Has Marijuana really got any better?

[Donald Mallard]

Imagine how much extra effort it would have taken to dip tonnes of sticks in opium,
sounds impossible ,
the stuff we had was not dipped in anything,
the golden thai not on the sticks was better than the sticked up stuff,
it would have been plainly obvious had it been dipped in anything,
it was just really really good bud ,
grown to perfection in the tropics,
herb grown to perfection in the tropics is very very potent ,
it does not need anything else to enhance it ,
it already has it all ...

 

[Herb Tarlek]

No, it has not. But marketing has.

 

[xmobotx]

there is a lot to be said for locale ~after all; many of the divergent varieties we have today are due to thousands of years growing in specific locales

and there is a lot to be said for those 'thousands of years'

sure; todays markets and todays breeders have engineered a situation where we can typically be exposed to the better genes more consistently

but; its still an expression of the gene pool which has been coaxed out

there may be better availability of more consistently top-drawer expressions but those expressions have been there and enjoyed by people long dead today

 

[sdd420]

Donald has it right those strains are legendary for a reason. I remember back in The OG days reading about the black Thai strain,how it was grown . I'd love to find that story again.Basically some strains are kept by different cultures etc after many years of selection. We are less than beginners when you think of how long this plant has been cultivated. Peace

 

[OLDproLg]

WEED grown in the TROPICS ahhhhh!!

WEED grown in the TROPICS ahhhhh!!

Hey Donnald!!

Sounds about RIGHT to me,if you or anyone EVER finds a sativa
stronger than my old asian wonder please leade me to it???????

Here is the DEAL folks,genes get covered up/cannabinoid profiles the same.
Sometimes they can get better or segrigated into strains just like dogs.......
The gene pool can weaken like dogs,as compared to wolf right,although man
can breed for traits their is many that always get COVERED up but still there.

THis sativa im gonna show you may have seen already,but if not i will tell ya
som'm....after smoking this with a friend 1 third the way down the joint,it would
compleatly clogg up with resin and stop dead like a stick of resin.
2 people could get so HIGH that you were imbarrast to move around,or get up
from a chair.......sativa im talking with a cannabinoid profile of a SLUDGE HAMMER!!
https://www.icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=207880&stc=1&d=9145357
https://www.icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=207881&stc=1&d=9145357
Me and my beautiful sister way back in 83'......the strongest sativa to date period.

THe way we mite bring something like this back,is to IBL sativas from asia!
THis will UNCOVER the genes of old.........thats one way to try anyways???

Has it gotten better,well id say NO when it comes to complex cannabinoids.
Maybe YES to the % of thc but,id like to know what Alexander the great had for genes!
Good luck searching.....

 

[Storm Shadow]

It just keeps getting better.. as the world gets smaller... more gems will be exposed... If my parents never Left Iran and gave birth to me...these Iranian Genetics would be isolated from the wester gene pool ... 2013 we are now going to see the most elite strain in the game right now OG Kush get crossed with DNA its never ever even dreamed of sniffing aka Iranian Male..

Cannabis evolves as a much faster rate than people give it credit for ... Flavors like Baskin Robbins in todays cannabis market... its the Golden Era of Cannabis right now

 

[CHillTowneGenes]

yes and no. yes, because the breeding and plant care have become more involved, wehter it be from monetary gain, for quality meds, stash, or some of all of those. no because these same genetics have been here since the begining. some of the seedlings that didnt make it through could be the best smoke, and the ones that make it through could be the average, or just OK smoke... but i will say i think advancements in breeding in growing has made more of an improvment on average than anything else. that includes sites like this that make it possible to spread that info to allow all growers the opportunity to instantly chime in...its like a great coach can pull something out of a great team that a weak coach cant...

 

[OLDproLg]

My pics...

KILL ME,because i had the MALE but never made seeds.........
i was a young dumb ass and still to this day it bothers me.
Did anyone understand me,complexity over thc!
But again,i may have to shop around to see if their is anything close???
Peace!

 

[canned abyss1]

wow canned abyss...pics can say allot and that looks damn nice m8...
so your saying the orig Phaze is still alive?....i just got a lil chill FOE20

I don't know if its the true original from the 60's, I don't think it is (that would be crazy but possible) but it has definitely been around at least 30 something years. I would like to find a nice p haze male from Ace and cross it with her.

 

[motaco]

15 years ago? No probably not much different. In fact many of the same strains are being used. But 30 years? certainly.


Just for fun one year get a variety of mexican brick weed seeds. Put down fifteen or so next to your clones you have selected. Then just look at the difference.

Then realize even mexi brick has tons of dutch genes in it and is a big improvement over most of the mexi weed from the 60s and 70s.

In the grand scheme of things weed has gotten much better over the past 50 years. But in the last 15 years of indoor growing? No, not much change. I don't think there will be much change in the next 15 either.

With the exception of breeders with exotic strains the real peaks and valleys, the highs and lows of growing marijuana is over. Its a very standardized product and is bought from seed with the expectation of being so.

We are past the days of receiving some seeded bag of weed from a country you never heard of, then trying to grow it in your back yard or in your closet and seeing what comes out of it.

