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Autism test
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SeaMaiden
It may be state of the art for the background info, but is it used to make the Dx? I know my son was not Dx'd until he completed certain other tests, many of which had no words at all.
i got 29..... am i fucked?
I broke down and took the test. I got a 10. Definitely a 10. Not autistic. Definitely.
Of course, Judge Whapner is on in 10 minutes. 10 . . .
Should have been a driving question. I'm an excellent driver . . .
Of course, Judge Whapner is on in 10 minutes. 10 . . .
Should have been a driving question. I'm an excellent driver . . .
LeeROI
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Quoted for SeaMaiden. The ADOS modules are very proprietary but reading some pdf's on google--I get the gist of it.
Edit because I misread SM's post: One pdf talked about using ADOS in combination with other tests to make sure the patient would qualify for benefits.
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village green
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It is a diagnostic observation schedule. Both non-verbal and verbal behaviors are rated while the child engages in certain activities. This still needs to be combined with parent and teacher rating scales,a developmental history, and intellectual/language testing. The explosion in ASD cases is finally starting to ebb a bit.
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SeaMaiden
Very social, perhaps even considered to be an Empath.
Behold.
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i had 28, 
. im calling BS lol.im not saying there isnt somthing called autisim out there. but im thinking this test just has a broad meassure of what autisim includes,and therfore normal behavior might be easily mistaken for autistic behavior,depending on the situations we think of and use to answer the test' questions.
im sure people here might be a little smarter than the average person then they may just like libraries more than the movies, or they might go to the library instead for economic reasons,or perhaps its what they do for a living .i dont see how they can for certain pegg these situational answers to a mental disorder.thats just one example of course,you can go look at the test and pick out a few simillar questions.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewrockwell-show/2008/11/20/71-psychiatry-as-an-arm-of-the-state/
71. Psychiatry as an Arm of the State
here is the YT if you guys dont want to click the link
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. im calling BS lol.im not saying there isnt somthing called autisim out there. but im thinking this test just has a broad meassure of what autisim includes,and therfore normal behavior might be easily mistaken for autistic behavior,depending on the situations we think of and use to answer the test' questions.im sure people here might be a little smarter than the average person then they may just like libraries more than the movies, or they might go to the library instead for economic reasons,or perhaps its what they do for a living .i dont see how they can for certain pegg these situational answers to a mental disorder.thats just one example of course,you can go look at the test and pick out a few simillar questions.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewrockwell-show/2008/11/20/71-psychiatry-as-an-arm-of-the-state/
71. Psychiatry as an Arm of the State
here is the YT if you guys dont want to click the link
[YOUTUBEIF]ypwM-mVqSEg[/YOUTUBEIF]
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IceDweller
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Forty. Ouchie.
i had 28,
im sure people here might be a little smarter than the average person then they may just like libraries more than the movies, or they might go to the library instead for economic reasons,or perhaps its what they do for a living .i dont see how they can for certain pegg these situational answers to a mental disorder.thats just one example of course,you can go look at the test and pick out a few simillar questions.
This is what I was thinking as I answered some of the questions.... there's a lot of other "dx" than autism spectrum that would explain many of the answers on the test. Like the question about memorizing phone numbers....I'm a numbers person and, back in the day before cell phones etc., I did have a ton of phone numbers memorized...but in 2013, this question really doesn't make sense, cuz no one needs to memorize phone numbers anymore, thus, few people even try. So, my theory is that many of the answers will be influenced by the age of the respondent.
To SeaMaiden: I googled "empath", and read one of the articles I found: http://www.drjudithorloff.com/Free-Articles/emotional-empath-EF.htm
and there is a little quiz "are u an empath" with 8 yes-or-no questions; 1-3 yesses = at least part empath, more = more indication of being an empath. I had 5 yesses! And for what it's worth, my yesses were to questions that sounded like anti-social tendencies!!
(maybe I'm just good at test-taking) .....? ? ?
