tips and tricks?

[KanadianKronik]

So I have been doing some research to see about any tips or tricks to help increase yield, potency, and well to my them frosty.
Now i know everyone has heard of the 2 - 3 days of dark before hand. from what I have gotten from this research is that 1, the long dark period will make the plant stress which will = it producing more crystals to try and protect itself. 2 is that well the plants are asleep (dark) that all the salts and stuff within the stems and such drain back down into the roots, and it will give you a smoother smoke.
I have also read that putting a nail, thumb tacks, toothpick, or one book even said to cut it with a knife and put a thin piece of wood in the stem just above the soil line...
Then there is molasses, which i heard will be used within the soil to help break down the organic ferts, fast so the plant can use them quicker.
I have heard of using a uvb light as the uvb's will break down the crystals and so the plant will go into over drive to replace the broken down ones and even produce extra in the intention that they will be broken down.
A black light was said by someone, somewhere, but i never really heard much about it, so i dont think it will do anything.
A dehumidifier to get the RH down to 20% 25% so the plant produces extra crystals to protect the plant from drying out.
Not flushing if you use organic ferts as flushing is only needed for chems, :S and by not flushing you get another 1 - 2 weeks of ferts to help grow.
I feel that there is more, but i cant think of anything right now.

So now to the point of all this, what you You think of this? So far the only thing out of all this i am trying is the uvb light, but only started it yesterday and dont have a controlled test so i cant say anything about it. But I mostly just want to know who has tried and tested the stuff said above, and if you have any other tricks or tips to get our plants working over time.

IDK im tired right now,
kk

 

[KanadianKronik]

oh i forgot to say that i have also been cutting leafs of like crazy, ever since they got the 3rd nodes i was slowly cutting leafs, then after the 12/12 flip i went to town and have been cutting about a hand full off about every 2 - 3 days. they are only about 12 - 16 inches tall, and once again i dont have a control to see if this is going for a positive or negative, but what i can say is as someone who used to have fruit trees. is that it does make sense. i mean the leafs are there to grow the plant, but the buds are the fruits of the plants. and well like tomatos and other fruits you want the sun hitting the fruit to rippen it and make it nice and juicy. this also go's with the not flushing thing, when i read not to flush the guy used a garden as an example. if you have a garden full of tomatos your not going to flush them before eating, and you wont taste the difference when using organics properly. so why do it with bud? im just saying this myself but it kinda makes sence. what do you think?
kk

 

[moonymonkey]

just dont go to crazy on to many plants ,use one to see results.the funny thing for me i been into this for a while,an found by reading alot of great growers posts,lik vic high,...there advice always echo,s in ur head wen u go to do something,and ALWAYS bite u in the ass in the endxxxxx....nothin but the truth on this site..she b a rockingxxx moon/starting 2 fell lik ole times at og....he he

 

[monsoon]

The leaves are the powerhouses for the plant. They collect the light and turn it into energy for the plant...which THEN grows the buds. Light hitting the bud is a good thing, but not if you are stripping off leaves to do it.

Ever think about more light or more points of light rather than stripping the plant bare? More light means bigger everything.

Think about what happens in nature. Are there legions of noobs walking around the world stripping leaves from plants so they grow "better". Nope. You shouldn't either.

good luck

 

[WelderDan]

Monsoon is correct. Stripping leaves is like taking the engine out of your car to make it faster. Doesn't make much sense.

Tuck them out of the way, or in some cases selectively snip one here or there. Contrary to what a lot of people say, the buds themselves really don't do a lot of photosynthesis. That's the job of the leaves. As a "for instance", I have noted that the buds on the shaded side of the plant are every bit as large and dense as the ones on the side that gets direct light. Kinda shoots that whole theory to shit, no?

24-48 hours of dark before the chop? Another wives tale. Does NOTHING.

Nails, tacks, breaking the stem to increase resin production. More bullshit.

Feed 'em right, maintain proper PH and proper light regimen.

As an old timer once told me, "leave 'em the fuck ALONE". None of that shit happens in nature, and you're doing more harm than good.

The only thing I do is LST.

8 dry zips from this one



7 dry zips from this one



Both were about 18 inches when I flipped to 12/12. No stripping leaves, only a little LST on the CB x C99. Nothing but PBP nutes, no bloom boosters, no "tricks", just TLC

 

[OrganicOzarks]

Just about all of the shit you listed is B.S. If your plants are healthy they will get big, and frosty. Would you convert your house to solar, but then later remove the solar panels? Then why would you remove the leaves of the plant? The only tip i can advise (other than learning how to properly grow) is to cut off the lower third of the plant when 2 weeks into flower. The plant can then put it's energy into making bigger frostier buds on the top 2/3's.

I have tried the dark period to increase resin production, and it did nothing. The best way to increase resin production is to make sure your plants are as healthy as possible.

