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Neem meal users
- Thread starter bigshrimp
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bigshrimp
A reduction in flying gnats & fruit flies would be the biggest change. A welcome one at that!
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A reduction in flying gnats & fruit flies would be the biggest change. A welcome one at that!
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SpicySativa
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I top dressed with about an inch of my new soil (includes neem and crab meal, each at 1/2 TBSP/gal), and it completely wiped out the minor fungus gnat annoyance I was dealing with.
Fungus gnats are an easy problem to deal with, but I predict this new soil will make them a complete non issue.
Fungus gnats are an easy problem to deal with, but I predict this new soil will make them a complete non issue.
I was wondering more along the lines of springtails, soil mites and thier predators?
Fungus gnats are the issue, not really causing damage but are real obnoxious. I have a sack from ahimsa on the way. Just wonderin...
Should i go with the bubbled tea or topdress for my moms when it gets here?
Fungus gnats are the issue, not really causing damage but are real obnoxious. I have a sack from ahimsa on the way. Just wonderin...
Should i go with the bubbled tea or topdress for my moms when it gets here?
bigshrimp
RE: Suppression of Soil Mites, Springtails and BSF Larva
Nothing of note, i.e. large colonies. The surface area of my vertical flow-through reactor measures 3' x 4' = 12 s.f. With this dimension 1" of compost or manure = 1 c.f. and that is the amount I add about every 4 days and before I do that I sprinkle 1 tablespoon each of neem, kelp and crab meals & then cover that with the new food stock.
The suggestion to add neem meal comes from two sources:
RE: Suppression of Soil Mites, Springtails and BSF Larva
Nothing of note, i.e. large colonies. The surface area of my vertical flow-through reactor measures 3' x 4' = 12 s.f. With this dimension 1" of compost or manure = 1 c.f. and that is the amount I add about every 4 days and before I do that I sprinkle 1 tablespoon each of neem, kelp and crab meals & then cover that with the new food stock.
The suggestion to add neem meal comes from two sources:
- NEEM: A Treatise by K.K. Singh, Suman Phogat, R.S. Dhillon and Alka Tomar
- Vermiculture Technology: Earthworms, Organic Wastes, and Environmental Management by Dr. Clive A. Edwards, Norman Q. Arancon and Dr. Rhonda L. Sherman
morganic grower
Member
Interesting stuff might have pick a 50 pound sack for me soils
In my garden Neem meal in teas and incorporated into the soil doesnt affect the soil mite and springtail population.
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Seems to me that routinely adding a sub lethal amount of even an organic pesticide , can only select for resistance in pests like aphids and assorted gnats.
Earlier natural insecticides are now innefective due to overuse and underdoseing , my spray licence requires that i do not use any single chem in this way repeatedly , the derivatives of neem like Azid are a usefull avenue for safer pesticides for a decade or more but risks being cut short by resistance.
At one time , Derris , rotenone and basic pyrethrum were highly effective but useless now.
Best practice from DEFRA to farmers here is to apply enougth of whatever licensed product is chosen to ensure a total kill , or do not use it at all.
Earlier natural insecticides are now innefective due to overuse and underdoseing , my spray licence requires that i do not use any single chem in this way repeatedly , the derivatives of neem like Azid are a usefull avenue for safer pesticides for a decade or more but risks being cut short by resistance.
At one time , Derris , rotenone and basic pyrethrum were highly effective but useless now.
Best practice from DEFRA to farmers here is to apply enougth of whatever licensed product is chosen to ensure a total kill , or do not use it at all.
for me; 1/2 tsp/gal of mix was enough '"licensed product'" to ensure a total kill
as a component of my IPM; neem gets rotated with lavender and eucalyptus
have been using NSM as the N source for veg {since i have it} and that is preventative ~now i question this practice
probably use alfalfa now :shrug:
as a component of my IPM; neem gets rotated with lavender and eucalyptus
have been using NSM as the N source for veg {since i have it} and that is preventative ~now i question this practice
probably use alfalfa now :shrug:
I really need to find someone using this method. Need to find out how my body reacts to it.
Turns out I have an extreme sensitivity to azadachtrin, or whatever they put in Azamax, Azatrol, Aza-Sol and other "Neem Extract" products. I can't even use it a few weeks BEFORE flowering now and can't touch meds from any grower that uses it.
I love what those products do for my plants... but can only use them on vegging mums now. Really curious as to how un-extracted neem works on my system.
Don't suppose there's anyone with the same issue that already knows the answer to that one?
Stay Safe!
Turns out I have an extreme sensitivity to azadachtrin, or whatever they put in Azamax, Azatrol, Aza-Sol and other "Neem Extract" products. I can't even use it a few weeks BEFORE flowering now and can't touch meds from any grower that uses it.
I love what those products do for my plants... but can only use them on vegging mums now. Really curious as to how un-extracted neem works on my system.
Don't suppose there's anyone with the same issue that already knows the answer to that one?
Stay Safe!
