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Marijuana Repeal Considered In Colorado

RetroGrow

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These people never give up. Now, they are trying to undo the legalization, even though 55% of voters supported it.

" Marijuana legalization could be going back to the ballot in Colorado — a prospect that infuriated pot legalization activists Friday.

The proposal for a marijuana ballot measure came as the House started debate Friday evening on bills to regulate and tax pot. One bill would state how pot should be grown and sold, and the other would tax recreational marijuana more than 30 percent.

A draft bill floating around the Capitol late this week suggests that a new ballot question on pot taxes should repeal recreational pot in the state constitution if voters don’t approve 15 percent excise taxes on retail pot and a new 15 percent marijuana sales tax. Those would be in addition to regular state and local sales taxes.
Lawmakers have only a few days left to finish work deciding how to regulate the newly legal drug.

Marijuana activists immediately blasted the proposal as a backhanded effort to repeal the pot vote, in which 55 percent of Coloradans chose to flout federal drug law and declare pot legal in small amounts for adults over 21.

“It’s clear that the intent … is to prevent marijuana from being legal and being regulated and being controlled,” said Mason Tvert, who led last year’s campaign to add recreational pot to the state constitution, which has allowed medical marijuana since 2000.

Sen. Larry Crowder, R-Alamosa, said the whole purpose of legalizing recreational marijuana was to raise money for education and other programs. “So if there’s no money, we shouldn’t have marijuana,” Crowder said.

A volunteer group that has been critical of proposed marijuana regulations, Smart Colorado, praised the effort to get rid of recreational pot without approval of the taxes.

A spokesman for the group, Eric Anderson, said in a statement that marijuana activists “sold the ballot issue to Colorado voters as a way to pay for state priorities like education, but increasingly it’s looking like it could be a net drain on the state budget.”
The marijuana measure approved last year won more votes than President Barack Obama, who carried the state. The pot measure directed lawmakers to come back to the ballot with a tax proposal, with much of the money going to school construction. Because of Colorado’s Byzantine tax laws, the recreational pot taxes can’t be levied until voters again sign off on them.

In Washington state, the only other place where voters last year approved recreational pot, the ballot measure set taxes at 75 percent, settling the question. Both states are still waiting to find out whether the federal government plans to sue to block retail sales of the drug, set to begin next year.

The Colorado repeal effort wouldn’t apply to medical marijuana, which voters approved in 2000.

Lawmakers from both parties have expressed worry this year that Colorado won’t be able to afford to give recreational pot the kind of intense oversight and regulation many expect. From labeling and potency standards to making sure pot taxes are collected, the regulatory scheme under consideration in Colorado wouldn’t be cheap.

The state House started debate Friday on the tax ballot question. The repeal provision, if it appears, would come later, likely when the pot tax shifts to the Senate.

Some lawmakers said Friday they doubt lawmakers would send pot legalization back to voters this year.

“That’s almost like saying to voters, ‘Vote for this, or else,’” said Sen. Cheri Jahn, D-Wheat Ridge. “I don’t think you threaten voters like that. When over 55 percent of the people vote for something, I think we have to respect that.”

Marijuana repeal debate could dominate the Legislature’s closing days. The path to repeal would be uncertain, but some lawmakers say it’s only fair to ask again if voters are willing to legalize pot and risk federal intervention in exchange for a tax windfall projected to exceed $100 million a year.

“I think that’s why the people supported it,” Crowder said.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/04/26/marijuana-repeal-considered-in-colorado-2/
 

MIway

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Geez, sounds like its cheaper to just keep locking people up. Then we can have inmates build the schools, and fill in for fired teachers we cant afford. In fact, it might just ne easier to jail all the kids vs building schools and paying teachers. now we'v got the govt thinking cap on
 

Mud Boy

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I'm not surprised. I don't know why anyone thought these pig fucker bastards would just lay down.
They cannot put Pandora back in the box.

No they can't, but that doesn't mean they won't try. And they might succeed in holding the lid down for while, so everyone needs to be prepared for a worst case scenario. Remember, it's only two states out of 50, we still have a looooong way to go. Gotta keep your eyes on the prize.
 

Hydro-Soil

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Sorry, but this cat is not going back in the bag.

They can bill and amend this to death but the number of growers in Colorado has already tripled at least. Not seeing people stopping once they've been given the go ahead. LOL

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:
 

Avinash.miles

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precisely the reason colorado passed a constitutional amendment instead of just legislating mmj in...

can't be done/won't be done
 

true grit

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"55% vote, i think we have to respect that." Ya no shit, i don't just think so- thats how its supposed to work. Talk about backwards ass politics. And no it wasn't passed on funding for education alone, it was passed under the auspice of adult consumption that is no different than ALCOHOL.
 

Hydro-Soil

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Yeah... 55% of the population that actually VOTED, were for cannabis.

I'm not registered to vote and I know HUGE numbers of cannabis users that are not registered to vote.

I'm registering to vote on a state level, just in case this comes to vote again. I encourage everyone in the state to do so.
Not interested in any fed voting though.