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SeaMaiden
Ok, I am going to assume that you mean no offense or insult when you post up stuff like this. However, I come from a background that has allowed me to be exposed to many people with a wee bit of a history with different types and forms of mental illnesses, and frankly, it *is* insulting to have watched them battle, to have lived with some of them, to have experienced what I have, and to see someone say it's all a myth.i had 28,
im sure people here might be a little smarter than the average person then they may just like libraries more than the movies, or they might go to the library instead for economic reasons,or perhaps its what they do for a living .i dont see how they can for certain pegg these situational answers to a mental disorder.thats just one example of course,you can go look at the test and pick out a few simillar questions.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewrockwell-show/2008/11/20/71-psychiatry-as-an-arm-of-the-state/
71. Psychiatry as an Arm of the State
here is the YT if you guys dont want to click the link
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Which is the first thing that I see when I go to that asshole's site. Let him deal with a young man's schizophrenia just once. No one except another parent of an autistic child can know the feeling I had when I placed my finger in my newborn's tiny hand and he pulled away and screamed as though he was being burned (that was the moment I *knew* he was autistic, he wasn't Dx'd until 12yo, after us spending years being told I needed to smack him more and him being punished at school). Or, how about some early onset depression, to the point where the child who's not even school-age is trying to kill him/herself? Made up?
This is what should be being discussed along with the concepts and notions behind gun control--mental illness vs mental health and how we can become healthier again.
And then some idiot like this Rockwell guy comes along, and he's gotta be right up there with Hubbard and the Scientologists in terms of 'helping' the world, and brings us back down to the Dark Ages. Bentom, I don't know if you ascribe to this guy's ideology, but if you do, well... I hope you never experience mental illness, or a behavioral or brain disorder like autism.
As for the tests themselves, you can't take just a few questions and point those out as being too broad or general to be applied to any one diagnosis. It's got to be taken as a whole, and that test alone is definitely not the diagnostic for ASD (formerly known more simply as autism). I'm not saying buy into it, I am absolutely saying be discerning and a critical thinker. But don't then turn around and buy into another person's BS. A lot of 'us' are here to tell 'you' it's real, very real. Politicos have no place playing around in mental or physical health.
sea maiden your right, i didnt mean any offence by it,i was certainly addressing the test and trying to be unbiased and logical wich may have come off as cold or calis.
i do beleive there are people who are disabled and have a really hard time,and i hope they can get better i want to convey that i would never talk about the disabled as a joke or in a negative light its simply not their fault and not my intent.im talking about the profession and science behind it, and or the test.
i dont want to get into my history too much but i have personal experience and so does my brother in dealing with the mental health profesion.we are both just fine off the med's i went a holistic route my brother just quit,and i didnt even find out till the other day that he has been off of them as a matter of fact.
this is just my personal experience but i agree with dr.szasz while phsychiatry may help it should never do harm as their hypocratic oath should affirm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Szasz
and he eludes to the idea that phsychiatry is being abused,and traditionally it has been,as a arm of the state.wich is exactly how its being used to strip people of their rights today reguarding guns and other rights and aspects of life.i beleive he is also saying phsychiatrists are "treating" behavior as a illness by using the term or perspective of stating it as a illness/disease.when a illness/disease would have a pathology and a behavior would not if i understand properly.so they are using the state to treat behavior the state doesnt like by using the terms synonomously.not that there is no such thing as autisim and other disabilities.
lew is just the interviewer and his speacialty lies in economics,plus their is alot to learn there and at the ludwig von mises institute where he is chairman and ceo.i do perscribe to their philosophy and economics and i have studied it thoroughly and i am also a buddhist these ideas have freedom as opposed to slavery and personal responsablility as paramount.i think that its a perspective over looked or just never visited on these boards wich is why i post them.so i can certainly understand the kneejerk reactions i get by most people,i guess im sort of asking for it without the proper explinations. hope ya can forgive me.
i do beleive there are people who are disabled and have a really hard time,and i hope they can get better i want to convey that i would never talk about the disabled as a joke or in a negative light its simply not their fault and not my intent.im talking about the profession and science behind it, and or the test.
i dont want to get into my history too much but i have personal experience and so does my brother in dealing with the mental health profesion.we are both just fine off the med's i went a holistic route my brother just quit,and i didnt even find out till the other day that he has been off of them as a matter of fact.
this is just my personal experience but i agree with dr.szasz while phsychiatry may help it should never do harm as their hypocratic oath should affirm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Szasz
and he eludes to the idea that phsychiatry is being abused,and traditionally it has been,as a arm of the state.wich is exactly how its being used to strip people of their rights today reguarding guns and other rights and aspects of life.i beleive he is also saying phsychiatrists are "treating" behavior as a illness by using the term or perspective of stating it as a illness/disease.when a illness/disease would have a pathology and a behavior would not if i understand properly.so they are using the state to treat behavior the state doesnt like by using the terms synonomously.not that there is no such thing as autisim and other disabilities.
