Noobin up a PPK

[DaveTheNewbie]

not too bad from transplant! did you ever step up frequency? in a closed space this also tends to drive up rh.

a) im happy running every 6 hours atm, it seems to be working. i spose i should up it, just means playing with the timer
b) theres an extraction fan running 24/7

 

[delta9nxs]

to me it just looks like rh might be a little low. i was thinking that the increased frequency might help with that if it is occurring. you should be in the 70-80% range right now.

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

to me it just looks like rh might be a little low. i was thinking that the increased frequency might help with that if it is occurring. you should be in the 70-80% range right now.

70%-80% just isnt going to happen. Without the extraction fan things get cooked, so its essential.
But i can lift the watering frequency easily enough. I guess its time.

EDIT : its now watering every 3 hours, 8 times a day.

 

[forkup]

That may be causing the leaf margin curl. High temps, low humidity and too much air flow combined just sucks the moisture out of plants. I don't know your humidity level or how quickly you change your air but try to find a balance that gives you the best case scenario between temp and the required air movement to keep it in control. Obviously not enough air flow will create higher temps but too much may not benefit the temp much but will tend to suck them dry. In other words there may be a point you could slow your fan down to that would be enough for temp control and help the humidity/air flow issue. If you don't have a speed controller you could play with restricting the air intake or the fan inlet/outlet.

 

[ImaginaryFriend]

I'd up the pulses out of principle, but as for the leaf curl... it might just grow out of it. Happens sometimes after transplant.

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

Sunday 03/03

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Sunday 17/03

its way more bushier than ive ever grown before. Im not sure if its not too bushy. I will need alot more height in the next week to get to the height i desire.
Maybe growing well will upset my rotations ?

 

[hotboxes]

lol your not used to this kinda growth are you Dave?

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

lol your not used to this kinda growth are you Dave?

its funny : im used to MORE height growth. But no where near as bushy.

i think my old system caused insane stretch and insane internode distance. Now im getting more like the rest of you guys that seem to know what your doing.

Im also thinking i have some sort of nute issue / imbalance as im seeing the "veins" in the leaves. I have to look that one up, but im betting its a recirc coco issue like mg or p

 

[delta9nxs]

i think i'm seeing light interveinal chlorosis on some lower leaves. usually this is seen as a "magnesium deficiency" but it also occurs on plant parts that are not getting good light as magnesium is the central molecule in all chlorophyll types. this can occur on opposite sides of a plant where one side is getting good light and the other isn't and so might not a deficiency at all. most nutes have enough in them already but your nutes may be borderline on mag for your particular strain.

what strength are you feeding? in the ppk environment with the plant growing at high speed you might need a stronger solution on some plants.

your humidity locally around the plant looks like it's higher in the last photo. as i mentioned earlier increasing pulse rate also increases rh locally around the plant so if you are still doing 3 hrs with no obvious signs of trouble i would suggest that you go to 2 hours between pulses for a while.

this could drive up the local rh and possibly help with the leaf display.

but that's great growth for 2 weeks and a seedling.

i don't really care for the eagles much either.

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

i think i'm seeing light interveinal chlorosis on some lower leaves. usually this is seen as a "magnesium deficiency" but it also occurs on plant parts that are not getting good light as magnesium is the central molecule in all chlorophyll types.

most nutes have enough in them already but your nutes may be borderline on mag for your particular strain.

what strength are you feeding? in the ppk environment with the plant growing at high speed you might need a stronger solution on some plants.

im running a EC of 1.2 or so mainly maxibloom silica and chelators. I could boost it easily enough. It feels like Mg to me too. Seeing as ive never grown a plant this fast before it stands to reason that my normal nute regime might be deficient.

so do i up the maxibloom or do i add in some epsoms? Either way its no drama.

i don't really care for the eagles much either.

get outta my fucking cab!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-vwPuiILBc

 

[Purple turtle]

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its way more bushier than ive ever grown before. Im not sure if its not too bushy. I will need alot more height in the next week to get to the height i desire.
Maybe growing well will upset my rotations ?

hello dave... know im late for the ride ...Damn!..shes beasting already at such a young age...dis gonna BE good!!!...well done bro ,im keeping my eye on you...been watchin your work!

