ROLS- Soil,Teas,IPM

[high life 45]

If you continue with botanical teas you will quickly get an eye for this, you may also catch the bug and try brewing all sorts of things

I already am looking at things around my property, lol ya caught me.

This is my kind of gardening.

What about juicing and diluting with water and using quickly? Is that uncharted territory beyond aloe? I have plenty of dandelion, and a bunch of other stuff im sure im not hip to yet.

This rols flu is really contagious.

 

[RanchoDeluxe]

Here's a list of things that can be found outdoors w/ which we can make teas:
Alfalfa,Dandelion,comfrey,stinging nettles, horsetail, burdock, the Mint family, parsley/cilantro, aloe, coconut.....There's more where that came from.

 

[high life 45]

I know that coot mentions Borage. I have some growing, but I like to keep it around for my bees.


I also found this table on compostjunkie dot com when looking for tea recipes....not sure how valid it is so Ill remove it upon request.

Type of Plant------------Type of Tea
Most brassicas----------Highly Bacterial
Vegetables, Grasses ---Moderately Bacterial
Berries------------------Balanced Bacteria to Fungi
Deciduous Trees -------Moderately Fungal
Coniferous Trees--------Highly Fungal

 

[high life 45]

Clackz Coco Recipie from xmobotx thread post 7
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=167487

" Here's mine..................

Base Mix

4x coconut coir
3x peat moss
1x vermiculite
1x perlite
1x pumice

Mineral Mix

1x Azomite
1x glacial rock dust
1x soft rock phosphate
1x NJ green sand
1x limestone

Compost Mix
1x local organic compost
1x Alaska humus
1x EWC

Amendment Mix

Several seed meals, fish meal, fish bone meal, kelp meal, neem meal, crab/shrimp meal, bokashi bran.

Lime Mix (as per Steve Solomon's COF formula)

1x dolomite lime
1x oyster shell powder
1x gypsum

Soil Mix - 5 gallons

3x base mix
1x compost mix
1 cup amendment mix
1.5 cups mineral mix
.25 cup lime mix

CC"

Heres a place where you can find man bulk ingredients mentioned.
http://concentratesnw.com/
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[dogfishheadie]

so it's safe to say that something is munching away at my beautiful girls fan leaves. haven't identified it just yet, started a day or two after I brought in some dandilion / misc foliage for mulching. just grabbed three heads of cilantro and plan to use the recipe on the first page.


about how long will the gallon of final product store for? any other tips to get of the little bastards eating away at my ladies? no neem just yet, however thinking of ordering some this next paycheck, pretty sure this would have eliminated the problem if I had mixed into my original soil mix.

thanks!

 

[RanchoDeluxe]

Hey dawg! Can you identify what the pest is? That would sure help in determining what action to take. I haven't used a cilantro tea just yet...I have kept and stored apple cider vinegar/garlic/ginger extract over the entire winter. Stored it in the fridge. Make some and use it as a foliar and drench the soil w/ the leftovers if you are worried about it.

HiLife- How'd the dandelion/alfalfa tea work for ya? I made one last week and burned the girls a wee bit because I forgot to dilute it....still had praying leaves though....

 

[BlueJayWay]

After you soak the cilantro and dilute try to use immediately, i would avoid storing for more than a day or two, refrigerated.....Give extra to the yard plants, thats what i'd do and make a new batch each time.....i'll just buy the 'bunch' of organic cilantro if I don't have any.

I do cilantro tea foliars as part of my IPM and try to once a month if not twice...

 

[M.A.W]

I have kept and stored apple cider vinegar/garlic/ginger extract over the entire winter. Stored it in the fridge.

Mind if i ask how you use this combo(rates)?
And do you use it as mainly a fungicide or pesticide witand how are the results?

 

[RanchoDeluxe]

This should get you across the finish line without damaging or inhibiting the flowering process.

1. Take 6 cloves of fresh garlic (Sulphur) and peel. Put into a blender or food processor with a couple of cups of organic apple cider vinegar (Acetic acid & lactobacillus). Puree.

2. Add about 1" of chopped fresh ginger and puree that with the garlic mixture.

3. Put everything into a container and fill with the vinegar to hit 1/2 gallon. Let this sit for at least 2 days.

4. Mix 2 - 3 tablespoons of the strained vinegar mix to 1 gallon of water. Add 2 tsps. of Pro-TeKt (liquid silica) and the soap that CaptCheeze1 recommended.

Spray this on your plants at the end of the light cycle and let it sit through the off period. Check for results when the light come on the next cycle.

If it looks like this arrested it then follow-up in 4 or 5 days with another application just to be safe.

As CC1 pointed out, the regular use of liquid silica is very important to both prevent an outbreak as well as arresting an attack.

