My seeds haven't arrived yet, but I imagine Tom Hill's Deep Chunk is one?... Does anyone know of legitimate inbred lines available on today's seed scene?
Legit IBLs available today...?
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blue sonya ibl , chem dibl, sdibl, c99 , blueberrys , sour bubbles,, maybe some topdawg gear,, thats off the top of my head. probably many more.
not sure many would count the chem D and SD 'IBL's' as legit....
lets see, Power Plant, Bubblegum, Northern Lights, Skunk, DC yes, Original Haze, Herijuana.
there is probably a few more but not that many.
VG
lets see, Power Plant, Bubblegum, Northern Lights, Skunk, DC yes, Original Haze, Herijuana.
there is probably a few more but not that many.
VG
Yes blueberry and any of its off shoots like OTM and blue moonshine, were products of an IBL.
I'd say any of the older dutch Hindu Kush's, Sammies Jack F7, most of TH's strains. There is more out there but you really need to go thru the genetics and look at what strains have been developed by inbreeding plants from the same family.
Rezdogs Chem IBL and Sour D IBL arent real IBL's as they have at one point been outcrossed, IX'd BX'd and the like.
I'd say any of the older dutch Hindu Kush's, Sammies Jack F7, most of TH's strains. There is more out there but you really need to go thru the genetics and look at what strains have been developed by inbreeding plants from the same family.
Rezdogs Chem IBL and Sour D IBL arent real IBL's as they have at one point been outcrossed, IX'd BX'd and the like.
Difficult to know which are legit, unless people mention if they grew them out and found them to be true breeding?
From which seed company, you grew any?
dp= dutch passion fwiw
^thanx was getting confused DP sometimes means Durban poison!
Does anybody know about Mazar I sharif from Gypsy Nirvana collection it's a land race. I think from seed collected by Sam the skunkman. Is that true breeding?
Does anybody know about Mazar I sharif from Gypsy Nirvana collection it's a land race. I think from seed collected by Sam the skunkman. Is that true breeding?
dutch passion's duban poison is an ibl?
growhi
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ohh yes ................ one think you cant accuse dp of is there Durban not been pure ............ seeds grow like clones from any report iv seen and that artical in some pot magazine
inquest
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Landrace would not be true breeding in our terms. You will find many phenos there.
Peyote purple, VG's pre '98 Bubba S1's.... These would be fairly inbred, imo. Most of Ace's stuff(crosses) are becoming more inbred by the day. To extrapolate, Cannabiogen's offerings would be in the same boat. Tom Hills offerings have all been inbred to a point and are being preserved with statistically no further inbreeding.
Peyote purple, VG's pre '98 Bubba S1's.... These would be fairly inbred, imo. Most of Ace's stuff(crosses) are becoming more inbred by the day. To extrapolate, Cannabiogen's offerings would be in the same boat. Tom Hills offerings have all been inbred to a point and are being preserved with statistically no further inbreeding.
Verdant Green is taking the S1 project further planning an IBL I do believe. Tom Hill's offerings are also on my list!
There are actually very few on offer to the general public, so that we may produce our own f1 seed. Quite sad. The whole seed scene is about s1 name strain OG crosses or whatever the latest rapper is endorsing! Nuff said there are already several threads on that subject.
I remember Reeferman offered a couple IBLs with the view to letting people produce their own F1s in case the whole EU seed scene was ever shut down.
What about Mosca he has a C99 bx and an Old Time Moonshine, think it is F6?
I suspect that here are a lot of relatively stable inbred lines out there, even if they don't say IBL. That's particularly true of older strains that have been around for a long time. Kali Mist, Eldorado, Santa Maria, SSH, Skunk#1 & many others fit the bill, even if their creators don't say "IBL'.
There is nothing IBL about SSH, it's like the poster child for unstable poly hybrids. SSH has no pheno stability, grow an 18 pack and you will get 18 different plants, with flowering times into the 20 week range.
And Moses, if VerdantGreen was to work Bubba into an "IBL" it wouldnt be a true IBL, because there is no pure bubba kush male. It would be an "IBL" in the same sense that Rezdogs Chem and Sour D were "IBL's". I dont think with his tiny set up he could even run the numbers needed to find the properly pull that off.
A true IBL would use a male and female of the same strain, which would then be inbred.
And Moses, if VerdantGreen was to work Bubba into an "IBL" it wouldnt be a true IBL, because there is no pure bubba kush male. It would be an "IBL" in the same sense that Rezdogs Chem and Sour D were "IBL's". I dont think with his tiny set up he could even run the numbers needed to find the properly pull that off.
A true IBL would use a male and female of the same strain, which would then be inbred.
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Yeah good ole Skunk#1 also Northern Lights, bubblegum from serious seeds, pure power plant from Nirvana, herijuana and there is probably more, just thinking off the top of me head.
I am sure Dutch Passions Durban Poison is not an IBL, or a pure landrace. I don't even think it is a pure Sativa. I have grown 14 DP Durbans from seed(fem and reg) and they where far from uniform(or even decent quality). I suspect F-13 by DJ Short to be nearly IBL(f5?). I am currently making some of my own f2(f6?)seeds with a few F-13s to see how true breeding it really is. I'll let you know if it does prove to be a good true breeding IBL. Anyway good luck Moses.
if you by inbred line mean "will grow like clones from seed" there isnt really any IBL´s, if a strain is true breeding its useualy just 1 or 2 traits that breeds true, but after 15 some years of growing loads of strains and making alot of seeds for my self i havent seen anything i would call a true true breeding strain
I do alot of breeding with other plants besides cannabis (legal plants) and what we call IBL´s and F1´s in the cannabis world would never be accepted as such in the "real" world
I do alot of breeding with other plants besides cannabis (legal plants) and what we call IBL´s and F1´s in the cannabis world would never be accepted as such in the "real" world
growhi
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well you must be the exception to the rule i guess. and even within ibl popuations there will be quality difference and high difference , although less major than that !
and dont forget durban is known for its indica like growth its a very tight budded sativa !!
have you tryed durban grown under intense sun ???
cali or spain ect ? .......................... i dont think its ever the same under lights personaly
