organic cal mag?

[BugJar]

I don't like using store purchased liquid nutrients but I have been struggling with some calmag issues lately on my OG

does anyone have any recommendations on organic Calcium or magnesium?

Thanks

 

[huarmiquilla]

howdy BugJar

how you do?
respect

with respect to organic form to being calcium perhap you to enjoy calcium carbonate
such and such oyster shell
similar within much mollusc

with respect to natural form to being mineral perhap you to enjoy magnesium sulfate
such and such epsom salt

indeed lovely thinks with respect to liquid nutrient
such and such cost to water

respect

positive vibrations

 

[Gascanastan]

I don't like using store purchased liquid nutrients but I have been struggling with some calmag issues lately on my OG

does anyone have any recommendations on organic Calcium or magnesium?

Thanks

Top dress with high quality EWC...work this into the surface of the soil as you water. Considering there aren't any massive imbalances in your soil,this should turn it around in 3 days.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

 

[BugJar]

Top dress with high quality EWC...work this into the surface of the soil as you water. Considering there aren't any massive imbalances in your soil,this should turn it around in 3 days.

this is solid advice I have been top dressing a bit but perhaps I should be more diligent.


I have been having serious ongoing issues with some recent additions to the garden and I am sincerely grateful to have such a great resource for my medicine

the frustration with this SFV cut I received has me ready to 86 the strain. Came with powder, quickly yellowed and has remained poor for over a month now. first world problems I guess

 

[BugJar]

I ended up potting up to a larger pot with some fresh fertile soil and topdressed EWC.

if that wasn't enough I found some Biomin cal and biomin mag.

maybe I can pull this thorn out of my side

 

[Fly by Night]

Organic, and Kush. You can't go wrong homie!

 

[RespectGreen]

I always like general organics c/m.... Haven't used it in awhile, but its solid stuff... Dunno how "organic" it really is though.

 

[BugJar]

I think the GO has EDTA in it.

I found some stuff suitable for organic farming...good enough for me I guess

 

[ClackamasCootz]

BugJar

There's no need for 'cal-mag' products when you are using viable thermal compost or vermicompost. None.

I add 1/2 cup which is 8 tablespoons of Crab meal (Calcium Carbonate - CaCO3) to 1 cubic foot of my potting soil which is 'something like' 1 tablespoon per gallon. That's it.

You have OMMP at the bottom of your posts so you must live in Oregon. No one in Oregon has to play the grow store mythology about 'cal-mag lockout' at all with the products you have available to choose from that's up & down the I-5 Corridor.

If Portland makes sense to drive to you could buy 95% of everything that you need at one store - a legitimate organic farm supply. They don't sell lights, pumps or anything along those lines. They sell organic materials so that you can mix your own soil and not have to resort to products that will set your garden back and cause problem after problem.

You can mix 4 c.f. of premium potting soil for $4.25 a cubic foot. The amendments that you would need, i.e. kelp meal, crab meal and Basalt rock dust will be about $2.45 per cubic foot and most of that is the Basalt rock, i.e. $.55 per lb and you would use 2 lbs. per c.f.

You're at $6.70 a cubic foot.

CC

 

[huarmiquilla]

howdy ClackamasCootz

how you do?
respect

am keen to ask to you preference with respect to crab meal
such and such variety to crab
similar
environment such and such variety to thrive within
such and such unique ocean environment

indeed crab to contain chintin similar calcium carbonate
rather to mollusc am keen to you preference such and such choice to crab meal with respect to CaCO3

much respect you thinks

positive vibrations

 

[YosemiteSam]

I would be curious why you think you have a Cal Mag issue? Cal Mag generally implies Ca, Mg and N...are you saying you are short on all 3? I find that highly unlikely.

Also what is your base mix?

It is my crazy ass opinion that thinking Cal Mag is going to lead to far more problems than it will ever solve. It is all about balance (or microbes if your cec is high enough). If you apply all three elements and drive one too high then prepare to chase your own tail the entire grow.

I grow OGs right alongside sativas with the exact same mix...I have run them a little short on N, but never had a Cal Mag problem

 

[ClackamasCootz]

howdy ClackamasCootz

how you do?
respect

am keen to ask to you preference with respect to crab meal
such and such variety to crab
similar
environment such and such variety to thrive within
such and such unique ocean environment

indeed crab to contain chintin similar calcium carbonate
rather to mollusc am keen to you preference such and such choice to crab meal with respect to CaCO3

much respect you thinks

positive vibrations

huarmiquilla

Crab meal is produced in 3 regions in the USA depending on the time year - Alaska, the Gulf States and the Mid-Atlantic region.

Lobster shell meal comes out of New England and Shrimp meal is primarily out of the Gulf States and there is some minor amounts out of the Pacific Northwest - very minor amounts.

The levels of Calcium Carbonate in Crab meal is identical to Oyster shell powder (pure Calcium Carbonate), Clam shells and other mollusks - even fresh-water varieties.

The amount of Chitin in shrimp, lobster and crab shells is actually a very small amount . It's main benefit is the Calcium Carbonate. The Chitin is an 'extra' and thankfully you don't need much Chitin to reap the benefits of insect suppression.

