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Lucas VS. Advanced Nutrients
- Thread starter MileHighGuy
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Who's photo is that? Now I'm getting confused..... I was talking to CouchLocked
that second picture you posted up was a picture of one of my agent orange buds... the one i posted is yours.
the truth be told.. we all have blemishes or whatever on leaves at times, its just cosmetic.
one thing i am wondering though, if you have not already posted the answer, is why have you titled the thread lucas vs advanced when you can use advanced to create the lucas idea? or have i missed something somewhere??
the truth be told.. we all have blemishes or whatever on leaves at times, its just cosmetic.
one thing i am wondering though, if you have not already posted the answer, is why have you titled the thread lucas vs advanced when you can use advanced to create the lucas idea? or have i missed something somewhere??
we all have blemishes.... Not really.... I have close to zero leaf issues... where as before when i used bottles I ALWAYS had them.
TO BE CLEAR: I didn't post any of your pictures that was someone else... and I didn't even know they were yours.
The photo that you showed of mine above.... is from an old LUCAS formula grow... and in case you didn't notice, that picture was taken to highlight the Powdery Mildew that was growing all over them too. Hmmmm.... Haven't had any of that shit since I left Bottles also.
I don't care how you guys grow, but I don't like misinformation, my post this morning was to Couchlocked about his photo's that were apparently yours.... I don't know.
Peace
yeah my bad... apologies.. eitherway its an example of burnt tips.
tbh a couple of weeks back i had to do some heavy training with some plants as im scrogging them. after pulling them about a bit a few of the leaves got knocked and consequently now are marked. its hard to avoid when you flower alot of plants at a time and your on a time scedule. you cant be as gentle as you should be.
so coming back to my comments. you will sometimes have marks or whatever on leaves. its not always a case of bad growing or anything else. i offen get crispy leaves next to fans aswell. or too near to light/heat sources.
personally i have never had powdery mildew or any other pest or whatever either. never had mites.. the worst ive ever had is a few fungus gnats which is hard to avoid in coco. things like powdery mildew are easy to avoid if you take care of you enviroment. prevention is key.
back to your bottles... some people cant grow with bottles. some people cant grow well organic.. its down to personal preference. burnt tips happens .. you just live and learn, use a little less next time, its definately not a reason to slag of bottles and advocate your method as the best. its all just preference
you actually post a pic of mine with one burnt tip and attack one of the nute lines i use. then you go ahead and post pics of your own bud which has burnt tips galore and im not sure if you trying to show us the way.. or show us more burnt tips? confused..
Bio boy
Active member
so professor mel frank running te NPKMG ratio with canna, shows a lack in Calcium week 3 flower especialy if you use RO water .
tap water has trace elements of cal and mg, which RO removes, otherwise in flower week 3 the plants call on calcium and if they dotn get it this blocks the MG causing non absorbtion of nutes and burns,
simple fix is £1 for epsom salts and spray them 0.6 ec with aloe vera as a suffacant, aloe is also anti mould and has somany enzymes for the plant you woudlnt believe it,
suffacant means it will spread not add liek water drops and burn in light,
this is a simple fix for a simple problem,
not every line is goign to work ideal are you moron?
every strain taes different EC this shows strain dependant to weather it wil absorbs 85% of your nitrogen of 50% of the nitrogen meaning is you have a strain takign a low ammount you can and will get a buildup using same nute measureents as you are for you 2nd strain, thus meaning EVERY FACT IS DIFFERENT
its not handed to ya on a plate and if u think it is mate than LOL go back to the novice section and acutaly read rather than follow a ''average gauge'' on feeding bottles pfft newbies lol get your facts before slating other peoples
tap water has trace elements of cal and mg, which RO removes, otherwise in flower week 3 the plants call on calcium and if they dotn get it this blocks the MG causing non absorbtion of nutes and burns,
simple fix is £1 for epsom salts and spray them 0.6 ec with aloe vera as a suffacant, aloe is also anti mould and has somany enzymes for the plant you woudlnt believe it,
suffacant means it will spread not add liek water drops and burn in light,
this is a simple fix for a simple problem,
not every line is goign to work ideal are you moron?
every strain taes different EC this shows strain dependant to weather it wil absorbs 85% of your nitrogen of 50% of the nitrogen meaning is you have a strain takign a low ammount you can and will get a buildup using same nute measureents as you are for you 2nd strain, thus meaning EVERY FACT IS DIFFERENT
its not handed to ya on a plate and if u think it is mate than LOL go back to the novice section and acutaly read rather than follow a ''average gauge'' on feeding bottles pfft newbies lol get your facts before slating other peoples
Epson salt does not contain calcium. Sorry man, your post made me 'LOL'.
Learn how to spell.... Then learn what is in epsom salts:
MgSO4 this is Magnesium Sulfate... Not Calcium...
