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Does your emotional state symbiotic with the feeling people get using your product?
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There could be something happening on a quantum level between human and plant that influences outcomes...
I usually look in on my little dears early in the morning while I'm only in my underwear and a noted feature of my smoke is a sense of wild hilarity which morphs into a dread sense of horror.
Things that make you go Hmmmm.
I usually look in on my little dears early in the morning while I'm only in my underwear and a noted feature of my smoke is a sense of wild hilarity which morphs into a dread sense of horror.
Things that make you go Hmmmm.
treat your plants like beings, praise them, appreciate them. treat them with dignity because their lives are going to enrich yours, treat their lives as precious regardless if they are to be sacrificed, Treat them like a friend (pet or otherwise) you wish would never perish and then do a garden at the same time where treat them like "bitches" (common around here in talk and practice), treat them as if they are a vehicle to income, a simple means to an end, a thing that should simply subject to your will and tell me how much different the plants are .
How you grow, how you treat your plants, why you grow, the pride you take, the selections you make, your motivations for all the things you do all bias the equation and it also says alot about you as a human being
more profoundly than most people can imagine thus the incapacity to understand them
How you grow, how you treat your plants, why you grow, the pride you take, the selections you make, your motivations for all the things you do all bias the equation and it also says alot about you as a human being
more profoundly than most people can imagine thus the incapacity to understand them
here's crazy for you weird...
the psilocybin 'telepathy' thing works all the time... especially the more in tune you are to the other
I took a quarter while my wife stayed completely sober. Nearly 75% of our conversation didn't take place verbally yet we were on the same subject as words anchored on.
Synchronicity of thought/vibration in a temporal/closed system.
When you're high, change perspective and enter the 'Whole' system. Answers come telepathically as you seek honestly.
I think about this everyday in a general context. People can only imagine as far as they have seen or been shown. Shallowness of understanding.
It's like looking at an object in full display of light and concluding judgement on what you can see. There is no consideration of the 'shadows' or unseen aspects before evaluation.
So let's try an experiment.
Go sit on the train tracks and 'vibe' the train into passing through you. Don't forget the 'shadows'.
We'll wait.
Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof before they can reasonably called fact, otherwise be content with burning witches.
Go sit on the train tracks and 'vibe' the train into passing through you. Don't forget the 'shadows'.
We'll wait.
Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof before they can reasonably called fact, otherwise be content with burning witches.
I think it's more like people who feel love for their plants are more likely to take extra steps to ensure they live the best possible life (spending more time with them, buying expensive additives, etc), followed by the best possible death, will end up with an end product that those who consume it will love. The same will be true of the inverse (think commercial weed grown with no care only desire for profit).
Hippy bullshit aside, there are logical, realistic reasons for something like this if you ask me
Hippy bullshit aside, there are logical, realistic reasons for something like this if you ask me
my honest perspective would be different. the 'visible' aspect is that its a train passing by high speed, whatever, you can evaluate. the 'shadow' for me in this example would be the 'emancipation' offered through the death of the train collision. life is sacred, we can agree. how about the inverse, its unpreferable for some but its just as sacred.
the 'shadows' wouldn't be some metaphysical variable as you tried to lead to here, but your reasoning posits fear of death to make it seem rhetorical
Anybody who says Botany of Desire is pretty basic stuff, better be pretty well published, and say it in a reasonable way. Otherwise whatever you say sounds kinda silly, considering that Michael Pollan is a multiple time best selling NON-FICTION author writing about science.
A lovely strawman.
Unfortunately, he wouldn't be able to vibe the train away either.
The same as you.
Sorry.
How you grow, how you treat your plants, why you grow, the pride you take, the selections you make, your motivations for all the things you do all bias the equation and it also says alot about you as a human being
more profoundly than most people can imagine thus the incapacity to understand them
Weird,
Do you present this statement as a hypothesis for consideration or as an unquestionable fact and that those who may not share your faith simply lack a spiritual understanding of well known principles of botany?