CC

 

[MrSterling]

86! Looks like we got a food service worker guys .

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Hold the pickles
Hold the lettuce
Special orders don't upset us

All we ask is that you let us
Have it your way!

 

[ClackamasCootz]

wrong thread....

 

[BugJar]

86! Looks like we got a food service worker guys .

glad to say i've been out of that game since my 20's some of the vernacular stuck though

I'm blessed to work an organic farm for a living

and what the fuck was that about anyway do you make a habit of belittling people for their job?

super classy. I wonder how many patients have been alienated from this website by shitty comments like that.

keep up the good work

 

[BugJar]

I would be curious why you think you have a Cal Mag issue? Cal Mag generally implies Ca, Mg and N...are you saying you are short on all 3? I find that highly unlikely.

Also what is your base mix?

It is my crazy ass opinion that thinking Cal Mag is going to lead to far more problems than it will ever solve. It is all about balance (or microbes if your cec is high enough). If you apply all three elements and drive one too high then prepare to chase your own tail the entire grow.

I grow OGs right alongside sativas with the exact same mix...I have run them a little short on N, but never had a Cal Mag problem

Most signs at this point are saying cal mag. I have been vegging longer than usual and this issue has been popping up

my base for vegging is light. it's roots organic that I amend with kelp meal, ewc glacial rock dust and mycos. it is normally enough to get through veg nice, green, and healthy. however I have been running a bit longer in veg this run and the problems just keep on coming.

when I get her into my hotter flowering soil she is LUSH. so it pretty much points to something being unavailable

every single other type I have is doing well except I am facing similar problems with headband but it seems to just be very N hungry

I'm sure it is actually indicative of a greater problem but I am just trying to deal with it short term while adjusting my veg mix for next time maybe some alfalfa and a bit of this oyster shell

 

[BugJar]

BugJar

There's no need for 'cal-mag' products when you are using viable thermal compost or vermicompost. None.

I add 1/2 cup which is 8 tablespoons of Crab meal (Calcium Carbonate - CaCO3) to 1 cubic foot of my potting soil which is 'something like' 1 tablespoon per gallon. That's it.

No one in Oregon has to play the grow store mythology about 'cal-mag lockout' at all with the products you have available to choose from that's up & down the I-5 Corridor.

If Portland makes sense to drive to you could buy 95% of everything
You can mix 4 c.f. of premium potting soil for $4.25 a cubic foot. The amendments that you would need, i.e. kelp meal, crab meal and Basalt rock dust will be about $2.45 per cubic foot and most of that is the Basalt rock, i.e. $.55 per lb and you would use 2 lbs. per c.f.

You're at $6.70 a cubic foot.

CC

Like I said I don't like using grow store anything really but desperate times call for desperate measures

Portland is about a 6 hour drive from me but luckily in southern oregon I can get whatever I need very inexpensive and easy

I wish I was able to use my compost in my indoor garden but I have a very large veggie garden that uses up more than I can even make.
I also had to scrap my vermicompost setup when moving to the west coast a few years back and haven't started one since. It quickly working it's way up the list however.

so in lieu of my own compost is there any retail compost that is worth anything? I was using GO ancient forest but it always seemed pretty weak and I don't really like the looks of the garden and bloome junk

obviously quality EWC aren't too hard to come by.

I do make regular mixes of soil so I am aware of the benefits but like I mentioned I use a hotter blend for flowering that I pot into later and it has yet to be anything less than stellar.

I have been growing for what seems like a short 10 years and this is BY FAR the biggest struggle I have faced in cannabis or any plant for that matter.

If my frustration is clouding my judgement let me know

 

[huarmiquilla]

howdy ClackamasCootz

how you do
respect

am keen to think indeed variance with respect to CaCO3 within mollusc to shellfish
such and such variance minimal
similar scale to such value depend to perspective

within mollusc various species more constant 90%+ reduce analysis with respect to CaCO3
such trend with respect to various region to analysis such and such pelecypod, scaphopod, amphineuran, gastropod, cephalopod
much within such and such 98-99% CaCO3

within crustacean such and such shellfish to crab to shrimp various species not with respect to barnacle
such to think barnacle much similar CaCO3 to mollusc
within shellfish such trend with respect to various region to analysis such and such species crab to shrimp to lobster
such variance 30%-80% reduce analysis to CaCO3
indeed much within such and such 75%-80%
similar
much shrimp such and such chloridella empusa to crago dalli to illustrate less CaCO3 species analysis

within lobster much variance within preference to analysis
such and such claw to total
similar
age to lobster
indeed within more youth lobster much CaCO3 to compare to lobster within more experience to being

such to think analysis with respect to much species within earth
within each species variance with respect to environment
similar with respect to unique environment to bat cave to excrement
similar with respect to unique environment to seabird diet to guano

unique environment to species within marine to freshwater much variance
within earth constant to change....hehehe
such to think much species such and such mollusc to crustacean variance within much variable
such and such CO2, temperature, such and such

perhap indeed crab to shrimp meal much normalize within industry
indeed variance much slight indeed perhap much great
to depend within perspective
indeed am alien within such industry
such to think industry not total with respect to total within

positive vibrations to you and yours