Haha I have left a 100 watt incandescent bulb on for the last week and a half of flower once.
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GMax
I thought the green bulb had no effect on the dark cycle.. it is only one from walmart so maybe it is just painted green and not actually green light... I had never even seen my plants at night til about a year ago
I have done what you are talking about too many times....that's why I always take pics at the flip... cause I would unplug the lamps, and use a lightbulb for the pics and then plug the lamps back in and forget to turn the light back off
....happened so many times that I said fuck it... I was either gonna be there at the perfect time to take pics or you have to deal with hps pictures
did your plants start revegging..?
I have done what you are talking about too many times....that's why I always take pics at the flip... cause I would unplug the lamps, and use a lightbulb for the pics and then plug the lamps back in and forget to turn the light back off
....happened so many times that I said fuck it... I was either gonna be there at the perfect time to take pics or you have to deal with hps pictures did your plants start revegging..?
I trimmed them as quick as I could. Luckily the plants closest to the bulb were done first and had reflectix on the back of the screen facing the bulb.
If I were you I'd either unplug that green light when you aren't using it or get a clapper like you mentioned. Green light for an hour or so while you're working is definitely better than having the lights on during that time. But having the green light on all through the dark cycle, every night, seems like a recipe for trouble.
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GMax
I looked for clappers everywhere...they must need to be ordered offline or are no longer made...it is hard for me to find the lamp switch in total darkeness
and it wouldn't have happened if I had the reflectix up properly
Anti, I am gonna write up descriptions for those systems in a min, what is the program you use to make those drawings again..? I may just hand draw it and snap some pics
and it wouldn't have happened if I had the reflectix up properly
Anti, I am gonna write up descriptions for those systems in a min, what is the program you use to make those drawings again..? I may just hand draw it and snap some pics
Sketchup
It's a google product
f*ck I just tried to hit "cmd + enter" to send this post. I am not in Outlook. Doh.
It's a google product
f*ck I just tried to hit "cmd + enter" to send this post. I am not in Outlook. Doh.
Yeah. Silver's right. I use Sketchup by Google. The free version. It rules for this sort of thing.
On the "find the switch in total darkness" tip, why not put a green light at the top of the steps to your basement? That way you could turn a light on as you're going down....
Just thoughts.
On the "find the switch in total darkness" tip, why not put a green light at the top of the steps to your basement? That way you could turn a light on as you're going down....
Just thoughts.
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GMax
it doesn't really work like that... I have a lightswitch at the top of the stairs, but my grow is at the bottom and around the corners...when you get to the bottom there is a door to your left, which I removed and replaced with a tarp zip up
once I go through that first tarp door I am in the "lung room" which is more just the area that is around the outside of both my flowering tents , which isn't lit at all
so I go through the first tarp door, zip it up, now in lung room, go through the second zipper to the actual tent and zip it up,and now I in the flower room.... and at this point I need night vision goggles to see anything
right now my lamp is on the opposite side of the tent from the door, my best bet is to run a extension cord and have it right next to the door (I think I just solved it) so I don't have to travel far blind, and I can just get used to reaching for exacty where its at
I just downloaded the sketchup....bout to make a little art
once I go through that first tarp door I am in the "lung room" which is more just the area that is around the outside of both my flowering tents , which isn't lit at all
so I go through the first tarp door, zip it up, now in lung room, go through the second zipper to the actual tent and zip it up,and now I in the flower room.... and at this point I need night vision goggles to see anything
right now my lamp is on the opposite side of the tent from the door, my best bet is to run a extension cord and have it right next to the door (I think I just solved it) so I don't have to travel far blind, and I can just get used to reaching for exacty where its at
I just downloaded the sketchup....bout to make a little art
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DHF
Let`s get it on.......Love that sketchup shit ya`ll young'uns fuck with.....Hell.....
I can barely hunt , peck , and type , so show us some shit Bro.......and hey......
"Green Eye Tasklights " hook on yer ears like a bluetooth cellphone thingy , so the green painted incandescent bulb can be done away with....anyways....thoughts to ponder....
Good luck.....DHF.......
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Holmes, I got ya on this. Go buy a bottle of Mountain Dew. Pour that shit down the drain.
Cut the green plastic into squares, large enough to tape over the end of a flashlight. I used probably 6-7 layers just to make sure I'm green enough. Ta da!
Or, if you use the Amazon thing, I think you'll be able to find a green headlamp for about $15.
Edit: I have a trouble lamp w a green CFL hanging at the top/center of my flower room. I also have a rigged up flashlight. I use the flashlight to maneuver my way into the cab in the dark, and once I'm in there, I just flip on the trouble light. Saves me from fumbling around in the dark to find the trouble light, and also saves me from having to hold the flashlight with my teeth while using two hands on a pot/whatever.
