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magnet experiment
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@Magnetic Susceptibility and Soil Fertility article:
i think that's why steel plows do so much damage. they de-energize/de-magnetize the soil and leave lots of small rust particles in the ground which kill of some of the microorganisms.
(it's a schauberger idea of course!
)
i think that's why steel plows do so much damage. they de-energize/de-magnetize the soil and leave lots of small rust particles in the ground which kill of some of the microorganisms.
(it's a schauberger idea of course!
)
waiting for the girls...
@Magnetic Susceptibility and Soil Fertility article:
i think that's why steel plows do so much damage. they de-energize/de-magnetize the soil and leave lots of small rust particles in the ground which kill of some of the microorganisms.
(it's a schauberger idea of course!
that's a stretch!
they break the fungi hyphae which causes so much damage.
rust kills microbial populations? nah man...
Rust Ecosystem
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Moist areas containing iron are often home to iron-oxidizing bacteria.Rust creates a microscopic ecosystem home
to numerous species of bacteria. Scientists identified 27 different species of bacteria living on rusting remains of the Titanic two miles below the ocean surface. A foul-smelling sludge often identifies presence of bacteria inhabiting iron rust. Many iron-eating bacteria produce sulfur byproducts for sulfur-metabolizing bacteria that release hydrogen sulfide with a characteristic rotten egg smell. Hydrogen sulfide accounts for the foul odor.
Moist areas containing iron are often home to iron-oxidizing bacteria.Read more: Does Bacteria Affect the Rusting of Iron? | eHow http://www.ehow.com/info_7852890_bacteria-affect-rusting-iron.html#ixzz2UW48u400
whoops, should have said "increases pathogenic bacteria".
http://eko-bg.com/1/index.php?optio...berger&catid=37:application&Itemid=55&lang=en
of course i'm way out of my league here...
http://www.nipne.ro/rjp/2006_51_1-2/0245_0252.pdf
http://informahealthcare.com/doi/pdf/10.1081/JBC-100100303
http://hrcak.srce.hr/ojs/index.php/jcea/article/view/118/63
Some of the more interesting articles I've managed to find on plant growth and electromagnetism. It seems the effect is most visible at a cellular level so I'm not 100% on what kind of affect running the field through your growth medium is going to have.
http://informahealthcare.com/doi/pdf/10.1081/JBC-100100303
http://hrcak.srce.hr/ojs/index.php/jcea/article/view/118/63
Some of the more interesting articles I've managed to find on plant growth and electromagnetism. It seems the effect is most visible at a cellular level so I'm not 100% on what kind of affect running the field through your growth medium is going to have.
me either...
but it's worth a looksee.
already observed phenotypical deviations so there is something even if it is at cellular level.
i'm flummoxed.
...and Max, no league here brother, other than the league of learning. you doin' fine. if you have any interest in these things you belong here... fringe as it may be.
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Couldn't put it better myself, it's the curiosity that counts dude!
palmero
Active member
Hi trich,
nice read. thx m8.
Maybe these links have some info for You
http://bajarmp3.net/video-mp3_90882zWXCUk
http://www.urzeitcode.com/english/
Quote from there:
...exposed cereal seeds and fish eggs to an "electrostatic field" – in other words, to a high voltage field, in which no current flows.
Unexpectedly primeval organisms grew out of these seeds
This one is in german, any prob while translating PM me.
http://www.desert-greening.com/umweltheilung/orga-urkult?start=1
Good luck
palmero
nice read. thx m8.
Maybe these links have some info for You
http://bajarmp3.net/video-mp3_90882zWXCUk
http://www.urzeitcode.com/english/
Quote from there:
...exposed cereal seeds and fish eggs to an "electrostatic field" – in other words, to a high voltage field, in which no current flows.
Unexpectedly primeval organisms grew out of these seeds
This one is in german, any prob while translating PM me.
http://www.desert-greening.com/umweltheilung/orga-urkult?start=1
Good luck
palmero
thank you, Danke.Hi trich,
nice read. thx m8.
