Critical+/Purps/GrandDoggyPurps 90 plant SOG

[negative37dBA]

Yes. Thats what Im looking for. I want mine to look like that before the flip.
Do you use FFOF soil? How long of a veg time before they look like that?
What size pots?
Thanx NEG! I dont mind you posting at all. Post away brother. Post away.
TYVM.

So I use a modified FFOF with extra peat, pearlite and vermiculite.
These were vegged for.....are you ready.....?.....70 days.
Now thats not normal. I had some timing issues. 25 days should be good depending on if they are under a HID or T-5.
I use 3.5 gallon pot size for flower.

 

[Alone]

My GrandoggyPurps' flowers are nice and hard. Very full. The calyx's are starting to swell.
The Critical+'s however are really fluffy and loose. I truly hope they harden up ALOT MORE when the calyx's swell.
It seems the GGoggyP's will finish before the C+'s. Wierd?
I can def expect atleast 30 ounces at minimum.
I noticed that I allowed the growbags to dry out to much between waterings, which seemed to have harmed the root systems on all the plants that the soil repelled the water on. Mostly the C+'s.
I think this was the problem: After watering a plant this week, I moved the top soil and seen where the really dry soil underneath, repelled the water to the sides of the bag, so most of this cycle, the plants roots were'nt able to really expand and overtake the soil fully.
There were very dry pockets in the soil. Ive never encountered this problem before, so death to plastic growbags indoors!
When they did get watered fully, the plants seemed overwatered from trying to wet the dry soil after the first watering. 5gln pots, here I come! Back home where I grow great trees. This is how I want my plants to look in the end except I want 10+ tops. This was with only 5 weeks veg from clone w/ no topping. If I topped the C+ 2x, the bottom branches would be tops. Ide have a nice full canopy of big, solid flowers.
Next run will be in 5gln pots. 6 weeks veg time under T-5's. Topped 2x. 20 plants under each 600w hps. 4W x 5L x 2 = (40plants)
Ill add Fox Farms vermiculite to the soil for oxygen intake and for nice, even water distribution and runoff. Cant wait to see what the C+'s can do this way ~

These yielded around 24g's dry apiece if I remember correctly.
I got around 9 ounces off 10 plants. Pic taken was 2 weeks before harvest. Start of flush.

 

[unspoken]

Too late now, but you could use a wetting agent if your soil is repelling water.

 

[Alone]

Yes. I heard/read that a drop of dishsoap does great for a wetting agent.
Next run will be awesome. This was my second run with C+. The GDogP's and Purps grew perfect.(except for the 3 Purps in "hot" bags). The C+'s are just hardening up at week 7. Everything will be harvested at week 9.
Im still happy with the outcome but I know next run will be better as I dial in the vegg technique for this stain.
I have 2 Cheesedog females (Im pretty sure) to try next run as well.

Ill be putting a big, gorgeous, perfect growing FUEL male at a friends house under 2 - 150w hps lamps to pollinate a perfect growing, squat, extra branchy, CHEESEDOG female.... and the C+. As soon as I take cuts they are going there to veg. for 8 weeks before the flip.
So Ill be getting an account on the bay and putting these beans up there when there ready.
"Critical Fuel" and "Gas Hog"... F1's.

 

[Alone]

The Purple Diesel's calyxs are so purple they are almost black! So pretty!
I wish it yielded better. Smallest yielder Ive ever seen in my life and the buds are so pretty and smell absolutely amazing. Im positive the bagseed mother I had was a CDSD.
So this plant is probably a CDSD x Purps and the smell is just blow your mind wicked good.
Like sour chemmy grapes with a strong ghani presence. MMMMM.
Please give me a seed or two. Please Lord.

Ive spotted 1 seed growing on a GdoggyP lower branch that was touching that Purps that got those 2 ballsacks.
Could still be a great cross. But its still only 1 seed. That seed would have to be blessed by God himself to be a keeper that is nanner free. (Chem D x Kens GDP) x BCBD Purps sounds really freekin good. We'll have to wait and see because Im def popping it!

 

[negative37dBA]

Ahem...Mr Alone will have Gas Hog & Critical Fuel seeds...we need to talk my friend.
You are talkng to a Diesel lover here.