If the latter, if Jeffrey Dalmer grew weed, what would you want to eat when munchie time kicked in?
Isn't this like claiming blueberry kool-aid will make your plants taste like blueberries?
Ya just gotta believe?
By logical extension, out of ten samples of weed , you could tell me about the mind set of each grower?
Seems a bit ...um, farfetched.
I can understand you're wanting this to be true but that is much different then claiming it is.
more profoundly than most people can imagine thus the incapacity to understand them
Weird,
Do you present this statement as a hypothesis for consideration or as an unquestionable fact and that those who may not share your faith simply lack a spiritual understanding of well known principles of botany?
If the latter, if Jeffrey Dalmer grew weed, what would you want to eat when munchie time kicked in?
Isn't this like claiming blueberry kool-aid will make your plants taste like blueberries?
Ya just gotta believe?
By logical extension, out of ten samples of weed , you could tell me about the mind set of each grower?
Seems a bit ...um, farfetched.
I can understand you're wanting this to be true but that is much different then claiming it is.
look at how a person treats their own dog, their kids, their work and their material possessions and you will understand the type of human being that person is. They are a reflection of that person
Now apply the same dynamic to people who grow, take a good look at their work, and you will see a reflection of that same person's choices, actions and desires manifested in their work
I can buy the first part to an extent, but the second part of claiming as FACT the ability to read some mystical mojo from a nugget in a bag and you can know a growers 'desires' and anyone who can't is somehow deficient in reading some cosmic vibe is, quite frankly, bullshit of the highest order.
How do you know you're not projecting your assumptions on that poor innocent nug?
You can believe it, feel it's true, cherish the idea but you cannot pretend to be an authority and call it a demonstrative law of nature WITHOUT PROOF.
It's no different then claiming pixies are real but only you are enlightened enough to see them.
I call bullshit on your unequivocal statement of fact. It is simply unbelievable half-baked hippie sophistry. I oughta know. I was around for the original versions.
Sorry to be a buzzkill but there it is.
How do you know you're not projecting your assumptions on that poor innocent nug?
You can believe it, feel it's true, cherish the idea but you cannot pretend to be an authority and call it a demonstrative law of nature WITHOUT PROOF.
It's no different then claiming pixies are real but only you are enlightened enough to see them.
I call bullshit on your unequivocal statement of fact. It is simply unbelievable half-baked hippie sophistry. I oughta know. I was around for the original versions.
Sorry to be a buzzkill but there it is.
your doubt is not a buzz kill but your expression of it leaves something to be desired. Your turning the definition to be super natural when what I said is that there is a PROFOUND amount of information to be had if you look hard enough
couple that with an understanding of human nature and the grower mentality and yes you can profile a person based on their weed
you want to turn it into pixie dust and hippies speak because that is where your mind goes when you look at my avatar and think on my words
that is all on you
now let's see if you have been around as long as you claim tell me if you cant tell these things from a sample of weed you get from another grower
is it a commercial strain?
is it hand groomed?
is it machine groomed?
is it packaged in a bag?
is it packaged in a jar?
is it packaged in another type of container?
is it a strain with pronounced bag appeal?
is it a strain with a pronounced medicinal effect?
is it a strain with a pronounced smell?
is is a strain with a pronounced taste?
is it a indica?
is it a sativa?
is it a hybrid?
is it grown organically?
is it indoor?
is it outdoor?
is the strain unique?
is the strain bred by the grower?
is it the grower's favorite strain?
that is just some stuff off the top of my head maybe you can sit and ask yourself what answers to those questions might tell you about a fellow grower if anything at all
What does all of that malarkey have to do with the rainbow and unicorn mysticism you preach about? (but when confronted on you hop back to logical stuff explained by science)
Me thinks someone just wants some attention.
Nothing worse than a hippy screaming "look at me"!