 

[sprinkl]

We are past the days of receiving some seeded bag of weed from a country you never heard of, then trying to grow it in your back yard or in your closet and seeing what comes out of it.

I'm kind of sad I missed that actually... Although my first grow I did grow Jamaican bagseed from a coffeeshop... And it turned out more than OK, even with my utterly noob knowledge at the time. Next time I'm in the Dam I will focus on imports mainly
Though it is as you say, there might be Dutch influence in those seeds. Which doesn't mean it won't be special, just no longer authentic, after all it's probably been hybridized with local strains and due to the environment specimens most suited will have been selected. I think if you grow Dutch hybrids in the tropics after 5 generations of selecting the best functioning ones you'll end up with something completely different as well compared to the same process being done indoors or outdoors in temperate zones. I'm sure after enough generations you'd end up with pure sativa's... Offcourse you'd also have to select for potent highs rather than big chunky yields.

 

[CHillTowneGenes]

that is really wack motaco, wish those days where still around personally...

 

[coloradcannabis]

I am growing 21st century genes next to 20 year old brick weed seeds right now bro!

15 years ago? No probably not much different. In fact many of the same strains are being used. But 30 years? certainly.


Just for fun one year get a variety of mexican brick weed seeds. Put down fifteen or so next to your clones you have selected. Then just look at the difference.

Then realize even mexi brick has tons of dutch genes in it and is a big improvement over most of the mexi weed from the 60s and 70s.

In the grand scheme of things weed has gotten much better over the past 50 years. But in the last 15 years of indoor growing? No, not much change. I don't think there will be much change in the next 15 either.

With the exception of breeders with exotic strains the real peaks and valleys, the highs and lows of growing marijuana is over. Its a very standardized product and is bought from seed with the expectation of being so.

We are past the days of receiving some seeded bag of weed from a country you never heard of, then trying to grow it in your back yard or in your closet and seeing what comes out of it.

Ancient brickweed!


TGA Chernobyl

 

[motaco]

I'm kind of sad I missed that actually... Although my first grow I did grow Jamaican bagseed from a coffeeshop...

I'm told by far the vast majority of Caribbean and in particular Jamaican is very dutch'd up. A small island with a lot of pollen in the wind.

that is really wack motaco, wish those days where still around personally...

To be honest I'm too young to have experienced it myself. But I've learned enough about rose colored glasses and greener pastures to not wish for those days. Most people had little to no options about what type of weed they got. The majority of it was complete crap. Regular mexican weed like what is available today would have been absolute top notch smoke back then. I've smoked enough shitty weed to be happy there is so much good weed around today.

The legends about thai and vietnamese grass were pretty limited to soldiers and people who had friends who were vets. Good weed was EXTREMELY rare and there were serious dry spells in marijuana availability in the majority of the country every summer. It was a small group of people who had access to the great weed.

Even the seeds in the weed could only be grown properly in a few southern states like Arizona, Florida, Texas, and Hawaii,etc.

It wasn't until the 80s that indica started showing up in bagseed that you could grow in your back yard. And it wasn't until the 90s that such a high grade class of weed like "dank" or "Indo" even existed on a street level.

People don't like hearing this but part of what made the legends so famous back in those days is that most weed was absolute shit. And when people would get a good bag it would blow their mind. We are spoiled today. Almost every bag is amazing weed.

I only have a grasp of it because I remember when most weed was shitty brick weed and every year around christmas there would be one or two batches of california weed sent down after harvest. We would go nuts. It blew our mind. People would sit on an 1/8 of weed and smoke it for a month. When you are used to smoking low grade mexican california sensimilla blows you away.

 

[xmobotx]

i had the good fortune of spending the 80s in one of WAs 'hot spots' for the primo of the time

we r talk'n 30 years now but there might be some folks who recognize 'kelly hill'

or not

rose colored glasses grass/greener notwithstanding; as teens we enjoyed some fine buds hash and oils back then

 

[DamnUglyDogE]

All I know is...
I sure do get liquid resin dripping out my pipes a lot faster than I did in the 80's-2000.
Have ta clean the every week now...

I take this as a good sign..

2 cents..

 

[zachrockbadenof]

All I know is...
I sure do get liquid resin dripping out my pipes a lot faster than I did in the 80's-2000.
Have ta clean the every week now...I take this as a good sign..
2 cents..

we used to get a dark..almost black weed..supposely from columbia.. after 1/2 joint your fingers were sticky with black goo.. that was 69/70... never seen anything like it since...

 

[DryNobBob]

what does paraquat break down to when it burns on the weed?, LMFAO.

we used to get a dark..almost black weed..supposely from columbia.. after 1/2 joint your fingers were sticky with black goo.. that was 69/70... never seen anything like it since...

 

[zachrockbadenof]

what does paraquat break down to when it burns on the weed?, LMFAO.

i hope it's not gooey and sticky...

 

[Growcephus]

I agree with the folks that say she hasn't gotten any stronger.

IMO, advancements in cultivation information and technology have simply allowed MORE of the "bomber" ladies to be successfully cultivated in a wider variety of locations than in the past.

Back in the day, I'd say that MAYBE 10% of the cannabis we could find was quality, well grown bud. Sad, but true. Today, it's a lot easier, and that number has certainly jumped up quite a bit.