 

[Alone]

Definetly my friend. Definetely.

 

[hereigrow]

All my GrandoggyPurps are yielding very well and there are no red hairs on any of them. So Im wondering if the hairs turned red on the C+'s and Purps because it was 82 degrees during the day and 79 degrees at night for the first 4 weeks.

I just turned my Can-Fan on last week, 24 hours a day. So I got my lamps closer now (10") and the temps are now 74*day / 68*night. I dont see any seed forming in the calyxs yet. (FINGERS CROSSED)
Hopefully the buds will get bigger and harden up the last 28 days with the temps down.
There are quite a few that will yield a 1/2 oz. There are also quite a few that will only yield 7 -10grams.
I'm expecting around 900 grams total. 32 ounces.

Next run will be much better. Im never using these black plastic grow bags again. I hate them. The edges dry out and its hard to water them and get the soil evenly wet, so the root systems suffer and get brown at the edges of the bag. Plus dry soil comes through thedrainage holes, leaving dirt on my gardens floor to blow around.
It is hard to take the plants out of the gardens middle, to bring them to the sink to water them, and its even harder putting them back and not bending the branches of the other plants. PITA!!! Ide rather water them right where they are.

If I filled the bags all the way to the tops instead of folding them half way down maybe this wouldnt of happened. Like basement grower said. I just like nursery pots way better now. I also like the buds better grown in 3 gallon pots with water catch trays. MUCH EASIER to water and bigger/better flowers.

Ya tgose bags suck I feel your pain, ill never use them again. They are 10 cents a piece thats why I used them. I found a nursery by me that i buy 3 gal pots from
Dirt cheap and i reuse them with no issues..funny u said this cause i was suprised at you using the plastic when you have so many plants to care for plus u were going to water each one in the sink...whoa boy pita ain't the word bro.
Looking stellar in there two thumbs up

 

[Alone]

Thank You hereigrow.
Ill never use them again. This crop took 10x more work than was neccesary because of those bags.
Last run, the C+'s were perfectly ready at day 57.
This time, they wont be ready until day 67.
Stupid bags. The buds arent gonna be as heavy and hard as the last grow either.
Good thing I got 99 of them.
I cant wait for the next run w/ 40 big plants in 3gln or 5gln pots w/ catch trays, vegged from clone for 42 days/6 weeks.
After this next crop, it will be 8 weeks veg while the plants are flowering.

 

[Alone]

UPDATE......

UPDATE......

Day 52 -
GrandoggyPurps ~

I actually like this strain more than the C+ as far as flower structure goes.
The smell is Candy ChemD. Like a sweaty armpit/fart jolly rancher.
The potency is hardcore. Get greedy with her and your lungs will explode because the smoke is so heavy.

 

[Alone]

Im gonna re-use the soil from these bags and use it for my outdoor crop of autos.
The soil will still be very heavy with organic nutrients because the roots never used most of it.
I realized I had 5gln bags and the guy charged me for 3 gln bags. I only filled them 3/4's of the way before wetting the soil for the first time so I had 3 gallons of soil in each bag. It takes 9 scoops with the same pan I used to fill the bags with, to fill the 3 gln pots to the tip-top. I used 9 scoops per bag. Thats pretty awesome. The plants were tighter together than they would have been with the pots. There is NO WAY I could have fit 99 3gln pots in there. Not under 2-600w'ers. LOL. So there was a +side to these bags.

I'm gonna have to do 1 more S.O.G w/ 2 gln pots this time, vegged for 3 weeks, and topped 1x because I didnt have the T-5 I needed to veg any clones. While those are flowering, Ill keep the next set of clones in veg for 8 weeks and LST the heck out of them.
Ill use 2 gallon pots for veg and LST, then T/P them into 5gln pots to flower. Im not sure if Ill use bamboo stakes or trellis netting yet.
With the C+, the buds get so heavy they can snap and bend/crink a bottom branch easily with no support.

 

[Alone]

Update....

Update....

