Hi hellraizer, is your coco constantly moist or has it been drying out in the past while?
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A few things that I've learned about growing in coco with a drip systm DTW
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hellraizer30
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It doesn't dry out.
A few things that I've learned about growing in coco with a drip systm DTW
Is there a way to double check your probe? I thought my blue lab pen was calibrated, but it was defective and a half point off. I got some retarded twisted leaves as a result.
Is there a way to double check your probe? I thought my blue lab pen was calibrated, but it was defective and a half point off. I got some retarded twisted leaves as a result.
hellraizer30
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I have x4 guardians and x2 combo meters and 1 pen and i have cross checked them,
Plus i calibrate every week. So i dont think its ph, i checked runoff and its 5.9 and im
Watering at 5.8 to 5.9 after adding a bit of magi cal and a epson salt spray there greening
Up good now and picking up the growth to
Plus i calibrate every week. So i dont think its ph, i checked runoff and its 5.9 and im
Watering at 5.8 to 5.9 after adding a bit of magi cal and a epson salt spray there greening
Up good now and picking up the growth to
hellraizer30
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noyd666
yo on the way, perked up some.
Right on
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dank420uk
plants are looking great hellraizer
hellraizer30
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Thanks guys
I get cal/may deficiency unless I add 1teaspoon of Epsom salts per 15 litres of nutes. Works perfectly
barefootseeds
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Great thread, Lots of good info to soak up in here. I noticed a few pages back someone saying that you cant feed multiple times daily in large pots of coco DTW, I dont see how this could be the case unless you water to run off for each feeding.
This is my first pure coco grow and I am using 25 gallon fabric pots, they are fed DTW for one minute twelve times per day. I haven't had any problems with overwatering, a bit of underfeeding in flower but nothing major considering I have not much prior experience with coco.
This is my first pure coco grow and I am using 25 gallon fabric pots, they are fed DTW for one minute twelve times per day. I haven't had any problems with overwatering, a bit of underfeeding in flower but nothing major considering I have not much prior experience with coco.
I have x4 guardians and x2 combo meters and 1 pen and i have cross checked them,
Plus i calibrate every week. So i dont think its ph, i checked runoff and its 5.9 and im
Watering at 5.8 to 5.9 after adding a bit of magi cal and a epson salt spray there greening
Up good now and picking up the growth to
The man at the hydro shop informed last winter, cal mag uptake is slowed in cold conditions . Foliar Cal Mag made a difference for me, and my cool temp Winter vegg area . I was using Canna nutes at the time . No probs till temps dropped .
EB .
All this shit originates in Sri Lanka for the most part , and has from the get....for the plant growing community that is........Legal or not...but ....
Who uses more coco than us....and they know it....That`s why they give 2 fucks on quality control........
Guaranteed Canna has the best quality control program to hydrate , dry , and sift out the coffee grounds dust , as well as pre-charging the expensive bags to provide for the CEC/holding onto ca/mag till a certain level is built up before releasing it back to the plants ftw......now...
It`s Calcium Nitrate , or Calcium Citrate that different manufacturers spike their shit with to charge those outrageous prices for the clean stuff.....but.....
It definitely makes a difference in nutrient profiles for the plants once they`re established....so....I wish these idiots could treat all the shit the same and charge decent prices for "exactly" the same product across the board ......but no......
All about profit margins and as little done on each and every end product for advertising and distribution for the bottom line.....and....
That`s why there`s so many inconsistencies in this medium that`s still in it`s infancy and yet to be given the credit it`s due for hydroponic like yields once dialed and hoonin.....
I`m hopeful for better manufacturer quality control in the future.....but not holdin my breath.....
Caveat Emptor....Let the buyer beware....and learn what it takes for coco to give excellent results before jumpin head first and killin or dwarfing buncha plants with shit for yields.........or....just use Canna and pay for it cuz......
HGO`s killin it with it......but....
