the typical heavier indica feeling to it and will hammer your ass down in higher doses.

Have a Panama Red from ACE that would fit the bill here. No freakouts but will take you on a journey that is not exactly relaxing and can get kinda strange.

 

[barnyard]

The Shanti Bobo Rastafari on Trinidad Island:

"We don't smoke herb for head, we don't smoke herb to get high, to hallucinate, or to enjoy a party. We don't smoke herb for that. We smoke herb for meditation because our life is our meditation. Life is meditation. When you wake up in the morning you're meditating, till you go to bed at night. Even when you sleep you meditating because your mind don't sleep".

from Strain Hunters Trinidad and St. Vincent expedition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNKx2sjK2J8

Excellent topic for a thread Mr. L!

BTW, the Rastafari on the island were growing "Arizona Skunk" and "Jam Jam Skunk"

 

[The Hatter]

hello

we have medical marihuana, we have recreational marihuana... do we have spiritual kind? i mean are there strains which are not breed for medical purposes or relaxing, fun purposes, but breed for spiritual or sacred qualities, for mental development??? does this community even have concept of spiritual marihuana? if so, what is it?

your opinions?

I would definitely say stick to land race sativas if you are chasing a spiritual experience. I personally find Tibetan and Nepalese highland sativas to have quite a soothing yet stimulating and meditative sort of effect.

If you are looking for a more psychedelic experience then look towards some of the heavier tropical south east asian and the african sativa strains. It's also important that you do not partake in any cannabis for a couple of days before trying to accomplish a psychedelic sort of experience and then stick to strains with high THCV and THC content rather than CBD.

CBD strains like most of the indicas will actually interfere with the experience and detract from its psychedelic properties rather than enhance them. The same goes for other sedatives such as alcohol and tranquillizers.

As others have mentioned setting is very important. My favorite spot is the high desert for such journeys although any natural setting will work out quite nicely.

 

[Galactic]

I must first seek the patience to flower over 9 weeks... but man o man I really do wonder if the pot beyond that will prove as we imagine.

i'm just trying to smoke that purple haze jimmy hendrix was talking about... c99 barely makes me tickle and i've had samples from 17-23%thc

for me to get 'spiritual', i'd probably have to go clean for a week and then move right into clearing the 3-footer with hash sprinkled on buds

first time smoking bho was green crack and i still only got 'very high'

 

[wingdings]

Jimi Hendrix was not singing about weed.

 

[Jhhnn]

Jimi Hendrix was not singing about weed.

Indeed.