Iran, Pakistan, and North Korea the best places to go breed large scale?

[lost in a sea]

practically every day i hear of someone else moving to australia.. for brits its either france, nz or oz and i can see why.. if it gets that much worse here it will turn into an exodus.. worst thing, for us anyway, is they are largely trained professionals, doctors, teachers etc..

 

[Noggone]

practically every day i hear of someone else moving to australia.. for brits its either france, nz or oz and i can see why.. if it gets that much worse here it will turn into an exodus.. worst thing, for us anyway, is they are largely trained professionals, doctors, teachers etc..

Must be the second exodus; the first settlers to Australia were English and Irish; mainly Irish as far as I know because they had worse poverty at the time than the English.
Must be a second wave happening now.
Funny because I have read that England now has a big influx of Polish.
It's not all roses here; the unemployment rate has jumped to about 5% recently, but I think that's still better than the US.
At the moment Australian economy is being driven by mining, mainly coal and iron ore, which they use to make steel, and China is buying all of it to feed their huge manufacturing economy. But when that runs out, or China finds another cheaper source (Africa, Brazil) then we are fucked. We have little manufacturing industry, and farms don't employ many people these days. Housing is very expensive over here, food dirt cheap. Electricity expensive (sigh).

 

[azad]

How about Morocco rent a field for cheap and get help from the locals come harvest time.

 

[lost in a sea]

How about Morocco rent a field for cheap and get help from the locals come harvest time.

that keeps running through my head.. would be so much fun!

i think the light coloured hash from morocco is my favourite high,, gets everybody laughing..

 

[Kcar]

Why not just do it here? Get a warehouse and experiment. End up costing a whole
lot less than relocating to a new country, and risking everything.

 

[big twinn]

^Because, that would still be risking everything?

 

[mack 10]

i have thought about this too. what about Africa? the motherland must have a spot or too for a few hundred thousand plants....just imagine....
on a side note spain or morocco would be nice?

mack.

 

[FirstTracks]

How's Switzerland looking for seed production these days?

 

[mack 10]

^yeah that.

 

[PuReKnOwLeDgE]

Thanks for everyones input. Wiggs Dannyboy is correct, basically dreaming of taking some time off at home and going to work thousands of seeds for a few years and make proper selections and develop, indoors and out. It is just a dream but it is fun to think about. If the stars aligned, and sometimes they do, I would jump all over it. I could relinquish my caregiver status at home and let a friend or patient takeover for a %, not a partner but hired help, so my money would still be straight and my homefront would still be right where it is and in one piece.

Out of the thousands of seeds I would only keep nug for testing no need to move anything. The only product would be seeds in the end. It would be quite the investment of time and money but our lives are short and there is only so much one can accomplish in a lifetime due to flowering times. I have a severe probelm with if I do something I must do it 110%, or not at all. Literally.

For some reason South America stands out as an attractive place to live on the cheap and disappear for a while.

As far as not doing it here, yeah, I am quite content with the legal limits I do have here and do not want to jeporadize them or my life anymore then I already am. I sleep well at night, sometimes to well. That wasn't always the case back years ago when I first started.
Jamacia would be awesome I could get down on that if the people would leave me alone.

You guys ever see the movie "the beach" with leonardo Decrapio? Damn that would be a good spot lol.

 

[Stoner4Life]

^Because, that would still be risking everything?

yeah but at least here your neighbors
wouldn't be eatin' up your dogs.......


just sayin'

 

[Waldgärtner]

How's Switzerland looking for seed production these days?

Not good. They outlawed seed production in the early 2000's because things were getting out of hand with people smuggling kilos of ganja to Italy and Germany.


As far as I know there's a single enterprise producing seeds semi-legaly for Greenhouse Seeds and others, but they got raided last year for unknown reasons. Don't know if they are still active.

 

[MrSterling]

and north korea is way off even having the technology to grow to any standard unless you import all the kit.. they are still using 40 year old soviet tractors for working their fields..

Lost, your statement is misleading. It suggests farmers using old technology is somehow unusual. I know *many* farmers still using their dad or granddad's tractor from the 40s or 50s. They still run, they're efficient, and cheap. The $50k John Deere combine monstrosity is a fools' game that drags the modern farmer into the pit of debt and despair.

 

[2 Legal Co]

Lost, your statement is misleading. It suggests farmers using old technology is somehow unusual. I know *many* farmers still using their dad or granddad's tractor from the 40s or 50s. They still run, they're efficient, and cheap. The $50k John Deere combine monstrosity is a fools' game that drags the modern farmer into the pit of debt and despair.

$50k for a combine,,, it'd have to be pretty old to pay that little.


Did know a couple of people who preferred Panama to most others. Both were ex USNavy, who'd been to a few ports. They said there were a few places in Panama where ex Pat USAers, had settled.

Not sure of the Propagation thing, but I'm sure they were very aware of the availability and use situations.

