perpetual harvest timing / tips

[dogfishheadie]

good evening fellas. this site has provided a pletheora of information over the past few days and some of the grows on here are jaw dropping to say the least, much appreciated. this will be my first legit gardening experience, can't wait.

anywho, wanted to see if there was a formula / spreadsheet out there that could help calculate dates and what not when trying to determine your perpetual harvest schedule.

lets say, I wanted to have a maximum 4 plants flowering at any given time and be able to harvest once a month on the reg. something that could help me figure out when to cut the clones > root 10 days > veg 3 weeks > flower 65 days > cure. etc etc. the one time I wish I paid better attention in calculus class...go figure.

any help would be appreciated!

 

[longwaters]

Not sure on timing but you may want to use something to keep the plants level during the different growing stages if they are under the same light. Due to the inverse square law, smaller plants at lower canopy heights might have trouble keeping up if enough light doesn't reach them.

65 days flower / 4 plants = a harvest every 16.25 days. So could you simply clone every 16 days?

 

[socialist]

First IMO you must have mother plants for this. The variables: You need to find the average amount of days it takes your clones to root, the average amount of days your plants need to veg to reach your desired size for flower and the average amount of days to finish flower. If you want to harvest 4 plants every month take 6 clones the extra 2 will be insurance.

With your above calculations it will take you 96 days to harvest from clone. So on day 30 take your clones again. Repeat,repeat,repeat.

 

[paladin420]

I don't know of any spread sheets or rules on perpet. Everything is in flux,in is always moving. Here we do it to keep our numbers legal.
When the cloner needs to be emptied? Something is getting chopped! I run multi strains,some unknown testers. So you need to slow some down in the veg room.

Hav an outlet for clones.
Good luck

 

[dogfishheadie]

appreciate the help, finally got her figured out. working on the adjustable plant part now. thanks again for the help

 

[ThaMagnificent]

I guess it depend on a bunch of different factors....1 being are you using different strains or all one?

 

[Keep goin]

Easy...and no, you don't need a mother plant...

In terms of harvesting every month. You will obviously need to be flowering under 2 separate lights. Or be playing big time with height issues.

For timing of clones to replace at harvest. You can play a bit dependent on the size you are looking to achieve at the end. To have huge bushes you will want lots of veg time. But with ability to play with topping, training, etc. you can make it work.

The easiest thing to do is upon flipping clone em...by the time they root and veg out they will be ready to replace the plant they came from that you are harvesting. I'm going on decades without the convenience of a mother plant(s)...just don't have the room, works just fine. Absolutely no degradation of potency which is definitely the A#1 reason I hear brought up as to why not to do it.

If you can run mothers, have at it...timing remains pretty much the same. From clipping to flowering will be about 2 months (for larger plants...which I'm thinking is what you have in mind..)

Good Luck

KG

 

[hotboxes]

First IMO you must have mother plants for this. The variables: You need to find the average amount of days it takes your clones to root, the average amount of days your plants need to veg to reach your desired size for flower and the average amount of days to finish flower. If you want to harvest 4 plants every month take 6 clones the extra 2 will be insurance.

With your above calculations it will take you 96 days to harvest from clone. So on day 30 take your clones again. Repeat,repeat,repeat.

you don't have to have mothers, you could use under branches trimmed from preflower plants or even plants in veg. a lot of peeps are going this route saving more space for production plants. but not saying it isn't a good idea.

 

[hotboxes]

I used to have four stages of flower and would pull 10 to 12 sog plants every 2 weeks but you have to have backed up plants usually double of what you need to pick threw to get the best growing. if this is your first rodeo I would start small with one or 2 plants, perpetual takes some time to get going. it could take you 3 to 4 months to get a steady flow going once you dial your room, and your plants and find that strain that is going to perform for you time and time again. Like some one stated earlier it really depends on the strain your using especially if you only want to have 4 plants at any given time.

4 plants would mean every2 to 3 weeks a chop. so you are going to need 4 plants behind by at least 2 to 3 week of each other to keep proper canopy level cause you cant keep moving your light up an down if you have 4 stages of growth in the same place. There are thousands of aspects to plan for in perpetual like different nutrient mixes for different stages of growth or flower.

Do a monocrop a few times to dial everything thing as well as getting to know how to grow bud. I wish you the best of luck in what you choose.

 

[dribbled]

Old thread, but I figured out a perpetual 15 day harvest.

Start with 4 plants in veg, then clone your biggest, then put it in 12/12.

2 weeks later, put the now rooted clone in the veg room. Also clone the biggest plant in the veg room and then put it under 12/12.

2 weeks later, put that newly rooted clone in the veg room. Also clone the biggest plant in the veg room and put it under 12/12.

2 weeks later, put that newly rooted clone in the veg room. Also clone the biggest plant in the veg room and put it under 12/12 (This gives you 4 plants total under 12/12)

2 weeks later, put that newly rooted clone in the veg room. Also clone the biggest plant in the veg room and put it under 12/12. (HARVEST YOUR FIRST PLANT)

2 weeks later, put that newly rooted clone in the veg room. Also clone the biggest plant in the veg room (This should be the very first clone you made, 2 months ago) and put it under 12/12. (HARVEST YOUR SECOND PLANT)

...etc.

You have to have about 4 plants already pretty well in veg to begin this schedule.
There will always be 1 clone, 4 plants in veg and 4 plants budding, perpetually.

Clones at 24/0 light, or however much you want
Veg at 18/6
Bud 12/12

I use a 1000W sodium for bud, a 4-bulb T5 light for veg and just ordinary light or the T5 for clones.

I grow in coco, Head's formula 6/9 always, nothing else.
solo cups and 2 gallon pots are recommended

Purple Kush and Marionberry

 

[Phaeton]

Dick Pissed took my post. Oh well, I was slow.

There is a difference though, in my two week plant cycle it took five plants in the budroom rather than four. I was using ten week strains, eight week strains can get by with four plants. Just another consideration.

I am supposed to be on a seven plant/eleven day cycle but I mixed strains from seed instead of cloning. Now there are great variables in plant height and harvest times. The heights are not a problem, plant stands in 6" graduations keeps the tops in the correct place.
The harvests tend to bunch up, a fast plant put in before a slow plant comes out almost the same day, which causes it's replacement to be off as well. It turned into a hodgepodge with plants coming out whenever.
Clones are so much smoother in perpetual gardens.

And as noted before, a clone table, a veg table, a veg room, and a bud room are all necessary. I found a separate drying and curing room of great benefit as well.
A managed perpetual garden is a step past hobby growing.

 

[I wood]

Take extra clones if possible.
I juggle twenty five plus varieties at a time with no mothers. Never over sixty total plants.
One or two copies of each is all I can have due to number limitations.
After a while it gets to be normal to make sure you have a clone before put anything into flower. If the clone fails for some reason you can still get another easily from the recently flowered copy.
The landrace sativas are the most work. Sometimes it is necessary to clone and dump the larger vegging plant several times before you have finished the original enough to even know what you have.
Having many choices ready at any point makes it all worth the time involved, in my opinion.