PT

 

[hotboxes]

Are you still in coco dave? if so it might just be something a lil cal/mag can help. Looking good either way man. congrats on getting it together.

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

hello dave... know im late for the ride ...Damn!..shes beasting already at such a young age...dis gonna BE good!!!...well done bro ,im keeping my eye on you...been watchin your work!

PT

welcome turtle.

Are you still in coco dave? if so it might just be something a lil cal/mag can help. Looking good either way man. congrats on getting it together.

yup and yup. suprisingly its hard to get calmag around here. but epsoms is easy.

 

[forkup]

Consider trying an epsom salt solution sprayed on the leaves to quickly see if it's a magnesium deficiency. At the rate of growth you're seeing I'd expect a deficiency to show a need for more nitrogen. It's kind of hard to tell by the photos but is the overall color of the plant lighter than the previous week?

 

[delta9nxs]

hey, dave, i just remembered something. back when i first tried coco i was still in maxibloom at about ec 1.5 and was getting some displays.

so keeping the maxibloom at 1.5 which would be 750 ppm at the .5 conversion i added first 50 ppm magnesium sulfate and then 100 ppm calcium nitrate. bringing it to ec 1.8 or 900 ppm total.

this did 2 things. it totally stopped all displays and brought the nitrogen level up to a more effective one for a fast growing plant than the maxibloom alone provided.

 

[DHF]

hey, dave, i just remembered something. back when i first tried coco i was still in maxibloom at about ec 1.5 and was getting some displays.

so keeping the maxibloom at 1.5 which would be 750 ppm at the .5 conversion i added first 50 ppm magnesium sulfate and then 100 ppm calcium nitrate. bringing it to ec 1.8 or 900 ppm total.

this did 2 things. it totally stopped all displays and brought the nitrogen level up to a more effective one for a fast growing plant than the maxibloom alone provided.

I love your knowledge and experience Bro......

Makes TOTAL sense that with accelerated growth , the need for increased nutrient uptake would follow.....

Supplement yer juice Dave and listen to the DR bout the calcium nitrate and magnesium......but......ppm`s should level off and stay lower once full swellage ensues IME.......

Peace....DHF.........

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

hey, dave, i just remembered something. back when i first tried coco i was still in maxibloom at about ec 1.5 and was getting some displays.

so keeping the maxibloom at 1.5 which would be 750 ppm at the .5 conversion i added first 50 ppm magnesium sulfate and then 100 ppm calcium nitrate. bringing it to ec 1.8 or 900 ppm total.

this did 2 things. it totally stopped all displays and brought the nitrogen level up to a more effective one for a fast growing plant than the maxibloom alone provided.

i upped my maxibloom from EC 1.2 to EC 1.5 and all the veins went away. Im guessing that all the chelating agents that i use and you didnt with maxibloom make the difference so that i can get away with 1.5.

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

Sunday Update : its going into flower tomorrow

its no where near as tall as im used to after 4 weeks veg, but by christ its the nicest bushiest plant ive ever grown. I doubt it will get big enough even after stretch to justify being just 1 plant per side of the tent so im going to have to do 2 per round from now on. But im really loving it.

You can see that ive defoliated alot during veg this time, and im really loving how it increases the branches and tips near the top.

 

[DHF]

Environment`s everything my buddy....from the roots to the shoots.....That plant looks nothing like what`s been happenin in Dave-ville , so maybe more plants around the bulbs next run will be a good thingy.....

Keep up the good work Bro.....1.5 EC was always my target for dialed results including all additives......

Good luck....Freds............

 

[Alien_Dawg]

Thats going ta be one big-o-ball of buds come days 50..
Looken mice and ready ta rock...



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