Perhaps a section of farmland in the mid US? With a year round stream? A Bit of Bottomland would be nice. You'd have to get rid of the old 'Hemp' volunteer stuff first however. lol Of course an 'upgrade' program might be acceptable, if you had a few years. Do an indoor/greenhouse grow, and transplant the unwanted males out by the stream, chop down all the 'native' males and burn them. Could have a healthy strain in a couple of years if you were careful and diligent. Weed has been growing there since the Gov. basically mandated it, for the manufacture of rope. But out there, the farmers sometimes tell the Gov AG people, 'if you want it killed, get out there and kill it'.

Sitt'n there on that 'sack o seeds'.

 

[lost in a sea]

Lost, your statement is misleading. It suggests farmers using old technology is somehow unusual. I know *many* farmers still using their dad or granddad's tractor from the 40s or 50s. They still run, they're efficient, and cheap. The $50k John Deere combine monstrosity is a fools' game that drags the modern farmer into the pit of debt and despair.

well imo no it isnt if you understand what old soviet tractors are like,, it was just an example of how for some reason N.korea has been held back worshipping the "commie" venetian five pointed star.. of course you are right because modern farming techniques have only allowed us to use more and more refined NPK on the land that comes out of the oil manufacturing process anyway.. which has lead to almost no "goodness" being left in soils because fields arent rotated and bioaccumulation means any goodness that was in the soil was fixed in the crops grown a long time ago..

if a farmer wants to become a business man then let him ruin his life by getting indebted for a combine.. i think a "farmer" should have more sense than that or he isnt really a farmer.. it should be about the lifestyle not the money.. easy for me to say though..

 

[2 Legal Co]

Speaking of 'farmers', I saw a news program on RFDTV a while back, they were interviewing a 'farmer' (dressed in a designer looking suite), who was complaining that the 'inheritance tax' was only good up to $5MILLION. Er uh, was that a Corporation being interviewed? Things they are a changing. eh?

 

[lost in a sea]

Must be the second exodus; the first settlers to Australia were English and Irish; mainly Irish as far as I know because they had worse poverty at the time than the English.
Must be a second wave happening now.
Funny because I have read that England now has a big influx of Polish.
It's not all roses here; the unemployment rate has jumped to about 5% recently, but I think that's still better than the US.
At the moment Australian economy is being driven by mining, mainly coal and iron ore, which they use to make steel, and China is buying all of it to feed their huge manufacturing economy. But when that runs out, or China finds another cheaper source (Africa, Brazil) then we are fucked. We have little manufacturing industry, and farms don't employ many people these days. Housing is very expensive over here, food dirt cheap. Electricity expensive (sigh).

yeah but its trained professionals leaving the country and walking straight into work over there or they wouldnt get a visa anyway.. the poor are poorer than ever in the uk and are now taking out "pay day" loans to go down the bookeys and gamble it, thats how bad things are now.. complete aquiescence to the jail cell..

the whole eu project was all about weakening every country in various ways and its values until the people accept a federalist system which we are very close to now, after the collapse of course, because europe is still set to go really tits up.. i like poles, they are nice people and work hard, and i think that they are being used as some scapegoat here as though any of this is there fault..

in the uk we still have the bond market bubble to collapse which will gobble up everyones pensions and tracker mortgages.. its at a three hundred year high and the government is the one buying its own bonds to make it look like its still a functioning concept..

so the general standard of living is getting on towards being as bad as during the world wars,, they(supermarkets like tesco) are even slipping powdered horse protein in our bugers now lol..

the original settlers were "criminals" who basically just had to sneeze and they were deported,, the crown didnt want anyone else getting in on that strategically important piece of land.. but from the aussies ive ever seen i wouldnt say there was more irish than the rest of british blood generally.. though alot of irish were sent from london.. i guarantee my anticedants were sent out there because lots from the borders were cleared out..

but everyone prefers for some reason to think their of irish decendance especially the yanks.. i really dont know why because if it were true there would be alot more short arsed drunks in the world lol j/k..

the housing over there is cheap.. a terraced two up two down in the uk buys a piece of paradise over there.. £150000 = 230000 australian.. and the average house price in the uk is still somehow over 200000.. though pretty soon no one will be able to sell..

but australia is still owned by the crown corporation.. i keep saying this but it doesnt seem to mean much.. guillard basically has crown corp stamped on her head.. i think the price of beer in oz would depress most brits though..

 

[MrSterling]

Lost, you are more than right regarding the old Belarus tractors. My reading comprehension isn't what it used to be.

And for the record, you guys should do some reading on Iran. As an American or any other nationality visiting Iran is perfectly legal. The Iranian people are not the Iranian government, they're like people anywhere, mostly friendly and open.

 

[FuhQ]

I don't think you will be allowed to travel to Iran to go on a Ganja tour LOL!


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[bombadil.360]

yeah but at least here your neighbors
wouldn't be eatin' up your dogs.......


just sayin'

so in N. Korea your dog will be food, and in Iran having a dog can get you sent to jail.

nothing is perfect, either dogs or cannabis, but why not both? sucks