PurpleCDSD bagseed plant~

Although its only at week 5, its an extremely small yielder. The smallest buds Ive ever seen! But dang does it smell wicked, wicked good.
This will be my own personal treat to indulge in. In the end....it was worth the space on the outside of my garden.
Im guessing 10 grams from this seed plant. The other has green flowers and its even a smaller yielder if you can imagine that!

 

[Alone]

UPDATE....

UPDATE....

Critical+ - Day 52

Flush begins in a few more days.

 

[negative37dBA]

Thank You hereigrow.
Ill never use them again. This crop took 10x more work than was neccesary because of those bags.
Last run, the C+'s were perfectly ready at day 57.
This time, they wont be ready until day 67.
Stupid bags. The buds arent gonna be as heavy and hard as the last grow either.
Good thing I got 99 of them.
I cant wait for the next run w/ 40 big plants in 3gln or 5gln pots w/ catch trays, vegged from clone for 42 days/6 weeks.
After this next crop, it will be 8 weeks veg while the plants are flowering.

8 weeks veg while the others are flowering. Now thats a good plan! Since I was forced to veg this current run for 70 days I see the benifit of long veg times. BIG yield. I have been thinking this exact same strategy. I will veg along with flower, of course seperate, for the whole time. Then when flowering is done you have large, multiple headed, even canopy plants ready to go that wil produce quite a yield.
Looking quite nice there Sir.

 

[Alone]

Update....

Update....

CHEESEDOG #1 - My favorite seedling topped 2x ~

Im gonna use this (??female??) to cross with the (M) Fuel on the next page.

 

[Alone]

Male FUEL....

Male FUEL....

This is the breeder MALE Im gonna use to pollinate the CheeseDog. (Im 80% sure the Cheesedog is a female. No pre-flowers yet but from experience Im guessing its a female)
FUEL (M)~

This Fuel is big and extremely vigorous. The Cheesedog is perfect and very branchy. Cant wait to see what these 2 do together!
HERE COMES THE "GAS HOG" !!!

 

[hereigrow]

Looks like a stud for sure! Look at the node structure on that haus, prob make some heavy yielding offspring....

 

[Alone]

Thats the goal with him.
The vigor of this male Fuel pheno crossed with the very branchy, perfect growing Cheesedog pheno would make for some heavy yielding plants.
The other male was abit more Diesel dominant according to its stretchier structure i.e: smaller leaves, looser internodes, and less branches. Although that one smelled better on the stem rub, I'm sure I can find some phenos with the structure and yield I want with the flavor and potency as well.

I pray that CheeseDog is a female. I got 3 males out of 4 so far. That would be a bummer if I got 4 males. If I did....Im still gonna use that perfect Cheesedog male to pollinate my pheno of Critical+ to make CCD aka Critical Cheesedog. ( CCD ) is Catholic School. LOL
(Big Bud x Skunk#1) x (Diesel#1 x Chem D).
Thats only if all are males. Il know for sure within a few days. If its a (f) like Im sure it is, its Gas Hog as planned.

 

[hereigrow]

Ya if that last cheesedog hasn't showed sex yet and the other 3 have , its prob your fem. Hope u get a nice pheno for your cross if it is fem. You should make the other crosses anyway , I love to experiment or pollen chuck as some peeps on here call it. Never know what you will end up with.

 

[Alone]

8 weeks veg while the others are flowering. Now thats a good plan! Since I was forced to veg this current run for 70 days I see the benifit of long veg times. BIG yield. I have been thinking this exact same strategy. I will veg along with flower, of course seperate, for the whole time. Then when flowering is done you have large, multiple headed, even canopy plants ready to go that wil produce quite a yield.
Looking quite nice there Sir.

I would have done that this time if I had the veg light to do it.
This time I will have all the T-5's I need to veg 40 plants for 8 weeks between crops. I was doing it like this before until my 600w MH ballast burned out.
My friend bought me a 4' x 4 bulb T-5 that I still owe him another 1/2oz from this crop.
I really love the T-5 now, way better than the MH for veg.
Much tighter nodes.
ALSO...I really believe that seed runs produce bigger, better plants with better yields. 8 weeks veg from seed might yield better than clones with 8 weeks veg time....What do you think NEG?