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Botanicals

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W89- I understand how exciting organic growing can be. I understand that we are learning alot here. I also understand that it's difficult to deal with some of the stupid shit that occurs online.

I'm certainly not perfect my damnself. Lately though, before I hit the 'send' button I try and take 10 seconds to decide "Did you find this post helpful?" I only get nasty when someone personally attacks me.

You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. No offense.
RD
 
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BlueJayWay

W89- that shit is done sprouted, soak it man! I like to make extra and eat it by the handfuls too!
 

W89

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RD I get ya...

BJ It's been bubbling a few hours mate, a boba? whats that like a smoothie or something? yeah I have but it wasn't gluey LOL
 

W89

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I think my problem is that I substituted heroin with about 40 cups of coffee which consist of 5 sugars and 2 coffees and about 6 big bags of sweets a day... I become very hypo-active LOL
 

W89

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what category do they come under? uppers, downers or all arounders ?
 

ClackamasCootz

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Try using it on your plants - just make sure that you get grape or cherry-flavored cough syrups.

Not so much on the licorice deal...
 

W89

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Just been and picked some more comfrey... comfrey tea and worm food , check!...
 

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Scrappy4

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Just wanted to post one of my favorite botanical fertilizers. Alfalfa

http://www.alfalfasecret.com/alfalfa-benefits.asp

Alfalfa's Secret - A Natural Mulch and Fertilizer

Alfalfa's Secret is an organic fertilizer that requires absolutely no pesticides. Do right by your family and the environment and show that you care by using products that are non detrimental to your garden's soil and the surrounding area. Your plants will love you and you'll love your garden!

Being naturally organic is only one benefit of Alfalfa's Secret, here are a few more that will interest you -
•Conserves soil moisture
•Reduces weed growth
•Mats well
•Moderates soil temperature
•Builds soil organic matte
•Natural barrier between hanging vegetables and the soil
•Clings to the soil
•All natural
•Densified and easy to apply
•Once a year application



Further benefits as a fertilizer -

Alfalfa's Secret, when used as a fertilizer is a natural source of nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium (N-P-K). It is also a natural source of many other micro nutrients, such as copper, zinc and magnesium. Triacotanol is also released, a major benefit in the development of beautiful roses. Nutrients are relesed slowly all season long, encouraging natural soil microbial development.

With no artificial additives, Alfalfa's Secret fertilizer is safe for use around kids and pets.




Nutritional Facts -
Average Laboratory Analysis:





Nitrogen..........2.12%

Boron..............38ppm



Phosphorus,,..0.20%

Manganese....27ppm



Potassium......1.6%

Iron..................230ppm



Calcium..........1.25%

Aluminum......226ppm



Sulfur..............0.12%

Copper...........8.60ppm



Magnesium....0.25%

Iodine.............0.129ppm



Sodium...........0.07%

Zinc.................0.190ppm

I have noticed two negatives when using alfalfa, one is alfalfa meal can have weeds seeds, and two it can be hot and can cause burning if applyied directly to soil, so I like to do quick soaks for drench feeding or foliar and I like to make FPE's out of alfalfa. scrappy
 
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SeaMaiden

So, are they using a non-GMO alfalfa for their secret? I haven't been able to source anything known or not as far as GMOs are concerned. I just get the hay sweepings from my local feed shop, use those. If you use straight sweepings, you won't get the burning, pretty much ever, especially if you make a tea with it first, and then use the leftover alfalfa. I bury it deep.

I haven't used it for FPE for a while, mostly as teas made very quickly, over an hour or few.
 

DARC MIND

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i grow it
mine produces alot of hard stems,making it easy to hang dry and remove leaves with a simple firm grip... perennial with beatiful flowers,really great low hedge that shld be harvested after the beneficial attracting blooms play ther role..
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i honestly prefer other legumes,such as my gandule tree's
http://www.tropicalpermaculture.com/pigeon-pea.html

dont get me started on the sprout water from these beans
 
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jerry111165

If you use straight sweepings, you won't get the burning, pretty much ever

SeaMaiden, what is the difference between the sweepings and the alfalfa meal?

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SeaMaiden

If you use straight sweepings, you won't get the burning, pretty much ever

SeaMaiden, what is the difference between the sweepings and the alfalfa meal?

j

Processing is the only real difference I can discuss, and since I don't know how meal is processed, there isn't much to discuss with me, though others may have more to offer, I'm sure. The sweepings I get from the local feed shop are mostly leaf and flower (dried, of course) of the alfalfa, and necessarily includes some bits of other types of hay they carry--oat, rye, sweetgrass IIRC. They're the main supplier out here and are moving tonnage weekly.

What I'm more curious about is the difference between alfalfa pellets (feed) and meal. Comparatively, the meal is much more expensive than the pellets, which soften up and break down into smaller pieces fairly quickly, and in which bits of the actual alfalfa are easily distinguished with the naked eye.

Growing my own (I was gonna call it GMOing, but then, yeah no) is certainly an option, the issue for me would be where. I would, by necessity, want to be able to harvest some of it and that damn knee + slope gets in the way again.
 

Amber Trich

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hey sea, fedco has certified organic alfalfa meal, $33 for 50lbs not sure how that ships for you but for me it's cheaper than I can get organic pellets
 
hey sea, fedco has certified organic alfalfa meal, $33 for 50lbs not sure how that ships for you but for me it's cheaper than I can get organic pellets

i paid $21.50 for 25kg of organic EcoCert alfalfa meal (Canada). the pellets cost $25 plus tax and they were GMO. weird how the pellets cost more huh? the shipping for these products is usually free if bought at the feed store that i go to. might be the same for you guys too. i just had to wait until the next truck load was being delivered to get my product.

i apply it as a botanical tea and mix it in my soil. i bubble a touch of alfalfa meal with kelp for about 24 hours. basic but effective.

DDG
 
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