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Let`s get it on.......Love that sketchup shit ya`ll young'uns fuck with.....Hell.....
I can barely hunt , peck , and type , so show us some shit Bro.......and hey......
"Green Eye Tasklights " hook on yer ears like a bluetooth cellphone thingy , so the green painted incandescent bulb can be done away with....anyways....thoughts to ponder....
Good luck.....DHF.......
yeah I like the sketchup drawings anti does..and it wont make as much sense without a picture... if I tried to explain the WW in words it wouldn't make as much sense
I gonna try get them drawn up today
good looking out on the green head piece... I have seen them at the hydro store, and never showed them any thought...now I probably grab a pair...they need top make them with a magnifying eye glass piece also
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Holmes, I got ya on this. Go buy a bottle of Mountain Dew. Pour that shit down the drain.
Cut the green plastic into squares, large enough to tape over the end of a flashlight. I used probably 6-7 layers just to make sure I'm green enough. Ta da!
Or, if you use the Amazon thing, I think you'll be able to find a green headlamp for about $15.
Edit: I have a trouble lamp w a green CFL hanging at the top/center of my flower room. I also have a rigged up flashlight. I use the flashlight to maneuver my way into the cab in the dark, and once I'm in there, I just flip on the trouble light. Saves me from fumbling around in the dark to find the trouble light, and also saves me from having to hold the flashlight with my teeth while using two hands on a pot/whatever.
seems like a perfectly good waste of mountain dew... I prefer the diet double dew anyways
all joking aside that sounds like a great idea..and if I order the headpiece I will check out Amazon first... thanks homey
seems like a perfectly good waste of mountain dew... I prefer the diet double dew anyways
Yeh what the hell use sprite, or seven up.
As ashamed as I am to admit it, that came from a High Times issue, probably 15 years back.
I'm old. And therefore, no fun.
I'm old. And therefore, no fun.
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I 'unno 'bout that, I love you old guys struttin' around the place dealin' out what-for and how-to to all us young'uns. Fun to watch.
This is my Burning Man headlamp that I now use in the garden, love this thing. Slapping this on and a pair of welding glasses and I feel like I'm stepping into Bartertown.
This is my Burning Man headlamp that I now use in the garden, love this thing. Slapping this on and a pair of welding glasses and I feel like I'm stepping into Bartertown.
Zacklee. There's this'n, which is ideal for us nighttime idiots.
The funny thing is that it's not much more $$ than the trouble lamp & green bulb I roll with.
But I have to say, the trouble lamp & green bulb seems much more utilitarian. Makes the whole room awash in an uninterrupting green glow.
The funny thing is that it's not much more $$ than the trouble lamp & green bulb I roll with.
But I have to say, the trouble lamp & green bulb seems much more utilitarian. Makes the whole room awash in an uninterrupting green glow.
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LMAO........KitKat got lights on and lights off NAILED.....
That headlamp looks waaay easier ta use if it puts out as much light ta work the plants with just the green bulb on as the tasklights....and...
# 5 welders goggles as well fer lights on antics of dodging bare bulbs , scorched skin and hair........and SH.....As Dbro said.......
You aight in my book , and helpin folks young and old`s what it`s all about , so you keep up the good work old fart....and now.....
Back to our regularly scheduled program........
.......Peace.....Freds.....
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GMax
thanks everyone for the responses...
so here is the ideas for the systems... I tried using the google sketchup but I am not as good as Anti... I hand drew some pics, hopefully they help
I had both these ideas when I was stoned but the more I think about it, the more solid they seem...they are not really "new", they are just variations of the WW for different styles of vert growing...because pretty much anything can be built with PVC......I try my best to explain
both these systems use pvc and wyes
system 1
this is for a single bulb...this one actually took a lot of inspiration from Jbonez killer setup
I was just looking at his grow one day and a lightbulb went off in my head
start with a sturdy 4'x4' piece of wood to use as a platform....put legs on it with wheels so you have yourself a basically a "rolling table".... you want it to be between your knees and waist high
choose a central point on the table (where the light will be) and measure out from there in each direction (distance from bulb to canopy)....unsure of the measurements this is gonna have to be figured out....it will depend on what size bulb you use etc....this system also uses wyes, so they have to be accounted for#
but once you know how far away they need to be, drill yourself a 4'' hole in each spot through the wooden platform....or you can go 3'' if you want to use that size pvc.... now the actual pvc will fall right through the hole you drilled, but the wyes are bigger width and will not.... so you take a section of pvc and thread it through the hole, glue it to a coupling on top, and a coupling underneath, and now it is basically attached to the table and sturdy and you can begin to add your wye rows and later have them be detachable
add you wyes row.....2-3 wyes high.... to each drilled hole until you have a circle around the bulb....the pro to this is you can have as many or as little rows as you want.... I would try to squeeze 8 in with little veg time....
