Greenops 5: 6 plant SCROG from Kush to Sour

[greenops]

Ding Ding! Round 5

The current grow isn't even finished but you know we be growing non stop.

This time I will chose the 6 best plants from the following strains:

2 Sour Diesel - Reserva Privada
2 Kandy Kush - Reserva Privada
2 NYC Diesel - Soma
3 Kosher Kush - Reserva Privada
1 Kushberry - Reserva Privada
1 Cheese - G13
1 Blue Widow - Dinafem
1 Sour Star cut - Hortilab

Most of them started their first day under the 150w Fluros on Dec 15.
2 Kosher Kush died after germinating (my mistake). So I germinated a 3rd one which came out 5 days after.

After a week veg I made another big mistake. I became impatient looking at those stretched stems. I decided to gently take them out of their 1 gallon pots to scrape some bottom soil to lower the surface and bury the stretched stem.

However, due to the premature roots, the root ball wasn't holding the soil so some kind of crumbled in the process, which have shocked a few plants.

The NYCD2 didn't make it and the Blue Widow is kind of growing slowly. Not sure if it has anything to do with that shit i did. All other plants are doing good now, I just hope they didn't get some kind of damage that will show up later in the grow.

Due to this fckup I asked a friend if he could spare me a clone and he offered me a Sour Star cut (ECSD x Star Bud). I just got it today, it has yellow leaves as he had some problems with his water.. It should go away once rooted in the new medium.


So this is Day 16 (KB, BW, Cheese, Kosher Kush are younger)

OK, after listing all the seeds I germinated above, I finally ended up with (see picture, from top, left to right):

Cheese, Kandy Kush2, Kandy Kush 1, Sour Diesel1, Kushberry, Sour Diesel2, Kosher Kush,
Blue Widow, NYC Diesel and the Sour Star cut.

And in a week I have to select the 6 I want to flower out.. wow, decision, decisions.
If anyone wants to suggest a particular strain to be selected or cut from the selection, now would be a good time.

The other picture is the current grow, which will be harvested in 2 weeks. The young ones will be ready.


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[greenops]

Day 49 from Seed

Ok, the thread title isn't accurate anymore because I decided to scratch my Sour D's. They were growing, stretching way ahead of the pack and I was thinking it could mess up the canopy. I took clones of them tho.

I finally went with:
2 x Kandy Kush
1 x Cheese
1 x NYCD
1 x Kosher Kush
1 x Kushberry

I feel they're smaller than other plants I grew before. That's because I had to keep them in the veg cab under 110w fluros in 1 gallon pots for the first 5 weeks of veg.
After that they've been getting 400w and obviously love it.

Just recently I've been dealing with some pre flower issues. All 6 plants are showing very lil and fine white hairs, as they should for being fem seeds. However on 3 of 6 plants are growing some kind of balls. These balls have 2 pointy tips at the end. I hope it's just a female calyx...

This time I will wait a lil bit longer until I switch the flip to make sure I will get the screen full.

 

[greenops]

Day 55 from Seed / Day 3 12/12

I switched the flip 3 days ago. The screen was about 75% full and that hermie scare proved to be new growth. So there's another branch growing on the same location where a pre flower is supposed to be. I've never noticed someting like this before but now I have it on 3 plants.
Anyway, the scrogging is going good, nuthing broken yet. Supper cropping helps too and I should keep doing it.
Also it's on this light cycle where the plants received 600w hps for the first time. And I will continue with that setting for now.

In this grow I'm running an experiment between two soils. On two plants (Kandy Kush 1 and Cheese) I'm using organic bat mix, on the other I'm using Plagron's Grow Mix.
So the 2 plants in the organic soil will receive nothing but un-pH'd water. It promises more taste. Will see after this grow, I might go all organic next if the yield is right.

 

[greenops]

63 days from Seed / 11 days on 12/12

The stretch has been very manageable so I just train them once a day.
Most areas will be covered once these branches extend to the next square. For some reason they're a bit slow reacting to the flowering phase. All plants show v-shaped pistils but there aren't many of them.
But I do feel this is going to be a good one. The scrog is getting busy and the plants look strong and healthy.

 

[greenops]

Day 22 12/12 - Day 3 blooming

Ok, so it took em a while to realize that we're flowering.
Usually I see V-pistils popping up everywhere around the 11th day after the switch, but this time it didn't happen until 18 days after.

I don't mind cuz I still want them to stretch some more. This scrog should be full by now if it wasn't for 2 shorter phenos of a Cheese (NE) and NYCD (MidWest).
At least the 2 plants in the south are getting busy, that's the Kosher Kush (SW) and Kandy Kush #2 (SE). Still, all in all there are only about 3 empty squares in the middle and some at the edge around the Cheese (NE).

My feeding schedule is alternating water and nutrients every 5-7 days. They have been fed twice now. They've been getting mostly N from the Grow Nutes and depending on the bud development I might switch to the Bloom nutes next time.

They've been under constant training but since I notice shorter internodes I'm about to stop and just let them bud sites go up!

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[BIGBADBAZ]

Hey just read from the start to hear your doin a Stella job matey I'm gunna c this through to the end with you if that's ok! I would love to learn how to do a Scrog! Any chance of helping me through one if I give it a go! As always nuff respect...