Maybe these links have some info for You
http://bajarmp3.net/video-mp3_90882zWXCUk
http://www.urzeitcode.com/english/
Quote from there:
...exposed cereal seeds and fish eggs to an "electrostatic field" – in other words, to a high voltage field, in which no current flows.
Unexpectedly primeval organisms grew out of these seeds
This one is in german, any prob while translating PM me.
http://www.desert-greening.com/umweltheilung/orga-urkult?start=1
Good luck
palmero
last one is interesting, what little i could comprehend, along the lines of what i'm seeing...and this...
..."The idea of obtaining and using "ground energy" is covered in secrecy. What would happen to fossil fuel companies were it even suspected that vast electrical energy could be simply pulled from the ground at specific points? These energies began "making their appearance" during the years of telegraphy. Well placed telegraphic ground plates were able to operate with energy simply taken from the ground. Several early telegraph lines historically continued signaling among stations, though their batteries had been "dry and dead" for several years! I spoke to an engineer who saw this kind of system operation when yet a teenager. Seeing this strange system in full working order so impressed him that, developing that rare taste, he forever sought such anomalies as a lifelong passion. Numerous articles from the last century retell exact details concerning these phenomena. It is possible to demonstrate its principle with ground rods and galvanometers. Yes, there is great energy in the earth, vast natural energy that is accessible only in specific points. But the true and fundamental identity of that energy has been questioned. Most qualified investigators observe that ground energy does not "begin" as electricity. Electricity from the ground only appears after several natural stages of transformation. Vegetative growth. This is evidenced in old telegraph lines where measured currents do not provide adequate wattage for the activities, which are thereafter observed in the components. This was especially true for the forgotten chemical telegraph systems, where scarcely any electrical current managed the successful exchange of strong signals. The forgotten science of selecting "special ground sites" is re-emerging among VLF radio researchers. No two-ground sites are ever the same. It is possible to probe around in a garden with simple meters and metal rods to prove this claim. Touching carbon and iron rods to the ground registers as currents ONLY when specific points are touched. It is fascinating to find extremely active sensitivity spots immediately adjacent to points, which produce absolutely no response in meters. The effects measurably increase despite rod separations. In no manner can these be referred to as "electrolytic" or "battery actions", since the requirement for best energy extraction by this method is dry ground. Rainwater destroys these effects. Moreover, it is only when the right ground contacts are made that one will watch the meter "pin". There the meter will remain until the rods are removed. Such energetic discharges can continue for months! Removing the rods, however, produces a more astounding phenomenon. The meter, dropping to "zero", does not rise again when the rods are replaced in their very same ground-points. One can lift one rod out of its well, watch the meter drop, and then instantly replace the rod with no resultant energy rise. Ground energy withdraws in a manner suggestive of "biological irritation". Each of these phenomena may be demonstrated to personal satisfaction with very simple apparatus."
see ya around...http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2010/arch10/100630biology.htm
Thought you might find this interesting Trich.
I will say though, I'm slightly wary of the 'morphic fields' theory. It was originally thought up in the early 20th century, pre-genetics. As it describes phenomena that we can also explain through genetics, I'm more keen to set it aside as we set aside ideas such as a universal aether. There really is a huge difference between modern and 'classical' (I'd say pre 1980's frankly) biology, so much so that they can really be viewed as separate fields. Modern biology shows us that all these hugely complex phenomena that we see in life can be caused by atomic-scale events multiplied trillions of times in a coordinated fashion.
http://jandeane81.com/showthread.php?7680-The-Primeval-Code
The text is mostly the same but it includes a few extra points and some snaps of the organisms they created. I have no problems with this besides seeing genetic modification as a problem but that's a topic for another thread
I do think though that there may be a slight misunderstanding of what electrostatic can mean. As the electric biology blog states, a cell membrane acts as a barrier for the flow of charged ions and can thus create an chemical potential. The image shown above the text on the same site shows how Na+/K+ ions are used to create a current in a neuron. So we know that the environment inside a cell is radically different to the outside, regardless of the cell type. The difference in concentrations of charged ions inside and outside the cell will mean that there is always a potential current around the membrane. Perhaps the introduction of a magnetic current alters this? I also liked the idea of it affecting the natural energy conformations of proteins within the cell
Thought you might find this interesting Trich.