Weird, you have excavated yourself a hole, and the more you say the more evident it seems that you are unable to climb out, speaking metaphorically of course. This concept of understanding human nature though looking at/smelling/smoking a plant they grew is preposterous and is blatantly pseudo-science to anyone with any formal understanding of the topic at hand..
just because you don't find any of those telling about a person doesn't mean I don't
here are just a few examples off the top of my head
first the obvious, a person who grows for him/herself has a different set of motivations and criteria than a person who grows for others.
A person who grows commercial cropper strains tend to have strong financial motivations. People who are money orientated are different from people driven by other motivations.
A person who grows medical strains has medicinal motivations as well. If they are care taking others, or if they themselves have a medical infirmary they are motivated by different factors. Care takers put it on the line for compassionate reasons, those with infirmaries do it for relief. People caring for others and themselves are different than those growing for the money.
A person who grows an indica for medicinal purposes is looking to abate anxiety or pain, while someone with depression or add will choose a sat or a sat hybrids.
a person who grows and enjoys an indica for recreational purposes tends to have a different motivators than those who enjoy sativas for recreational purposes.
In fact many people don't appreciate the sativa high or influence because they are on pharmaceutical drugs (opiates and benzos) and thus can only appreciate a body high. Something you don't often see discussed but I know of people who use it as a "test" to see how clean you really are (off of modern hard drugs and pharmaceuticals). They also act as catalysts with other psychedelics exponentially changing the experience. You can bet these all become factors in understanding a bit more about a person. Not the experience itself but what they look for in the experience is telling about who they are.
people who grow low odor strains to avoid trouble are motivated by fear, they find the peace of mind of tangible value. Stress management is part of their world as is the importance of such.
people who grows for taste and flavor over pure potency tend to enjoy the social aspects of smoking while people who grow for pure potency tend to focus on the smoking experience, the effect you get when you smoke. People who are focused on social aspects are not the same as those who seek the most powerful smoking experience.
a person who takes meticulous time trimming, jarring and curing that exceeds relative market value is a tell that a person put importance into quality. A person who focus on quality tends to be discriminating.
for every choice for every action there is a motivating factor and the motivation of a grower becomes a tell of their wants and desires and thus gives details on them as a person
just like I know my trolls do not have either the intellectual wherewithal or the same real life experience to look back at all the other growers weeds they have sampled over their decades of growing and sharing to be informed enough to come to some of the same conclusions
here are just a few examples off the top of my head
first the obvious, a person who grows for him/herself has a different set of motivations and criteria than a person who grows for others.
A person who grows commercial cropper strains tend to have strong financial motivations. People who are money orientated are different from people driven by other motivations.
A person who grows medical strains has medicinal motivations as well. If they are care taking others, or if they themselves have a medical infirmary they are motivated by different factors. Care takers put it on the line for compassionate reasons, those with infirmaries do it for relief. People caring for others and themselves are different than those growing for the money.
A person who grows an indica for medicinal purposes is looking to abate anxiety or pain, while someone with depression or add will choose a sat or a sat hybrids.
a person who grows and enjoys an indica for recreational purposes tends to have a different motivators than those who enjoy sativas for recreational purposes.
In fact many people don't appreciate the sativa high or influence because they are on pharmaceutical drugs (opiates and benzos) and thus can only appreciate a body high. Something you don't often see discussed but I know of people who use it as a "test" to see how clean you really are (off of modern hard drugs and pharmaceuticals). They also act as catalysts with other psychedelics exponentially changing the experience. You can bet these all become factors in understanding a bit more about a person. Not the experience itself but what they look for in the experience is telling about who they are.
people who grow low odor strains to avoid trouble are motivated by fear, they find the peace of mind of tangible value. Stress management is part of their world as is the importance of such.
