Carbonated water for C02

[Welsh-Smoker]

Just wondering if i can feed my plants on carbonated fizzy bottled water, or will the bubbles fuck up the roots?

 

[lee van keef]

Is there a reason you want to deliver co2 to the roots?


In place of typing out a wall of text here - No, don't do that.

 

[Welsh-Smoker]

Is there a reason you want to deliver co2 to the roots?


In place of typing out a wall of text here - No, don't do that.

I thought the roots would be able to take in the co2, as they take in water and oxygen? Am I incorrect?

 

[lee van keef]

I'm no scientist, but I just don't think it works that way.

 

[zukinjo]

the roots dont need co2 they need oxygen...as for the co2 it puts the ph down...if u buy water with co2 and check the ph and then leave the water a day or two u will see that the ph will go up...

 

[Welsh-Smoker]

Ah right thanks for letting me now that guys before i spent months worth of cash on carbonated water! Nice one both! Any ideas on how to increase co2 in my tent?

 

[jumpincactus]

If your gonna use the water use it to spray your plants foliar style. As the water evaporates it releases the C02 that the leaves assimilate. Roots dont need it the rest of the plant does.

Remember to use just after lights come on so you don't burn your leaves from the droplets magnifying the lights effect.

 

[Sat X RB]

yep, pH yr water.

despite the eminently logical rationales presented above I don't think it will make any difference at all. but if yr worried open the bottles the day before and let them go flat.

pH yr water tho. could have all sorts of crap in it. (unless you believe what yr health authority and the label says.)

cheers!

 

[unspoken]

If you want to raise co2 levels in your tent either use a propane burner, bottled co2, or exhale or other brand of co2 bag.

 

[Welsh-Smoker]

If your gonna use the water use it to spray your plants foliar style. As the water evaporates it releases the C02 that the leaves assimilate. Roots dont need it the rest of the plant does.

Remember to use just after lights come on so you don't burn your leaves from the droplets magnifying the lights effect.

Thanks for the reply but I think ill just leave it as I'm going to be running on 24/0 but the idea sounded good though

 

[Welsh-Smoker]

yep, pH yr water.

despite the eminently logical rationales presented above I don't think it will make any difference at all. but if yr worried open the bottles the day before and let them go flat.

pH yr water tho. could have all sorts of crap in it. (unless you believe what yr health authority and the label says.)

cheers!

Yea that sounds like a plan I am definatly going to ph my water but when I got a bit of cash next to buy ph up and down, and ph tester. Because iv only just had my tent kit and my seeds arrived today

 

[Welsh-Smoker]

If you want to raise co2 levels in your tent either use a propane burner, bottled co2, or exhale or other brand of co2 bag.

Thanks for the info buddy yea I can get bottled co2 but its really expensive around here just had a look at your grow, them plants look pukka healthy mate! How long do you veg for?

 

[unspoken]

I vegged those for a couple months under t8s and then a few weeks weeks under the HID. You can see the change from the first pic to the second is where most of the veg growth took place (under the hid). You should look into the exhale bags. Couldn't hurt and not super expensive. If nothing else you could hack them and make some of your own. It's just some kind of mycelium in a growing medium in a bag. They put out more co2 for a longer period of time than other methods like sugar/water/yeast. The thing you need to know is that none of these methods will raise the co2 level like a burner or bottle. If you have good ventilation I suggest you just worry about co2 later on down the line when you know everything else is dialed in. Best of luck.

 

[zukinjo]

dont wont to be a smartass but co2 is the least of ur problems...there are so manny things to dial in that this is the least of ur problems...

 

[unspoken]

Also please please do not start your seeds until your tent is setup with the lights and fans and you have given it a couple days to monitor the temps. I just noticed you are only getting set up for what seems to be your first run, right?

So here's what I would recommend:
1)Tell us what kind of light and what kind of ventilation you have. Also, go ahead and set it up and measure the temps and report back.

2) Let us know what kind of medium you are using (soil? coco? rockwool?)

3) Get a ph meter and ph down. Most people never use ph up IME, but maybe you will need it. I would buy the ph meter, calibration solution, and ph down first.

 

[Welsh-Smoker]

I vegged those for a couple months under t8s and then a few weeks weeks under the HID. You can see the change from the first pic to the second is where most of the veg growth took place (under the hid). You should look into the exhale bags. Couldn't hurt and not super expensive. If nothing else you could hack them and make some of your own. It's just some kind of mycelium in a growing medium in a bag. They put out more co2 for a longer period of time than other methods like sugar/water/yeast. The thing you need to know is that none of these methods will raise the co2 level like a burner or bottle. If you have good ventilation I suggest you just worry about co2 later on down the line when you know everything else is dialed in. Best of luck.

They look great fair play I would really like it if mine turned out like that. Thanks for all the info on the co2 but as you say that is the last of my worries, I read up noe that co2 only makes a big difference when your at your bets at growing, so yea it is the least of my worries

 

[Welsh-Smoker]

Also please please do not start your seeds until your tent is setup with the lights and fans and you have given it a couple days to monitor the temps. I just noticed you are only getting set up for what seems to be your first run, right?

So here's what I would recommend:
1)Tell us what kind of light and what kind of ventilation you have. Also, go ahead and set it up and measure the temps and report back.

2) Let us know what kind of medium you are using (soil? coco? rockwool?)

3) Get a ph meter and ph down. Most people never use ph up IME, but maybe you will need it. I would buy the ph meter, calibration solution, and ph down first.

Yea it is my first run and I have started my seeds, i pute my tent up a few weeks ago I'm running a 600hps with 4inch extractor with 4inch carbon filter and a 16 inch 3 speed room fan and my tent is 1.2M by 1.2M by 6ft tall. My medium is multi purpose compost, its not proper stuff tho its just regular. The nutriants I have is all purpose miracle-gro the nutrients in it are - nitrogen 24% ammoniacal nitrogen 3.5% ureic nitrogen 20.5% phosphorus pentoxide soluble in neutral ammonium citrate and in water 8% of which soluble in water 8% potassium oxide soluble in water 16% Boron 0.02% copper 0.03% iron 0.19% manganese 0.05% molybdenum 0.001% zinc 0.03 and it says ph range for a good stability of chealated micro-nutrients; until ph 6.5 I'm not sure what that means? Is this nutrient any good to start with? And that is everything I have. Thankyou for helping me buddy much appreciation!

 

[unspoken]

I would suggest that you get some high quality soil and nutes. You will thank yourself later if you have the money now.

 

[Femora]

How about open flame.
Keep some candels buring if your growspot allow it..

Ive understood that candles let out about 3x their weight in co2.
So 100g parafine/stearine will give about 300g co2
I dunno how to applicate that to ppm or % increase in a eg 2m3 box..
I belive that its about 0,03-0,04% co2 in the air normally.

Im lost in calculating this shit.. I just dunno how to think with weigts, ppm, airweight... Blah blah! I get a headache! :/
Any math-guru around?!? If so; assume that co2 is 350 ppm..

 

[Welsh-Smoker]

I would suggest that you get some high quality soil and nutes. You will thank yourself later if you have the money now.

Yea I'm going to get some plygron bat mix soil and some advanced nutrients for veg and flower do you use advanced nutrients?