then underneath you can just put a large enough container to catch the water and just leave the wye pipes open ended to drain..... or you can do something else, be creative....it is possible in at least 3 different ways
the system is just the frame, it is up to you what you wanna do with it.... you can run it aero if you want.... or you could fill the pipes with hydroton, and put a shower drain cap on the underneath coupling to hold in the rocks in ....and then run drip lines to each section...and after harvest you remove the drain cap and let all the rocks fall out like a broken gum ball machine and then clean it.... its up to you...again be creative
and also I would divide the square shaped table into two rectangles so it can be split apart to work on canopy....a pulley system so you can lift the bulb above the plants and then just slide it out and you are in the middle and can reach any plant for maintenance..little chicken wire for plant support
if my pics aren't good enough....go to JBonez thread and look at the whole room shot...and then imagine the platform slightly higher, with a square rez underneath and the octagonal pieces of pvc he uses to give the grow its shape, replaced with a pipes o' wyes
system 2
this is basically a rectangle shaped WW that is 2-3 wyes high for the rows of vert bulbs/stadium grows....
same exact thing, you put it on wheels... drain holes in the bottom.....except no 22 degree elbows.. which is actually a pro because you can put the rows closer together... my old system the rows are too close.... with the WW they are kinda far... with this setup the probably be just right
build yourself a base with 2 3/4'' length sections of pvc and tees... go as many rows long as you want/can and then add a 90 degree elbow so you can have another 1-2 rows of wyes (plants) along the width sides also....
divide into two systems so it can be opened up and enter the canopy
again a WW that is rectangle and 2-3 wyes high...with a system like this you should be able to get away with a powerful pond pump since you don't have to pump very high.. you can even build a platform that attaches to the base of the system so the rez will move with the system when you roll it
just some ideas I wanted to throw out there and maybe get some opinions on.... there are great minds in this vert section, of all ages ... I personally wanna build and fiddle around with both of these systems when I got the space
so here is the ideas for the systems... I tried using the google sketchup but I am not as good as Anti... I hand drew some pics, hopefully they help
I had both these ideas when I was stoned but the more I think about it, the more solid they seem...they are not really "new", they are just variations of the WW for different styles of vert growing...because pretty much anything can be built with PVC......I try my best to explain
both these systems use pvc and wyes
system 1
this is for a single bulb...this one actually took a lot of inspiration from Jbonez killer setup
I was just looking at his grow one day and a lightbulb went off in my head start with a sturdy 4'x4' piece of wood to use as a platform....put legs on it with wheels so you have yourself a basically a "rolling table".... you want it to be between your knees and waist high
choose a central point on the table (where the light will be) and measure out from there in each direction (distance from bulb to canopy)....unsure of the measurements this is gonna have to be figured out....it will depend on what size bulb you use etc....this system also uses wyes, so they have to be accounted for#
but once you know how far away they need to be, drill yourself a 4'' hole in each spot through the wooden platform....or you can go 3'' if you want to use that size pvc.... now the actual pvc will fall right through the hole you drilled, but the wyes are bigger width and will not.... so you take a section of pvc and thread it through the hole, glue it to a coupling on top, and a coupling underneath, and now it is basically attached to the table and sturdy and you can begin to add your wye rows and later have them be detachable
add you wyes row.....2-3 wyes high.... to each drilled hole until you have a circle around the bulb....the pro to this is you can have as many or as little rows as you want.... I would try to squeeze 8 in with little veg time....
then underneath you can just put a large enough container to catch the water and just leave the wye pipes open ended to drain..... or you can do something else, be creative....it is possible in at least 3 different ways
the system is just the frame, it is up to you what you wanna do with it.... you can run it aero if you want.... or you could fill the pipes with hydroton, and put a shower drain cap on the underneath coupling to hold in the rocks in ....and then run drip lines to each section...and after harvest you remove the drain cap and let all the rocks fall out like a broken gum ball machine and then clean it.... its up to you...again be creative
and also I would divide the square shaped table into two rectangles so it can be split apart to work on canopy....a pulley system so you can lift the bulb above the plants and then just slide it out and you are in the middle and can reach any plant for maintenance..little chicken wire for plant support
if my pics aren't good enough....go to JBonez thread and look at the whole room shot...and then imagine the platform slightly higher, with a square rez underneath and the octagonal pieces of pvc he uses to give the grow its shape, replaced with a pipes o' wyes
system 2
this is basically a rectangle shaped WW that is 2-3 wyes high for the rows of vert bulbs/stadium grows....