HTH

CC

Guess what? Another recipe from Coot. I use this more for a fungicide...I'm sure the garlic would deter alot of pests as well. It works about as well as neem and Ecosmart. I believe this recipe is actually part of Gil Caradang's work...but I may be wrong.

 

[M.A.W]

Thanks for that info man^^^!!

Guys mind if i drop some teas ive seen elsewhere online???
Ive tried a few and they have all worked great so far, theres way to many teas to try anyways but heres a few more to to play with....


Bacterial Tea

• 4 cups Earthworm Castings or other forms of bacterially dominated compost
• 2 tbsp. molasses or other complex liquid sugars (honey, agave, natural syrups,or fruit juices)
• .5 oz Soluble Kelp
• *1-2 oz. (2-4 tbsp.) liquid plant extract (made from comfrey, nettle, or dandelion)
• *.5 oz Fish Hydrolysate
• 4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water

Brew for 24 - 48 hours and apply to root or leaf zone; tea must be kept aerated until it is applied.

Balanced Tea (Bacteria to Fungi)

• 2 cups Earthworm Castings or other forms of bacterially dominated compost
• 2 cups Humus or other form of fungi dominated compost
• .5 oz Soluble Kelp
• .5 oz Fish Hydrolysate
• 1 oz Humic Acids
• *1-2 oz. (2-4 tbl.) liquid plant extract (made from comfrey, nettle, or dandelion)
• 4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water

Brew for 12 - 48 hours and apply within 72; tea must be kept aerated until it is applied.

Fungi Tea

• 4 cups Humus or mature fungi dominated compost
• 1 oz Humic Acids
• .5 oz Fish Hydrolysate
• .5 oz Soluble Kelp
• *1 tbsp. Rock Phosphate Powder
• *2-3 tbsp. flour (oat or wheat)
• 4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water

Brew for 24-48 hours and apply within 72; tea must be aerated up until it is applied. To increase the fungal biomass, treat compost with .5 oz kelp, .25 oz Fish Hydrolysate 24-48 hours before brewing.

Other Tea Blends
Guano Tea

• 4 - 8 tbl. Bat or Seabird Guano of choice
• *2 tbsp. complex liquid sugars (molasses, honey, agave, natural syrups,or fruit juices)
• *.5 oz Soluble Kelp
• 4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water

Brew for 12 - 48 hours; tea must be kept aerated until it is applied. Apply to root zone.

Alfalfa Tea

• 1 cup ground Alfalfa meal
• * 1 - 4 cups Earthworm Castings or mature compost
• *2 tbsp. molasses or other complex liquid sugars
• *.5 oz Soluble Kelp
• 4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water

Brew for 12 - 24 hours; tea must be kept aerated until it is applied. Apply to root zone. Alfalfa tea is good source of vitamins A and B; Folic acids, Amino acids, crude proteins, high Nitrogen(N), phosphorus(P), potassium(K), calcium(Ca), magnesium(Mg), sulphur(S), Manganese(Mn), iron(Fe), copper(Cu), boron(B), and zinc(Zn).

Liquid Plant Extract

• 5 Gallon Garden Tea Brewer
• Young Comfrey, Nettle, and/or Dandelion leaves
• 4-5galChlorine-free Water

Instructions: Fill a 5 gallon bucket (loosely) with chopped/ crushed young Comfrey, Nettle, or Dandelion leaves. Faster fermentation will occur if the stems and leaves are bruised. Fill the rest of the bucket with chlorine free water, cover, place in a shaded area, and brew for 2 weeks in warm weather (70 - 90% water temp) or 4-5 weeks in cool weather (50 - 70%). This mix can sit without active aeration and ferment with time. Warning! If making plant extracted teas without active aeration, teas will smell like an open sewer throughout fermentation and when finished. The end product will be a dark concentrated liquid fertilizer. After the fermentation period strain liquid and squeeze the remnants to extract as much juice as possible. Feed the solid wastes to your compost pile. Filter and store tea in a cool dark place or in refrigeration. All of the above listed plant extracts are an excellent stand-alone fertilizer for many annuals and perennials.

• Comfrey tea is a good source of vitamin A and C; calcium(Ca), phosphorus(P), potassium(K), along with many trace minerals.
• Nettle tea is good source of vitamins A, C, and K; calcium(Ca), magnesium(Mg), phosphorus(P), potassium(K), boron(B), bromine(Br), copper(Cu), iron(Fe), selenium(Se), silicon(Si), and zinc(Zn).
• Dandelion tea is a good source of vitamins A and C, calcium(Ca), and potassium(K).