I will say though, I'm slightly wary of the 'morphic fields' theory. It was originally thought up in the early 20th century, pre-genetics. As it describes phenomena that we can also explain through genetics, I'm more keen to set it aside as we set aside ideas such as a universal aether. There really is a huge difference between modern and 'classical' (I'd say pre 1980's frankly) biology, so much so that they can really be viewed as separate fields. Modern biology shows us that all these hugely complex phenomena that we see in life can be caused by atomic-scale events multiplied trillions of times in a coordinated fashion.
http://jandeane81.com/showthread.php?7680-The-Primeval-Code
The text is mostly the same but it includes a few extra points and some snaps of the organisms they created. I have no problems with this besides seeing genetic modification as a problem but that's a topic for another thread
I do think though that there may be a slight misunderstanding of what electrostatic can mean. As the electric biology blog states, a cell membrane acts as a barrier for the flow of charged ions and can thus create an chemical potential. The image shown above the text on the same site shows how Na+/K+ ions are used to create a current in a neuron. So we know that the environment inside a cell is radically different to the outside, regardless of the cell type. The difference in concentrations of charged ions inside and outside the cell will mean that there is always a potential current around the membrane. Perhaps the introduction of a magnetic current alters this? I also liked the idea of it affecting the natural energy conformations of proteins within the cell
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2010/arch10/100630biology.htm
Thought you might find this interesting Trich.
I will say though, I'm slightly wary of the 'morphic fields' theory. It was originally thought up in the early 20th century, pre-genetics. As it describes phenomena that we can also explain through genetics, I'm more keen to set it aside as we set aside ideas such as a universal aether. There really is a huge difference between modern and 'classical' (I'd say pre 1980's frankly) biology, so much so that they can really be viewed as separate fields. Modern biology shows us that all these hugely complex phenomena that we see in life can be caused by atomic-scale events multiplied trillions of times in a coordinated fashion.
http://jandeane81.com/showthread.php?7680-The-Primeval-Code
The text is mostly the same but it includes a few extra points and some snaps of the organisms they created. I have no problems with this besides seeing genetic modification as a problem but that's a topic for another thread
I do think though that there may be a slight misunderstanding of what electrostatic can mean. As the electric biology blog states, a cell membrane acts as a barrier for the flow of charged ions and can thus create an chemical potential. The image shown above the text on the same site shows how Na+/K+ ions are used to create a current in a neuron. So we know that the environment inside a cell is radically different to the outside, regardless of the cell type. The difference in concentrations of charged ions inside and outside the cell will mean that there is always a potential current around the membrane. Perhaps the introduction of a magnetic current alters this? I also liked the idea of it affecting the natural energy conformations of proteins within the cell
morphic fields...hmnnn.
more inclined towards it affecting the gradient potential, but it's speculaton. that article about the speciation gave me a whack too.
http://cbst.ucdavis.edu/
perhaps since all cells have electric potential, and electric appears to influence dna's expression, i'm thinking it's influence is mitochondrial. small thought.
i've misplaced the link to biophotonics discussion of cell division emitting light from the dioxyribonucleic acid. fasinating stuff.
rubber side down...
Dude, im baked as fuck at the moment, and this just RAPED my mind! Imagine how many extinct species could be re-introduced, wonder what an Eagle, would turn into (Jurrasic Park Anyone???)! While that may be a while off, atleast its pretty cool knowing we can bring out some of the landrace in our hybrids of today...
superlative it would be, my friend...welcome.
i was hoping for consensual entertainment tho....
the two coiled plants have been moved under 400 hps and flipped. stretch is on, eyeballing them methinks they've hit a meter tall...pics next time.
you're welcome here...wouldn't be a party without yas...