lew is just the interviewer and his speacialty lies in economics,plus their is alot to learn there and at the ludwig von mises institute where he is chairman and ceo.i do perscribe to their philosophy and economics and i have studied it thoroughly and i am also a buddhist these ideas have freedom as opposed to slavery and personal responsablility as paramount.i think that its a perspective over looked or just never visited on these boards wich is why i post them.so i can certainly understand the kneejerk reactions i get by most people,i guess im sort of asking for it without the proper explinations. hope ya can forgive me.
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This test proves autism like typing proves me to be an accomplished and very-well connected underground hacker who wears "jammer" pants and those 90's style glasses with neon frames and a cool cap. Plus adults can't touch me, I am just that cool of a kid and will steal your purse to prove my ingenuity and said adult's foolishness.
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sea maiden your right, i didnt mean any offence by it,i was certainly addressing the test and trying to be unbiased and logical wich may have come off as cold or calis.
i do beleive there are people who are disabled and have a really hard time,and i hope they can get better i want to convey that i would never talk about the disabled as a joke or in a negative light its simply not their fault and not my intent.im talking about the profession and science behind it, and or the test.
i dont want to get into my history too much but i have personal experience and so does my brother in dealing with the mental health profesion.we are both just fine off the med's i went a holistic route my brother just quit,and i didnt even find out till the other day that he has been off of them as a matter of fact.
this is just my personal experience but i agree with dr.szasz while phsychiatry may help it should never do harm as their hypocratic oath should affirm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Szasz
and he eludes to the idea that phsychiatry is being abused,and traditionally it has been,as a arm of the state.wich is exactly how its being used to strip people of their rights today reguarding guns and other rights and aspects of life.i beleive he is also saying phsychiatrists are "treating" behavior as a illness by using the term or perspective of stating it as a illness/disease.when a illness/disease would have a pathology and a behavior would not if i understand properly.so they are using the state to treat behavior the state doesnt like by using the terms synonomously.not that there is no such thing as autisim and other disabilities.
lew is just the interviewer and his speacialty lies in economics,plus their is alot to learn there and at the ludwig von mises institute where he is chairman and ceo.i do perscribe to their philosophy and economics and i have studied it thoroughly and i am also a buddhist these ideas have freedom as opposed to slavery and personal responsablility as paramount.i think that its a perspective over looked or just never visited on these boards wich is why i post them.so i can certainly understand the kneejerk reactions i get by most people,i guess im sort of asking for it without the proper explinations. hope ya can forgive me.
I never held anything against you, but that Rockwell dude I've run across before and he does chap my ass!
If no one objects to discussing the behavioral aspects that you're bringing up here, I'm going to posit that it is precisely behavior that we're really concerned with, and that behavior is an outcome, or can be an outcome, of pathology that lies within the brain. It is degrees or levels of negative behavior by which many illnesses are diagnosed, and the reason for this is quite simple--the behaviors can interfere with leading a normal life. And, leading a normal, productive, happy life (honestly, I put those in the wrong order IMO) is usually the goal for most people, and I think it's the treatment goal for every psych professional I've ever worked with.
Behavior, and I'm going to use my sons as the example here, can lead to some very grave consequences. I'm going to talk about something that happened to my son years ago during the height of his Tourette's ticcing, and he developed a very odd tic that caused HUGE problems--he had to touch people's behinds. All he did was touch, not fondle, and it came along with counting and stepping behaviors, but that one tic lead to accusations of sexual harassment.
He was a 3rd grader.
I had to hire an attorney to protect him, a whole bunch of other stuff went down, and it was all due to this one stupid tic that came after the spitting tic. The school could handle the spitting, but not the touching. Were it *not* for mental health professionals, we may have had a much more serious problem on our hands (due to school admin reaction).
I can go on and on and on about how behavior *is* the problem, regardless of the underlying cause, but it'll explode the thread. I just want to show that behavior should be part of the diagnostic.
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Now if I take an OCD test I would score much higher.
Now if I take an OCD test I would score much higher.