Now... No doubt when using bottles the plants will each have different requirements.... But Not in proper soil.
Go back to the Newbie Section before you try and put someone in their place with Zero references to back up your info... had you even googled epsom salt you would have hesitated before posting.
None of us believe that every plant will act the same as some base line bottle says.... but soil growers agree that 1 good soil mix will work with most Annual Flowering Plants... this eliminates much of the guessing you are obviously doing.
Lucas VS. Advanced Nutrients
You called him out on his leaves.... So then he posted the photos you were showing us.... And was merely pointing out that you had the same issues.
You called him out on his leaves.... So then he posted the photos you were showing us.... And was merely pointing out that you had the same issues.
'Burnt tips' aren't always a result of what you've been feeding a plant, it can also be the result of one's environment. This whole discussion is much ado about nothing as one should be concerned about the plant as a whole, not just a single discoloration.
Very True!
yes definately
Yeah hot temps can also cause nute burn as plants are taking up more nutes than normal (along with more water). Especially in hydro. Guess higher humidity can help there, as this will reduce plant uptake of water. Yeap, environment!
ive found underwatering in coco does it too.
Bio boy
Active member
u know nothing lol,
mg lockout cuses non uptake of cal, cal is in tap water... sort out the MG and the cal will fix its self every time for 5 years now,
your post made me LOL
if using RO water then u need to get some calmag simple as but not needed if you use tap
LOL freakin idiots need to go back to the learning board before thinking they knwo everything
note how u pick on my spellings, without knowin my situation, i grow for medical benefit
i have co-ordination problems due to a lump in my brain, i also have disclixia and bipolar, i struggle with a list of problems impacting on everyting i do, so thanks for pointing out that i cant keep up with spellings and keyboards nice to be reminded of how retarded i am
u know nothing lol,
mg lockout cuses non uptake of cal, cal is in tap water... sort out the MG and the cal will fix its self every time for 5 years now,
your post made me LOL
if using RO water then u need to get some calmag simple as but not needed if you use tap
Hey Bio Boy ,your post makes total sense, dont let small talk get to ya bro,If you got some good advice post it up..
An excess of magnesium can lock out calcium but that's not what you said. You said a lack of calcium locks out magnesium and the fix is epsom salt, which is incorrect. Maybe you meant to say something else.
Beginners love to point to 'calmag issues' or 'pH' whenever their plants don't look right and the 'fix' is usually much simpler than that. Quit over-thinking things....
You sure about that?
Base nutes only and RO water, day 38...
Lucas VS. Advanced Nutrients
Bio - you are wrong. Sorry.
Maybe stop adding the high PK and then you will magically stop having calmag issues.
Calmag is usually plentiful in soil and in base nutrients.
Calmag lockout is a problem that only growers of cannabis have... I find that to be interesting. Cannabis isn't special at all in the plant world and I find it interesting that growers around the world have managed to grow without the dreaded Cal Mag lockout.
Learn to grow some other plants and keep on reading.... In the weed chemi grow sub-forums your knowledge might make sense, but not to any advanced grower that truly understands.
Keep on going for magnesium during the third week for your calcium issues.... Or put your ego aside for a moment and continue to read somewhere outside of a weed forum.
You'll notice that calmag is usually abundant and that the hydro bottle companies are adding way way to much PK and then adding PK boosters.... Which in turn causes lockouts and the need for more of their products. What a vicious cycle!
But again.... All of this is mute in proper soil.
Oh and Bio - I would ditch the chemi bottles if you really are using for strictly medical benefits.
Bio - you are wrong. Sorry.
Maybe stop adding the high PK and then you will magically stop having calmag issues.
Calmag is usually plentiful in soil and in base nutrients.
Calmag lockout is a problem that only growers of cannabis have... I find that to be interesting. Cannabis isn't special at all in the plant world and I find it interesting that growers around the world have managed to grow without the dreaded Cal Mag lockout.
Learn to grow some other plants and keep on reading.... In the weed chemi grow sub-forums your knowledge might make sense, but not to any advanced grower that truly understands.
Keep on going for magnesium during the third week for your calcium issues.... Or put your ego aside for a moment and continue to read somewhere outside of a weed forum.
You'll notice that calmag is usually abundant and that the hydro bottle companies are adding way way to much PK and then adding PK boosters.... Which in turn causes lockouts and the need for more of their products. What a vicious cycle!
But again.... All of this is mute in proper soil.
Oh and Bio - I would ditch the chemi bottles if you really are using for strictly medical benefits.
S
SooperSmurph
I'd always thought that Magnesium problems were inherent to Cannabis, for most plants Magnesium is considered a micronutrient, whereas nowadays we consider it a Macronutrient for Cannabis, yes? Plant foods, at least most, aren't constructed with Cannabis in mind, making Mg issues very common with our lady, or is this 5th wax hit making me think incorrectly?