same exact thing, you put it on wheels... drain holes in the bottom.....except no 22 degree elbows.. which is actually a pro because you can put the rows closer together... my old system the rows are too close.... with the WW they are kinda far... with this setup the probably be just right
build yourself a base with 2 3/4'' length sections of pvc and tees... go as many rows long as you want/can and then add a 90 degree elbow so you can have another 1-2 rows of wyes (plants) along the width sides also....
divide into two systems so it can be opened up and enter the canopy
again a WW that is rectangle and 2-3 wyes high...with a system like this you should be able to get away with a powerful pond pump since you don't have to pump very high.. you can even build a platform that attaches to the base of the system so the rez will move with the system when you roll it
just some ideas I wanted to throw out there and maybe get some opinions on.... there are great minds in this vert section, of all ages ... I personally wanna build and fiddle around with both of these systems when I got the space
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DHF
Well......Yas oughta know my vote`s gonna go with the plants circling the single or stacked bulbs.....and why ?......
Plant numbers dictate yield and bare bulbs blast 360 degrees sideways , so what better use of sq/cu ftg and proper watts per sq ft than a simulated Coli setup.......I will say this though......
First setup I ever saw Heath run with 2 side by side bare bulbs was with 87+/- seedplants on a breeding project with fully rooted cuts straight flipped to 12/12 to fill in the sideways canopy....and.....
The plants were on different levels up and around all 4 walls of a 4 x 6 rectangle , and outta nowhere his ass pulled lil over 4 lbs on a fukin pheno hunt with beans he`d made.....and that`s when......
I hadta re-evaluate my gameplan and goals , and once I wrapped my head around it........I never looked back......so.....
The stadium setup type thingy has potential as well cuz it`s not staggered back and away from the lights like a stadium grow , but rather like Heaths "bookshelf" type setup where all ythe smaller plants get equal lumens from the get instead of the further away plants sufferin from what I`ve seen over the yrs........that said....
Gbro.....Build 1 of each for a side by side to show the community howta rock this shit......but......Side by side overlap with bare bulbs inline and next to each other will have a hard time competin with stacked bulbs IME........and why ?.......
Cuz lumens fall off underneath a bare bulb and it loses efficiency with the quickness , but if they`re stacked at optimum distances between each bulb above and below , then.....
The tops of the bulbs take care of the lumenloss from the bottoms of the bulbs directly above em for a win win situation IME......but.....as long as proper watts per sq ft are employed the side by side bulbs can produce as well ..........as long as.....
The plants are kept in the optimum lumen penetration/plant absorption zone......IOW....Down below the bare bulbs will suffer , and that`s why I`ve preached putting reflectix on everything that ain`t green in EVERY room...or the equivalent of comparable reflective and insulative material........aight.....
Wake and bake windin down....I smell breakfast and GF`s givin me that look ....again.......so....
Get ta work G and make an old man proud.......
Peace.....Freds...........
Plant numbers dictate yield and bare bulbs blast 360 degrees sideways , so what better use of sq/cu ftg and proper watts per sq ft than a simulated Coli setup.......I will say this though......
First setup I ever saw Heath run with 2 side by side bare bulbs was with 87+/- seedplants on a breeding project with fully rooted cuts straight flipped to 12/12 to fill in the sideways canopy....and.....
The plants were on different levels up and around all 4 walls of a 4 x 6 rectangle , and outta nowhere his ass pulled lil over 4 lbs on a fukin pheno hunt with beans he`d made.....and that`s when......
I hadta re-evaluate my gameplan and goals , and once I wrapped my head around it........I never looked back......so.....
The stadium setup type thingy has potential as well cuz it`s not staggered back and away from the lights like a stadium grow , but rather like Heaths "bookshelf" type setup where all ythe smaller plants get equal lumens from the get instead of the further away plants sufferin from what I`ve seen over the yrs........that said....
Gbro.....Build 1 of each for a side by side to show the community howta rock this shit......but......Side by side overlap with bare bulbs inline and next to each other will have a hard time competin with stacked bulbs IME........and why ?.......
Cuz lumens fall off underneath a bare bulb and it loses efficiency with the quickness , but if they`re stacked at optimum distances between each bulb above and below , then.....
The tops of the bulbs take care of the lumenloss from the bottoms of the bulbs directly above em for a win win situation IME......but.....as long as proper watts per sq ft are employed the side by side bulbs can produce as well ..........as long as.....
The plants are kept in the optimum lumen penetration/plant absorption zone......IOW....Down below the bare bulbs will suffer , and that`s why I`ve preached putting reflectix on everything that ain`t green in EVERY room...or the equivalent of comparable reflective and insulative material........aight.....
Wake and bake windin down....I smell breakfast and GF`s givin me that look ....again.......so....
Get ta work G and make an old man proud.......
Peace.....Freds.....
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