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The Golden Goat Show

TheStrainMan

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The Golden Goat Show

The goat is great summertime herb, perfect for daytime fun like music festivals, nature, and outdoor gardening.
 

TheStrainMan

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Day 2 of flowering. About to stake apart each main branch for utmost light penetration. It's all about the light, friends!
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Jibman

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Looking good. I have a few goats in the corner of my room at 7 weeks flowering. Mind if i take some pics later and share? The buds look nice for being so far off to the side. Says to me that they would yield big time if they were in the prime spots of my room. I got the cut last year. Its a nice hazy euphoric effect. Citrus/haze smell and taste.
 

Jhhnn

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Not being a medical patient, the closest I could get was goat wreck haze, and I'm holding that, working on getting dialed in before I try to do anything with it.

Should be good when I get there. Never smoked any. I'm interested because of the incredible smell, and because it's the fave strain of a very well medicated family friend. She's smoked many to their knees, then brought out the oil.... gone shopping while vaping in the aisles.

She knows her dope... I've been away from it for 25 years, so my opinion wouldn't count for much anyway. My tolerance is currently zero...
 

TheStrainMan

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Thanks for the pics, jib! Looking frosty!

And the goat wreck haze will be higher in thc than this one, and hazier, or coarse. I'd bet the straight up gg yields twice as much almost, if that matters to ya.
 

TheStrainMan

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Day 5... All staked apart and ready to absorb light. Lots of new shoots quickly sprout from every possible branching site, but I've been vigilantly clipping everything in the shade under the canopy; trying to keep 6-7 budding branches with no growth in total shade. I don't want any loose buds (larf), but only nuggetry for summer head stash, so all plant energy is focused on a handful of branches.

I rarely see this kind of vigor and vitality; with solid noticeable growth throughout the plant every day.

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Jhhnn

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Thanks for the pics, jib! Looking frosty!

And the goat wreck haze will be higher in thc than this one, and hazier, or coarse. I'd bet the straight up gg yields twice as much almost, if that matters to ya.

Good yield is never a bad thing, unless it's with plants that are unmanageable in the given space. So is potency, depending on what you want to do, the kind of head you want to have at the time. Observationally, and from accounts, the Goat has a clean, crisp head with warmth & sociability, along with the kind of potency where lesser pot-fiends need to be careful of the dosage. It's been described as an extreme sport high psychoactivity sort of med by medical users.

Coming back to MJ after many years' absence, it seems to be one of the kinds of smoke that one wants in a versatile headstash. It'll be nice to pick the kind of stuff I want to smoke from what I've grown. The occasions of getting high will be fairly rare for me until I retire at the end of the year, given random drug testing stupidity as a legally mandated condition of employment. Growing is a different matter, and I intend to have a nice stash & some interesting genetics when I get there. Interesting to me, anyway. I've started out with a couple of autoflowers for rapid results, then I'll move on to some supposedly easy strains like Satori. If I screw it up, I can always get more seeds. I don't want to crack the Goat Wreck seeds until I'm confident of success, until I feel like I have things dialed in.

It's hard to say what will happen wrt genetic availability here in Colorado because of changed & uncertain legalities, or just how honest labeling of clones & seeds will be. OTOH, Moonshine says that GWH is limited production, so I'm glad to have it, look forward to growing it someday. Maybe I can do it justice.
 

TheStrainMan

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Good yield is never a bad thing, unless it's with plants that are unmanageable in the given space. So is potency, depending on what you want to do, the kind of head you want to have at the time. Observationally, and from accounts, the Goat has a clean, crisp head with warmth & sociability, along with the kind of potency where lesser pot-fiends need to be careful of the dosage. It's been described as an extreme sport high psychoactivity sort of med by medical users.

Coming back to MJ after many years' absence, it seems to be one of the kinds of smoke that one wants in a versatile headstash. It'll be nice to pick the kind of stuff I want to smoke from what I've grown. The occasions of getting high will be fairly rare for me until I retire at the end of the year, given random drug testing stupidity as a legally mandated condition of employment. Growing is a different matter, and I intend to have a nice stash & some interesting genetics when I get there. Interesting to me, anyway. I've started out with a couple of autoflowers for rapid results, then I'll move on to some supposedly easy strains like Satori. If I screw it up, I can always get more seeds. I don't want to crack the Goat Wreck seeds until I'm confident of success, until I feel like I have things dialed in.

It's hard to say what will happen wrt genetic availability here in Colorado because of changed & uncertain legalities, or just how honest labeling of clones & seeds will be. OTOH, Moonshine says that GWH is limited production, so I'm glad to have it, look forward to growing it someday. Maybe I can do it justice.

This goat cut has a high potency, too, with a test I saw coming back at 21.5% (I take test "scores" with a grain of salt, but there's still comparative value in testing multiple strains from the same lab). Your GWH would have scored 24 at the same lab if I had to guess. I plan on smoking the goat during daytime only because I prefer hybrids before and after dinner; then maybe a deep indica at night reading time.

Good luck dialing things in, don't get discouraged if your first year is filled with unforeseen challenges, it takes time to build skill. Avoid clones because most that are publicly available carry pests that can and will ruin your garden. Buy some good seeds from breeders being shown by all us growers. Those few hundred dollars will be a crucial investment towards success.
 