That 55% was a pittance of the real numbers. LOL

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:
 
Yeah... 55% of the population that actually VOTED, were for cannabis.

I'm not registered to vote and I know HUGE numbers of cannabis users that are not registered to vote.

I'm registering to vote on a state level, just in case this comes to vote again. I encourage everyone in the state to do so.
Not interested in any fed voting though.

That 55% was a pittance of the real numbers. LOL

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:

I burned my draft card....but kept the food stamps

This is PART of the reason marijuana/mmj gets treated like a redheaded stepchild.

What group of Americans get the best laws...

Senior citizens....and why...because they all vote

There is no excuse not to vote....I'm a convicted felon and I vote

They mail me a ballot... No standing in line... No stamp required for ballots
 

RetroGrow

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I burned my draft card....but kept the food stamps

This is PART of the reason marijuana/mmj gets treated like a redheaded stepchild.

What group of Americans get the best laws...

Senior citizens....and why...because they all vote

Ther is no excuse not to vote....I'm a convicted felon and I vote

They mail me a ballot... No standing in line... No stamp required for ballots

How do you do this? Same situation, and they won't send me a ballot. Maybe has to do with the state?
 
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Drift13

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How do you do this? Same situation, and they won't send me a ballot. Maye has to do with the state?
Each state has it's own rules on Felons & voting. My felony conviction was in Illinois. Just as soon as I was done with my paper and all the other BS that went along with it, I got all my "rights" :yay: back but one. :frown: Yep the right to own a firearm. If I would have been convicted where I live now it would have taken years and major hoop jumping to get any of my rights back.
So you need to go back to the state where you were convicted and see what their rules are. Good luck to ya.
 

xmobotx

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wow ~these people just really want to regulate what people can do w/ their own personal time/life
 

delta9nxs

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"pig fucker bastards" you forgot fascist nazi.

fascist nazi pig fucker bastards!

yet they will be the first to tell you that they believe in democracy!
 

RetroGrow

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Each state has it's own rules on Felons & voting. My felony conviction was in Illinois. Just as soon as I was done with my paper and all the other BS that went along with it, I got all my "rights" :yay: back but one. :frown: Yep the right to own a firearm. If I would have been convicted where I live now it would have taken years and major hoop jumping to get any of my rights back.
So you need to go back to the state where you were convicted and see what their rules are. Good luck to ya.

Hmm.....my case was Federal......
 

RetroGrow

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Maybe we should have a new vote on Sen. Larry Crowder, R-Alamosa,
since he no longer believes in honoring the voter's wishes.
 
S

Slip Kid

Sen. Larry Crowder, R-Alamosa...From a county that doesn't have Santa Claus, no wonder!! I hate that place, a black hole in the center of the best of everything, Mt Blanca on the east and Wolf Creek on the west.Unbelievable bible bangers.
 

Hydro-Soil

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Sen. Larry Crowder, R-Alamosa...From a county that doesn't have Santa Claus, no wonder!! I hate that place, a black hole in the center of the best of everything, Mt Blanca on the east and Wolf Creek on the west.Unbelievable bible bangers.

Definitely not getting MY vote. :moon:

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:
 

Jhhnn

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Lots of weasel words, obviously. Voters didn't go for A64 because of the tax revenue, but because enforcement of previous MJ laws was a farce, a waste of resources & unfair persecution of way too many Americans. The revenue is just gravy.

While they may be able to thwart retail sales for awhile longer, this won't affect the private growing aspects of A64 in the slightest. They're screwed, no matter how hard they fight it, because those provisions demand no state expenditures at all. No registration, no inspections w/o probable cause, nothing. Just grow 3 or fewer flowering plants + 3 or fewer non-flowering plants per household adult to be state legal. The smell of MJ growing or burning is no longer probable cause for a state level search warrant, because people have the Constitutional right to do both in the privacy of their homes. If the local authorities do obtain a warrant, they'll just have to go away if you're state legal...

Hell, I could sit out on my front porch & pass out joints to the adult passer-bys and state authorities would be powerless to stop me. Not that I'd do such a silly thing, because they'd rat me out to the DEA who might just bust me for being quite so uppity.

I'm pretty sure that the DEA won't be breaking private growers' balls, either, simply because of the sheer number of growers and the truly iffy nature of finding a jury to convict the so-called perpetrators. They depend heavily on state level cooperation, something they obviously won't get for low level federal offenders in Colorado.

I think that the Obama Admin is still sitting on the fence because Colorado & Washington haven't committed to what the voters wanted, at least not yet. If the legislatures fail to commit to it, then the Obamaites need not change or say much of anything. OTOH, if the legislatures go for it, endorse retail sales, that'll be a big impetus for them to allow state level experimentation free of federal interference. They sure as Hell won't lead, not faced with the current economic situation & Repubs' tendency to use anything as an excuse to go off about everything. They're thugs, extortionists, and have proven it time after time.

After all the years of Repubs raving about States' Rights, even their most ardent base would see through the hypocrisy in a heartbeat... if any State truly commits to licensing sales & production.
 
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