So if vac purging is out of the equation for me in the near future should i stick to qwiso, or is it worth going the BHO route? Been through so many of the threads on purging i am wondering if I should even try BHO without a vacuum pump and dessicator. Any and all opinion offered is greatly appreciated!
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No Vacuum= Stick to Qwiso?
- Thread starter MattHend
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I make BHO all the time with no Vac purge.. Im not selling it. If you can whip it into budder more people will want it. Here nobody buys BHO or QWISO
There is nothing wrong with BHO made they way it was 10 years ago. If you use good butane and purge it well no worries imo..
DustyBowls
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Butane has a far lower boiling point than isopropyl. Which means it will evaporate quicker, regardless of how you choose to do it. Thin layers on pyrex and time, will give the same purge a vacuum chamber can do faster. Butane is superior solvent.
BullnAChinaShop
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I know this isn't your question, but I went and got myself a hand pump for about $30 at pep boys. Drilled a 1/8 in hole in a mason jar lid and used the enclosed suction cup attachment. Viola low tech vacuum purge. Now I can only get it to 27-28 or so, but it seems to get the job done. I am also adding a winterizing step in 190 proof everclear (48 hours in the freezer)before the vac purge next time. But even without the winterizing step I am getting amber shatter after a couple 10-15 minute vacs. I have yet to try whipping, I hear a lot of mixed reviews on it. I'll probably give it a shot though.
Thin film vacuum purging at constant heat = the best way to remove any solvent from your oil, weather it be iso, ethanol or butane.
Get a 2 stage vacuum pump with a low micron rating and a aluminum or SS degassing chamber.
Get a 2 stage vacuum pump with a low micron rating and a aluminum or SS degassing chamber.
You certainly can purge them without the assistance of negative pressure, but not as quickly, easily, efficiently and thoroughly as you would with. Hence why I said the best way, not only way. Many advantages compared to only using heat.
The last 4 batches of absolutes I made were purged using heat only, if its a really small batch like a gram or two, I will usually just use heat to purge the ethanol.
The last 4 batches of absolutes I made were purged using heat only, if its a really small batch like a gram or two, I will usually just use heat to purge the ethanol.
Knew I had a can of butane in the back of the cabinet, just looked and it is actually lucienne. this has to be a sign... 
In somewhat unrelated news, afoaf has some bubble hash that I may be able to procure for a great price and I was thinking of concentrating that further. This may be a good use for my leftover ISO, no? Dissolve into warm ISO, then winterize? Thanks again for all the knowledge imparted so far!
In somewhat unrelated news, afoaf has some bubble hash that I may be able to procure for a great price and I was thinking of concentrating that further. This may be a good use for my leftover ISO, no? Dissolve into warm ISO, then winterize? Thanks again for all the knowledge imparted so far!
Low cost vacuum chamber
Low cost vacuum chamber
Was just thinking about doing that very thing, already have the whole set up, its the way I store product, vac the air out. You ever see those heating strips [available on EBay] they use to keep snakes warm? Wrap some of those around the mason jar and they warm up the QWISO.
Low cost vacuum chamber
Was just thinking about doing that very thing, already have the whole set up, its the way I store product, vac the air out. You ever see those heating strips [available on EBay] they use to keep snakes warm? Wrap some of those around the mason jar and they warm up the QWISO.
Isopropyl alcohol will not winerize as well as ethanol would, but yes it will work just fine for an extraction on some bubble, just break it up fine with some agressive shaking, there's no need to warm the iso dissolve the resins.
The hand pump mason jar setups are a waste of time, money and energy. Just being completely honest.
Very thin film heat purge would be your best bet if your not using vacuum, just make sure its hot enough to keep the oil viscous enough to release solvent otherwise it will have little reaction when it gets down to residual amounts.
The hand pump mason jar setups are a waste of time, money and energy. Just being completely honest.
Very thin film heat purge would be your best bet if your not using vacuum, just make sure its hot enough to keep the oil viscous enough to release solvent otherwise it will have little reaction when it gets down to residual amounts.
just ordered this nail setup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HRf30ftxhNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HRf30ftxhNE
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HighBurn8
would this work???
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-5-Gallon-.../221186543261?pt=BI_Pumps&hash=item337fbece9d
...or how about this????
http://www.amazon.com/FJC-Rotary-3-...ords=3.0+cfm+twin-port+technology+vacuum+pump
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Residual oil from being too cool the previous pass, or dropping too much oil in the nail. Oil is a hydrocarbon, which burns readily. I periodically superheat my nail to burn off any residual oil.