 

[KanadianKronik]

well im not here to dissagree with anyone, and everything i said was all stuff i had read somewhere at some point in time, weather it be from a book or online (which is one of the worst places to get information) but I guessing the uvb light isnt bad then, no one adressed it, and in nature the sun is fulling the plants full of it every day.
as for cutting leaves, it comes from this very site : https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=251621
my next grow will be a side by side, it wont be proper as they are all seeds and well as we all no one seed could just turn out better from the other, but if the 3 that have but plucked turn out better id be willing to rule in favor of it.
I came here to ask if anyone has any tricks or tips. Im sure there are lots of people out there trying different stuff on there plants. If people didn't exparament we wouldn't have topping, super cropping, lst... ect.
Organic Ozarks, Thanks for the tips, but I do know how to "properly" grow, I think almost everyone does, We learn it in school, books, and from others. Im trying to learn what people are testing, as if know one tests different stuff we are all going to be growing the same old basic way forever, and from what I have kinda gotten from the trimming leaves thread is that the point of trimming them is that we are after buds not leaves and if we are after buds and not leaves, wouldnt it make more sense to cut off leaves then 1/3 of the buds? idk, kinda i said im not here to dissagree with anyone, im just being open minded and want to see what people have to say and if anyone has any tricks that they like to use.
kk

 

[KanadianKronik]

ahh fish sticks, sorry about the spelling.
kk

 

[Granger2]

I've started using UVB 4 hours/day during the last 4-6 weeks, and I can tell a difference. I don't agree with no flushing with organics. I do it, and at worst, it does no harm, but I have white ash that I didn't have before. The rest I think is wives tales. Good luck. -granger

 

[Mullabor]

I don't take leaves off unless they are about half yellow. My figuring is that the plant is using unnecessary energy to try and keep that leaf alife. Generally, like others, i'll just tuck the leaf under

 

[bad gas]

If you can find it, Spurr, in his role as the world's smartest man, researched UV-b scientifically. Bulbs with wavelength concentrations between 280-320nm seemed to work best. Granger2 is in the ballpark for timing.

This should increase production of THC-v which occurs naturally in response to the greater amounts of UV light available to equatorial sativas.

Spurr also tested PGRs and timing of application. I think his threads are in the wayback of the indoor hydro forum by now.

Have a nice day. bg

 

[OrganicOzarks]

You DO NOT FLUSH with organics PERIOD!!!

There is no question of this. It is a fact!

 

[Granger2]

OrganicOzarks,
Do what you want, and I will do what I want. Why so adamant? It does no harm, so live and let live. In coco, in containers, with the feeding I do, I can tell a difference.

>There is no question of this. It is a fact!

If you say so...
-granger

 

[944s2]

You DO NOT FLUSH with organics PERIOD!!!

There is no question of this. It is a fact!

hiya,,organicozark,,,i grow organic but use commercial organics[canna bio products,pro-plus soil.guano]after taking advice from the organic gurus on the forum,, i was advised to flush without question if using commercial organics,,i come in peace organicoz and was wondering if this reason could cause the confusion over the flush or not to flush question,,sorry to op for going off course,,for me,only bottom third comes off,,i top and supercrop then after 2wks in bloom,i try to leave them alone and just give them what they need in an enviroment that they love ,,cheers peace and regards s2

 

[Hank Hemp]

When organicoz hears flushing he thinks you mean flushing a large amount of water a one time to clear out the salts from chemical ferts. Some people for some reason call flushing not giving any ferts the last 2 weeks.

 

[944s2]

When organicoz hears flushing he thinks you mean flushing a large amount of water a one time to clear out the salts from chemical ferts. Some people for some reason call flushing not giving any ferts the last 2 weeks.

thanks hank,,,always the gentlemen,,much good karma for this "southern man"...peace s2

 

[OrganicOzarks]

When organicoz hears flushing he thinks you mean flushing a large amount of water a one time to clear out the salts from chemical ferts. Some people for some reason call flushing not giving any ferts the last 2 weeks.

Yes this is what flushing means. That being said go to an organic farm, and see if they "flush" your food. It is not done, and flushing is hydro store bullshit. When dealing with true organics there is no need to flush, and one of the benefits of true organics is the flavor imparted on the final product.

You guys should post about flushing in the organic soil section, and see what the reaction is.

If you have to flush then you are not growing organically.

 

[Hank Hemp]

You know better than to send him over there. You will get them all riled up, lord!!!

 

[KanadianKronik]

that is basically the exact reason i had heard as to why not to "flush" organicozarks
and with that i heard since they are really putting on weight and size still in the last 2 weeks its better to feed the plant what it still wants and needs for the last 2 weeks.
My last run got cut short and had no "flush", It was all organic. I never got one person say it was harsh or anything, but then again its not a cup judge smoking it.
That being said Im going to run the organics to the end, but just cut them back to half.

So, whats next, anyone care to talk about why or why not the 2 - 3 days of dark is worth it or not? I may test this myself by waiting until i want to chop them down, chop 1 branch from each strain, then put them in the dark, then chop and compare upon them being dry.

 

[KanadianKronik]

double post.