Cinnamon, Ant's and our plants...

[yortbogey]

question?
I am currently using cinnamon for ant control around my patio...
my daughter is crawling, and i am avoiding all chems....

this time of year in my dry climate the little brown ants are attracted to any water source....

the cinnamon keeps them off the patio and from forming colonies in cracks.....
but alas i noticed a few running across sum old door ladies...on the soil surface of a few potted headband clones....


so what would be the impact of using the same cinnamon powder on my soil to deter the little phrocker's.....

anybody got the yes/or no on cinnamon and MJ plants?

 

[Neo 420]

I'm not sure on the cinnamon but just about any of the recipes in the link will work..

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=258619

 

[ClackamasCootz]

yortbogey

To give you a helpful answer you'll need to check the label on your cinnamon. Prior to the 1960's, Vietnam was the world's main source of true Cinnamon (Cinnamomum verum) and that industry got caught up in international politics resulting in the USA banning this spice originating from Vietnam. What replaced it was Cassia (Cinnamomum cassia) which is closely related but contains far less of the active compounds and therefore flavor.

About 10 years ago (more or less), the USA lifted the ban on true Cinnamon which caused a few problems for home cooks because if you were using a recipe that called for 'Cinnamon' and you used this true version the dish would almost be unpalatable. At the minimum you have to cut the amount in half that's called for in the recipe.

Today this is usually labeled something like 'Saigon Cinnamon' or even 'Vietnam Cinnamon'. Here's a book at Google Reader that is free to read online but you can't download it Cinnamon & Cassia: The Genus Cinnamomum and it's only a very few pages.

The usual plant-based insecticides and fungicides are listed: Eugenol, a-Pinene, B-Pinene, Limonene, Camphene and several others. Either one will give you a powerful pesticide but equally important are the fungicide compounds that are present. In the orchid world Cinnamon is used for fungus gnats and other container-grown plants.

I would suggest that you pick-up a couple of color spot plants at Home Depot and run some tests. I don't believe that you'll have any problems as the majority of these compounds are found in Mint plants, several trees, etc. and in particular Lavender, Rosemary, Peppermint, Spearmint, Cambodian Cilantro, true Cilantro (Coriander) and another 100+ plants from the Mint group with some having higher levels than others obviously.

Ed Rosenthal's Zero Tolerance products use Cinnamon Oil as the active ingredient - a fungicide and a pesticide.

HTH

CC

question?
I am currently using cinnamon for ant control around my patio...
my daughter is crawling, and i am avoiding all chems....

this time of year in my dry climate the little brown ants are attracted to any water source....

the cinnamon keeps them off the patio and from forming colonies in cracks.....
but alas i noticed a few running across sum old door ladies...on the soil surface of a few potted headband clones....


so what would be the impact of using the same cinnamon powder on my soil to deter the little phrocker's.....

anybody got the yes/or no on cinnamon and MJ plants?

 

[al-k-mist]

we use limonene for insect control, floor cleaning, dishes, etc. and certain trichocereus extractions are allegedly using limonene.
our son is now crawling at about 420 miles per hour, sometimes. so we have to keep stuff up, put away, we sure dont want to worry about him biting something cleaned with 'china#1chemicalsupplyshit' chems.
as an aside, CC sure knows cooking stuff too. my ol lady put the 'bigga' (the dough for baguettes) in the fridge, as CC suggested in another thread, overnight, and baked em in the morning. WOW. great flavor, and a new technique she is using a lot now
even used it on calzone and pizza dough. awesome as fuck

 

[They]

We got RIFA down here in the south. Red imported fire ants, invasive with no predators. I know of no substance organic or synthetic that kills them. Sure the baits keep them at bay for a while but killing a colony just seems to create a power vacuum for neighboring colonies. Crazy part is they forage for stuff to feed to the young larva and eat what they excrete. So if you disturb their mounds many will attack and some will grab an egg and haul ass in a long line taking their food and young all in one package. I stood in a pile while on shrooms back in the day not the best of times. Good luck. Oh and I think they love blood meal.