Still learn a copy of the rules if shit goes sideways and needs help.....
Peace....DHF...........
That's not right.
The quality control program exists, it's just that the consumer of the end product can't be 100% clear on what they're getting because they're buying the product from a third part retailer. Not a lot of people know this and I've only found it out myself recently because I've converted to using blocks and, having had a bad experience I researched into where they come from and the differences in grade etc.
Most of the companies who sell bagged re-hydrated ready-to-use coco, aren't actually directly responsible for the manufacture and process of the coco. All they will do is buy the blocks in bulk at a wholesale price, re-hydrate it, bag it, then sell it on. What grade they choose to buy, who they buy from, or how much they can buy at once, will determine the quality of the coco at your end.
You'll find out that the company who put the brand name on the bag, don't have in house coco processing facility and don't own any in sri lanka. So, that's how it all works.
The quality control is there actually, it's just that you put that in someone elses hands when you buy from the brand maker and not the actual importer/distributor of the product. In the uk you can get a custom made coco with exact ratios of dust/fiber/husk/bark etc etc, then it's compacted for you are sent out, and you'll pay for whatever grade you choose.
Different places grade their product differently, for example one store has `organic` `washed` and `buffered`
Now as a customer you'd probably look and think organic coco, cool. But..
Organic is what you'd use in general gardening, as part of a compost mix for example. It's not for indoor growers such as us without flushing and buffering. It's not a ready to use hydro substrate. I found this out the hard way and hence the research.
To give an example of the wide difference in quality between the grades and subsequently how fit for use they are, testing the water from an extraction method showed the ph of the organic block to be 4.0 and the ec over 1.6...
The ph of the buffered block is 6 and the ec 0.4.
Long story short, when we you a bag of good quality re-hydrated bagged coco, it's the buffered blocks the company has bought wholesale and re-hydrated.
You can cut out the middle men and buy the blocks and re-hydrate them yourself, but just make sure you know what grade of product you're getting and always buy a few tester blocks to check for quality and consistency before buying in bulk.
google `cocogreen` and have a read of their website.
I got mine from the `c0ir store` the buffered grade. The difference in price is only slight for what you're getting and goes down based on how many blocks you buy. The equivalent of 260 liters of coco comes in a bag you can lift with one hand. The delivery is not suspicious at all.
I'm in the uk btw, but seeing how it's mostly sourced from the one place I'd imagine the quality and grading system is the same. The main thing is that you want at least the buffered grade wherever you buy from and that you test what you buy before placing a bigger order. They're only a few quid per block so it really won't cost much to trial a couple.
Like I say if you have a look at that cocogreen website you'll find pdf documents which give a detailed analysis of the different grades of coco and what percent of which elements they contain. Also the ratio of different fibers and how they effect the product. It'll give you an idea of how things change through the grades and also why a lot of people experience problems while others don't.
I got mine from the `c0ir store` the buffered grade. The difference in price is only slight for what you're getting and goes down based on how many blocks you buy. The equivalent of 260 liters of coco comes in a bag you can lift with one hand. The delivery is not suspicious at all.
I'm in the uk btw, but seeing how it's mostly sourced from the one place I'd imagine the quality and grading system is the same. The main thing is that you want at least the buffered grade wherever you buy from and that you test what you buy before placing a bigger order. They're only a few quid per block so it really won't cost much to trial a couple.
Like I say if you have a look at that cocogreen website you'll find pdf documents which give a detailed analysis of the different grades of coco and what percent of which elements they contain. Also the ratio of different fibers and how they effect the product. It'll give you an idea of how things change through the grades and also why a lot of people experience problems while others don't.
Very cool and informative post!one thing i found is that soil is a lot more forgiving outdoors with ph then coco.can you still use bat guano and worm casting teas on coco outdoors or is there no microbial life there and should you add mycorrhizal to coco?hydro organics seems to differ in the medium used between rockwool,hydroton and coco