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mrrangz
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http://www.rexresearch.com/ebner/ebner.htm
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http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bem.2250080102/abstract
Keywords:
We previously demonstrated that exposure of salivary gland cells of the dipteran, Sciara coprophila, to either asymmetrical or symmetrical changing magnetic fields results in an increase in the incorporation of radioactive uridine into RNA. The present report is an analysis of the grain count distribution over the X chromosome of Sciara in transcription autoradiograms following exposure of the salivary gland cells to two pulsed magnetic signals and a 72-Hz sine wave signal. The results show augmented uptake of 3H-uridine into nascent RNA chains following short exposures of the cells to magnetic fields. Transcription is augmented in previously active loci, as well as at chromosome regions that are not detectable as active in control cells. The quantitative pattern of RNA synthesis in transcription autoradiograms is hypothesized to be signal specific on the basis of differences in grain counts over significantly labelled chromosome sites.
for whomever is interested.
Keywords:
- magnetic fields;
- transcriptional increases;
- polytene chromosomes
We previously demonstrated that exposure of salivary gland cells of the dipteran, Sciara coprophila, to either asymmetrical or symmetrical changing magnetic fields results in an increase in the incorporation of radioactive uridine into RNA. The present report is an analysis of the grain count distribution over the X chromosome of Sciara in transcription autoradiograms following exposure of the salivary gland cells to two pulsed magnetic signals and a 72-Hz sine wave signal. The results show augmented uptake of 3H-uridine into nascent RNA chains following short exposures of the cells to magnetic fields. Transcription is augmented in previously active loci, as well as at chromosome regions that are not detectable as active in control cells. The quantitative pattern of RNA synthesis in transcription autoradiograms is hypothesized to be signal specific on the basis of differences in grain counts over significantly labelled chromosome sites.
for whomever is interested.
Dabstronaut
New member
Fascinating! It makes you wonder if the morphological change from indica leaves to sative like leaves seen is in fact an example of the "Ebner Effect". Indica evolved after Sativa right? (Indica is a subspecies of C. Sativa, not it's own species). Though I guess this claim warrants more research. Anyways, it would be interesting to see if the plant in fact grows taller, takes longer to flower, and if it would suddenly have a sativa like high.
Found this article describing the methods of the Ebner effect (slightly more credible, than a darn youtube video :lol:
http://www.quantum-seeds.com/Electrostatic Treatment.pdf
It also seems that Quantum seeds has been doing some of it's own research (although none finished):
http://www.quantum-seeds.com/Projects.shtml
Lastly not to question your results, but do you have any pictures of the leaves on the plants themselves? Perhaps also a before after of the same plant? As far my skeptical mind is concerned they might as well have been pulled from another plant...
Found this article describing the methods of the Ebner effect (slightly more credible, than a darn youtube video :lol:
http://www.quantum-seeds.com/Electrostatic Treatment.pdf
It also seems that Quantum seeds has been doing some of it's own research (although none finished):
http://www.quantum-seeds.com/Projects.shtml
Lastly not to question your results, but do you have any pictures of the leaves on the plants themselves? Perhaps also a before after of the same plant? As far my skeptical mind is concerned they might as well have been pulled from another plant...
Dabstronaut
New member
Also, have you looked into a brix meter?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brix
Since brix levels are commonly used as a way of assessing plant health, and seemingly quite accurately portray nutrient intake it would be an interesting parameter to compare.
Note to wiki article: It should be mentioned that brix meters used by hobbyists (refractometers) basically measure total dissolved matter in the extracted plant liquid (including minerals etc.), not just sucrose levels.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brix
Since brix levels are commonly used as a way of assessing plant health, and seemingly quite accurately portray nutrient intake it would be an interesting parameter to compare.
Note to wiki article: It should be mentioned that brix meters used by hobbyists (refractometers) basically measure total dissolved matter in the extracted plant liquid (including minerals etc.), not just sucrose levels.