 

[greenops]

Sup Bigbadbaz, hop on. I'll drop updates regularly. just let me know if I can help u with your scrog. peace!

 

[ThaMagnificent]

Sweet looking SCROG! What kind of soil and nutes are you using?

 

[greenops]

Gracias homie. On the 2 plants on the top I'm using Plagron Bat Mix soil (organic) and for the rest I'm using Plagron Grow Mix (lightly pre ferted).

The 2 plants on the top shouldn't be needing any nutes as the soil should provide for everything. On the other 4 i'm running a side by side test - NYCD and Kosher Kush are getting Canna Vega/Flores, Kushberry and Kandy Kush2 are getting Plagron Grow/Bloom.

 

[ThaMagnificent]

Nice! I like the variety you've incorporated into the Scrog....different strains....different nutes....Is it a pain in the ass to maintain?

 

[greenops]

I water/feed every 5 to 6 days so its still manageable.

 

[greenops]

27 days 12/12 - 10 days blooming

The pistils turned to visible bud sites just couple days ago so I stopped training them too.
They're more or less developing at the same pace, tho I notice the Cheese is slightly ahead.

Stretch has slowed down to almost zero. Since the Batmix Plants in the North are showing yellowing from the bottom to mid area, I continued giving them doses of the Grow Nute.

Trics are just starting to appear. No distinctive smell or stickiness yet.

I'm out! Peace!


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[greenops]

Shit guys... I'm not sure if I can finish this one.

I just found powdery mildew on the Cheese (top right) and Kosher Kush (bottom left)!
A fine layer of powder on the leaves, first I thought that I could be dust or sumthin that was brought in via the intake.

Not really sure what's causing it, the humidity never exceed 50%. Usually it's around 30- 40%. Temps are around 78f.

I cut off quite a few infected leaves, this should also improve airflow in that area.

Any more ideas?

 

[greenops]

Day 43 12/12 - Day 26 flowering

It's been a while since my last update. The battle with the Powdery Mildew has kept me busier than I would like. I was stupid enough to ignore the first signs of PM, as i was basically ignorant about it. The humidity level is low due to the climate outside, so i was never worried. But the air couldn't circulate properly thru the dense scrog. I guess thats what caused it. If anyone has any tips on how to get rid of this please let me know.

I don't know if this is considered a minor infestation or if this is already a no win situation. I have removed all infected leaves. The PM on the removed leaves was just very little, most were smaller than a finger print, even when I just see a lil sprinkle I pluck the leaf. However the amount of the defoliated leaves, especially from the Kosher K., were more than a few handful.
Plus I suspect 2 or 3 sugar leaves of the Cheese have PM on them too. Its just hard to tell cuz of the presence of the trichomes, but there seems to be an irregular pattern in there so I cut those leaves off. Or maybe I should cut the whole branch?

I'm not keen on making bubble out of this so I hop I will find a way to keep as much smokeable buds possible.

So far I used a sulfur spray once at the end of 2nd week flowering. The difficulty with spraying is that u dont wanna hit the buds but also u don't wanna miss any spots!
My friend working at a hydro store advised against the use of sulfur burners. Apparently they're not as efficient in a smaller tent like mine. He recommended a local fungicide product which I believe is chemical. Should be applied every 7-10 days and stopped 3 weeks before harvest. This i used between the 3rd and 4th week of flowering.
Soon I'll try to use some hydrogen peroxide to blast any newly discovered PM off the leaves. Then I prolly gonna try some baking powder spray and a garlic spray.

I just hope that all the stuff I'm spraying wont alter the taste and aroma. I dunno for some reason the NYCD leaves are turning purple. But actually the NYCD has no visible PM, also the Kushberry has very little.

 

[mack 10]

high ya mate,Pm sucks. you could try greencure if you can find it, this can be used up to harvest and is organic I think? I recently went though this so I can feel your pain.
here's a little back story, well in the past I always used Systhane (bayer) this has always worked in the past, I tried this when Pm showed up recently.This time it didn't work and the continual spraying,cold temps and pm battered my plants so much that I had to scrap the lot at week 5/6
as I was not going to smoke any pm/chemical infested bud, ergh! this was very painful but had to be done.
Then a friend hooked me up with some Eagle 20. which I sprayed on my clones and mom's.
Bye bye Pm! but you can only use it in veg up to day 20 of flower.
Wish I had got it sooner cause its very costly and time consuming having to start over.
Also get a Sulpher candle to kill any spores that are in your room.
Good luck.

ps, it may only look like a small patch of mildew but it is actually inside the plant and the white patches are(its reproductive organs) actually at the end of the mildew cycle when it is trying to reproduce, sending spores all over your room.

 

[greenops]

Hey mack10.. thanks for dropping by.
Unfortunately green cure isn't available here.
At the moment, if i can't remove the infected area, i'm using hydro peroxide to blast the smallest spots i see, then i'm going to use a fungicide product for the last time tomorrow (it can be used up to 3 weeks before harvest).

At what point did u call it quits? Were the buds covered in PM?

In my situation, the Cheese, has a some PM on the sugar leaves near the buds, so i sprayed HP on it. The other plants have it mainly on the fan leaves and some areas on the stems too. But from a far, the PM isn't noticeable. You would really have to put your face in there to see it... in your opinion, is this still worth fighting?

sorry i'm really a noob when it comes to this PM shit.