Application: Filtered liquid extracts should be diluted to a tea color, at a rate of 1 tsp. tea extract to 1 gallon chlorine-free water. Plant extracts can be diluted at ratios up to 15:1 depending on maturity and phase of plant growth (1 part filtered extract to 15 parts water).

Ive been using kelp meal in place of soluble(liquid) kelp with no problems in the teas ive tried so far...

 

[RanchoDeluxe]

^^^^^^
I like it man. Where did ya find it?

 

[ClackamasCootz]

I found this coconut water at Costco today - Coco Libre Pure Organic Coconut Water. Certified Organic by USDA

It comes in a 4 x 1 liter pack for $11.99 - $12.00 for > 1 gallon.

I had a glass and it's has a very nice flavor. Definitely in the affordable category.

CC

 

[xmobotx]

man cootz i was just gonna say 'i got a can of exactly that in my fridge right now' but; i went to make sure it was that kind & lo/behold it's gone!

silly kids roll their eyes and joke about my organic kick then make off w/ my goodies when i aint look'n

 

[canna woop!]

haha nice, just mix the garlic in there for the plants and they'll get the idea

 

[bajangreen]

hey, ClackamasCootz good to see you around again the place ent the same without you. I see you went missing around the same time the IC4 mag run a piece on living soil, you didn't have anything to do with that did ya? lol

Am i correct in assuming you only have access to you young store bought coconut water right? I was wondering if you ever tried sprouted coconuts? I have found that sprouted coconut water though it's a smell you can never ever ever ever forget ever it works wonders for plant growth, a close second is the meat from the coconut it self, fermented.

I have been trying with coconut for a while. Here is a thread i did a while back on the one of its uses.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=29412

Tell me what you think. or anyone that works with coconuts it a special interest of mine.
on a side note there is a documentary about a indigenous people that use coconut to power their civilization from electricity to vehicles, i will look for it and post it if anyone interested, I am more interested in coconuts application as pertaining to marijuana cultivation though.

 

[RanchoDeluxe]

Damn Coot that's a good score. I don't use coconut as often as I should because I end up paying 2 bucks for a 16oz. can.

Here's a pic that shows what some of these recipes have done for me.

 

[canna woop!]

neat RD, i think i will try misting your garlic-ginger tea. Spotted some mite damage on a lower leaf last night. Is it really that important to add the apple cider vinegar? can I just use the ginger-garlic after a few hours of soak? do water temperatures matter much? just curious how much you have tinkered with this. thanks... Cann woope

 

[ClackamasCootz]

bajagreen

The IC4 article that mentions me was simply some posts that I had made. Payoso sent a couple of PMs to clarify a couple of minor points. I'll have to download this edition to a tablet and see what's up!

Around here, Coconut water either comes in a bottle whole young coconuts from ethnic markets, i.e. they're easy to find for about $2.75 which give you about 12 oz. of water. Coconut trees wouldn't do too well in this weather.

I've been using a mix of coconut water & aloe vera extract in veg which give me spectacular growth rates. Healthy growth rates meaning no goofy stretching just lots of leaves and strong branching. This combination is the best 'thing' that I have ever used - nothing comes even close.

It's not just above the soil where I'm seeing results - the root system takes off even pushing roots through the sides & bottom of the SmartPots fabric. Huge roots (diameter) near the top of the soil. It's pretty amazing.

CC

hey, ClackamasCootz good to see you around again the place ent the same without you. I see you went missing around the same time the IC4 mag run a piece on living soil, you didn't have anything to do with that did ya? lol

Am i correct in assuming you only have access to you young store bought coconut water right? I was wondering if you ever tried sprouted coconuts? I have found that sprouted coconut water though it's a smell you can never ever ever ever forget ever it works wonders for plant growth, a close second is the meat from the coconut it self, fermented.

I have been trying with coconut for a while. Here is a thread i did a while back on the one of its uses.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=29412

Tell me what you think. or anyone that works with coconuts it a special interest of mine.
on a side note there is a documentary about a indigenous people that use coconut to power their civilization from electricity to vehicles, i will look for it and post it if anyone interested, I am more interested in coconuts application as pertaining to marijuana cultivation though.

 

[RanchoDeluxe]

Canna woop- I use apple cider vinegar/ginger/garlic mostly as a fungicide. And Yes it is very important to use apple cider vinegar and its even more important that it is organic. That said, this wouldn't be my first choice for mites. For them I've had really good luck using Jaykush's lavender FPE. Copy/paste it up here if ya find it before I do.

 

[invocation]

Products I use often for IPM, nutes, etc:

I party with coco libre too but with all these powders I like them for storage purposes. Powder coconut is great too.


WELCOME BACK COOTZ!!!!!! I never did find a hobby.