Jibman

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Looking good man. The goat is a very strong plant. I agree that it's a keeper. Glad to have her in my little collection.
 

Jhhnn

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This goat cut has a high potency, too, with a test I saw coming back at 21.5% (I take test "scores" with a grain of salt, but there's still comparative value in testing multiple strains from the same lab). Your GWH would have scored 24 at the same lab if I had to guess. I plan on smoking the goat during daytime only because I prefer hybrids before and after dinner; then maybe a deep indica at night reading time.

Good luck dialing things in, don't get discouraged if your first year is filled with unforeseen challenges, it takes time to build skill. Avoid clones because most that are publicly available carry pests that can and will ruin your garden. Buy some good seeds from breeders being shown by all us growers. Those few hundred dollars will be a crucial investment towards success.

Thank you for the encouragement. I'll probably need it, but so far, so good. The GWH is an outlier in my likely selections, I think, because it's a cross rather than a strain. F2's are likely to be highly variable, and I just don't have the means to really engage in breeding. I want to produce my own seed, establish some predictability & repeatability with my grows. You're definitely right about genetics- it's all in the beans, in the endlessly complex interaction of the psychoactive elements of cannabis.

More than anything else, I want to grow a good relatively true breeding day smoker- something expansive, clear headed & motivational but with some warmth & joy as well. Something that'll brighten up the day & keep me going. I have Satori seeds, and they're next after an autoflowering indica, currently at the small seedling stage. If it all goes well, I may think I'm ready for the GWH after that. I've been eyeing DJShort's F-13 for the future, and I welcome any suggestions.

Enough about me- I'm following your grow, looking forward to seeing the results. Good luck with it.
 

TheStrainMan

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an outlier in my likely selections, I think, because it's a cross rather than a strain. F2's are likely to be highly variable...

Isn't most everything us non strain hunters have access to, a cross of crosses? By strain, I assume you mean a wild land race? Some wild plot of mj growing in its spot for centuries somewhere would have low variability in the seeds because of all the natural back-crossing that's happening from a small (relatively) gene pool of males in the plot. That's why clone-only strains and old mothers are so prized and cared for by many. With beans that aren't stabilized through years of back-crossing and test grows (most seeds out there), we have to expect variability as we would human children. Similarities, and differences... Some like mom some like dad. A bit like grandmas and grandpas. The good news is that these days new seed companies are using excellent quality parents so whatever you get is going to be excellent. It can be fun. But if you need predictability and consistency, cloning all your plants, then keeping what you like as a mom and take clones off her every cycle.
 

Jhhnn

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Isn't most everything us non strain hunters have access to, a cross of crosses? By strain, I assume you mean a wild land race? Some wild plot of mj growing in its spot for centuries somewhere would have low variability in the seeds because of all the natural back-crossing that's happening from a small (relatively) gene pool of males in the plot. That's why clone-only strains and old mothers are so prized and cared for by many. With beans that aren't stabilized through years of back-crossing and test grows (most seeds out there), we have to expect variability as we would human children. Similarities, and differences... Some like mom some like dad. A bit like grandmas and grandpas. The good news is that these days new seed companies are using excellent quality parents so whatever you get is going to be excellent. It can be fun. But if you need predictability and consistency, cloning all your plants, then keeping what you like as a mom and take clones off her every cycle.

Not like that. More like growing an inbred line that's pretty stable. I can't think of a sativa example, but let's say that I grew 6 Maple Leaf indicas, had 3 of each sex. If I let them open pollinate, the resulting seeds will still be much the same as the parents in virtually all respects, because it's an IBL. If I do that with an F1 cross like GWH, the resulting variation in the seeds will be quite large. When we consider that the mother, GG, is an F1 hybrid clone, then the range of variation in the offspring will be even larger.

To stay Colorado legal, I'm very limited as to the number of flowering plants, 6, so it seems unlikely that even an experienced breeder would be able to tame that into dependable and predictable seed of very high quality. I'll probably try it, anyway, if I have a particular fondness for GWH.

The keeping of mother plants & cloning is a little more than I want to do, I think. I have strong space constraints along with the desire to stay legal, something that long time growers obviously never cared about, anyway. They never had the opportunity. I don't want to devote my life to it, I just want to enjoy the process, and have a perpetual selection of smokables for different occasions, while being largely free of the commercial aspects of it all, right down to growing my own seed.

It's not like I'm cheap- I realize that quality genetics are expensive, and I'm willing to pay. I just don't want to keep paying.

I really shouldn't clutter up your thread with this stuff, but I welcome the discussion- maybe we could take it to PM?
 

TheStrainMan

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Right on Jhhnn.

Here is the Golden Goat on Day 8. Classic 5 fingered leaves. I wonder if they'll max out at 5?

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TheStrainMan

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This plant is so easy to grow and clone, anyone can do it. Just using Nectar For the Gods basic 4-part chelated organic nutes that feed the soil and the plant. What's different this grow is the amended soil I'm using by Nectar for the Gods, instead of my usual Ocean Forest-Light Warrior blend. The decision was a no-brainer... Saw some intriguing comparisons of side by side tomato plants at the grow store between a pot of FFOC and one with this Nectar soil. For the same price as my previous mix, and to match the nutes I already use and love, and all the tasty organic amendments already in the soil which I believe in and agree with. So far so excellent as far as growth rates and vigor is concerned.
 

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