people who grows for taste and flavor over pure potency tend to enjoy the social aspects of smoking while people who grow for pure potency tend to focus on the smoking experience, the effect you get when you smoke. People who are focused on social aspects are not the same as those who seek the most powerful smoking experience.
a person who takes meticulous time trimming, jarring and curing that exceeds relative market value is a tell that a person put importance into quality. A person who focus on quality tends to be discriminating.
for every choice for every action there is a motivating factor and the motivation of a grower becomes a tell of their wants and desires and thus gives details on them as a person
just like I know my trolls do not have either the intellectual wherewithal or the same real life experience to look back at all the other growers weeds they have sampled over their decades of growing and sharing to be informed enough to come to some of the same conclusions
That is a nice collection you assumptions. Remember the old saying:
"When you assume, you make an ass of you and me"
Apply it to this situation. Feel how relevant that feels?
I'm not going list the reasons that I think your theory is absurd, I find this type of conversation akin to trying to explain atheism to a christian, frustrating and a waste of my time!
Others have already made the holes in your logic glaringly obvious, I don't need to reiterate their points.
You are evidently convinced that you can ascertain more about a person by looking at their herb than I could in a single session of psychoanalysis, which irks me due to it's arrogance. One or two of the assumptions you listed could be accurate, but you can't know for sure! Unscientific hippy bullshit, sorry!
But whatever, you think how you want to bro, it seems that nobody shares your point of view and you are trying to beat it home regardless..
for the negative rep, apologies for further emphasising the lack of logic in your opinion.
"When you assume, you make an ass of you and me" Apply it to this situation. Feel how relevant that feels?
I'm not going list the reasons that I think your theory is absurd, I find this type of conversation akin to trying to explain atheism to a christian, frustrating and a waste of my time!
Others have already made the holes in your logic glaringly obvious, I don't need to reiterate their points.
You are evidently convinced that you can ascertain more about a person by looking at their herb than I could in a single session of psychoanalysis, which irks me due to it's arrogance. One or two of the assumptions you listed could be accurate, but you can't know for sure! Unscientific hippy bullshit, sorry!
But whatever, you think how you want to bro, it seems that nobody shares your point of view and you are trying to beat it home regardless..
for the negative rep, apologies for further emphasising the lack of logic in your opinion.
That is a nice collection you assumptions. Remember the old saying:
Apply it to this situation. Feel how relevant that feels?
I'm not going list the reasons that I think your theory is absurd, I find this type of conversation akin to trying to explain atheism to a christian, frustrating and a waste of my time!
Others have already made the holes in your logic glaringly obvious, I don't need to reiterate their points.
You are evidently convinced that you can ascertain more about a person by looking at their herb than I could in a single session of psychoanalysis, which irks me due to it's arrogance. One or two of the assumptions you listed could be accurate, but you can't know for sure! Unscientific hippy bullshit, sorry!
But whatever, you think how you want to bro, it seems that nobody shares your point of view and you are trying to beat it home regardless..
The neg rep was because you attacked my person not my logic
tired of trolls with no agenda but to attack a persons "perceived" being
you can't list the absurdities of my theory because the examples I gave are valid and your toolbox isn't that big, either is your intellect
I suggest you prove me wrong on all accords
How did I "attack your person"?
Reread our previous interaction, I merely stated your theory was absurd and preposterous, using metaphor to aid me.
The way your responded to my last post makes me think you are feeling attacked, therefore getting defensive, which is detracting from the intellectual quality of conversation in this interaction.
You then go on to insult my intellect.
Know what hypocrisy means?
This further proves my point that attempting to reason with you is only going to lead to you insulting me and making assumptions, both of which rub me the wrong way.
I will try once more for luck:
The data you are claiming to be able to gather about people's characteristics, motivations, drives and personalities from looking at a bud they grew is more than I am able to gather in most of my inital 50min sessions with a client, though I'll admit a lot of that is rapport building, etc.
I hope you can see how silly you sound?
This is my last response to you on this topic, over and out.
