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v2 'dream system' DIY and diary

Mister_D

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Mister D... great words great advice and almost exactly how I feel... thank you
Security is my greatest concern..always.. and if I felt insecure in my current situation I would already be gone… I know that freds and bobbles are right, they always are.. but my mindset is that I am not going to let myself be forced out…finding a good grow house is key in security and something that cant be rushed..
Now I am still moving but I am not tossing these crops that are currently in flowering…I have sped up all the behind the scenes work though…I am determined that the next place I get I am buying or land contracting…and since I have already made the transition of not living with it, then it will never even be known to exist by anybody but me ..the points you made, here are the answers
1.true, but homey was not a stranger, and even though situations like that are always in the back of my mind, I never expected that from him….
2. absoluty correct, and something I should already know from experience, but never forgetting now
3. also absolutely correct, no one has been at my grow since I have moved out, but when I was living there and I would have people over, it was never like it was introduced as “my grow” and it was mostly girls who I was trying to smash..i am a guy and think with my dick still..but never people I had made friends with or people who I dealt with or even old friends from back home… this became the number one reason for me moving out, the hermit lifestyle was starting to get to me

I know you guys are looking out for me and it is greatly appreciated

Point 1. Homey might have been considered a "friend", but uncle is a stranger and should have never been directly included in the deal. Ideally homey would have played middle man so you never met uncle.

Point 2. Powders and pills just bring problems. Keep anyone doing/dealing with them far away from you at all times. This includes friends from way back and family, ZERO exceptions.

Point 3. NEVER BRING ANYONE TO YOUR GROW! You can smash pussy anywhere. No offence to any female readers, but most women (young ones in particular) love to talk.......

It's not for everyone, but success in this profession relys heavily on stealth.
 

bobblehead

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It's only a mandatory prison sentence if you're caught with over 99 plants... No big deal. Putting in new crops at a potentially compromised location... Hmmm... Ok. Might wanna get under 99 at least just in case. The police can come for many different reasons.
 
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GMax

Spot on man, all your posts. :tiphat:

thanks bro :tiphat:

Point 1. Homey might have been considered a "friend", but uncle is a stranger and should have never been directly included in the deal. Ideally homey would have played middle man so you never met uncle.

Point 2. Powders and pills just bring problems. Keep anyone doing/dealing with them far away from you at all times. This includes friends from way back and family, ZERO exceptions.

Point 3. NEVER BRING ANYONE TO YOUR GROW! You can smash pussy anywhere. No offence to any female readers, but most women (young ones in particular) love to talk.......

It's not for everyone, but success in this profession relys heavily on stealth.

1. there was never any indication that I was gonna be meeting uncle.. homey was supposed to be making a little off of this deal too.. so it is usually just as important to him to keep his connect (me) a secret...

if homey would have tried some shit he would have been no big deal...but it was never like "what up G, me and my uncle and cuz want to all get in a car altogether with you and a hp " and me a say "ok I am on my way"...no it was not like that

I met homey and thought I would be dealing with just him.. (like I said not scared or worried bout him by himself) he said he was waiting for his uncle cause he had the money... I assumed homey was gonna get it and come back, but I was talking with homey and distracted and then 2 more dudes got in the car

I WOULD HAVE NEVER MET WITH ANY NEW PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT KIND OF WEIGHT... i don't even like selling a stranger an oz

2.yes I know, this is actually always been a rule of mine as I have learned this from personal experience... I have seen lots of good people fall to the needle, or blow, or addicted to pills...it changes people

this was another thing I didn't know about homey... I had dealt with him in the past and he was always a respected hustler in my eyes... fucking with only weed and had the cash for big packs... hadn't talked to him in a couple months but with my new found weight I figured he was someone to talk to....i had already done a few moves with him in the last few weeks that were all successful.. but while I was conversating with him waiting for uncle to arrive, he was asking me if I was into powder cause he had transitioned to selling that now too ..even if the deal would have went well, it would have been the last time dealing with homey

3. i have never brought anyone to my grow since i have moved out, but when i was living there was a different story, i did my best to have the basement grow be stealth and undetectable from upstairs.. people tend to think it strange if you have a nicer house than everyone else but no one is ever allowed over ( and you got great weed all the time) having people over back then was more about showing people i have nothing to hide..but it was never introduced as my grow.. it not like i was " here the living room, the bathroom, this is my bedroom, and here is where i am growing a bunch of weed"

but it was never anyone who knew i had bubble... i would tell them later.. "yeah i had so and so over last night.." and they think well i have never been there, but if he having chicks over he must not be hiding anything...and NO ONE has ever been in my house and then been like "are you growing weed?"

point 3 is irreleveant at this point though, because i no longer live at my grow , so that is never gonna be an issue again..having people over when i lived there was more about keeping up appearances.... i visit the grow by myself only


It's only a mandatory prison sentence if you're caught with over 99 plants... No big deal. Putting in new crops at a potentially compromised location... Hmmm... Ok. Might wanna get under 99 at least just in case. The police can come for many different reasons.

well you are right, but there is also a first time offender non violent crime, no firearms found clause, which i would qualify for...

but i dunno how police got involved in this... i don't fuck with cops...if there was any indication of police involvement i would not be fucking around trust me... i probably wouldn't even be on here updating this thread...

throwin more crops in is only about thinking ahead to the future.. if i am gonna be here long enough to do a crop i will.... after shut down i may have to go 8weeks without bud so i might want to at least have a head stash if i can help it... tossing crops is no big deal..and if cops were an issue i would have absolutely nothing growin right now
 
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GMax

well I got my biggest yield from a single wall since running SB with 8 systems....

total of 194g... that big bud only weighed 3.6 however, but there were quite a few that were almost as big

however it still doesn't beat out the WW in efficiency...this 194g crop flowered for 65 days, where the WW only flowered for 52days

let me make a chart with both harvests... 1 wall=196g... THEORETICALLY... 8walls = 1552g = 55.42z = 3.46lbs

FLOWER TIME / YIELD / CROPSperYR / TOTAL

12 weeks ///// 5.29 lb ///// 4.33 /////22.9lbs

11 weeks ///// 4.85 lb ///// 4.72 /////22.9lbs

10 weeks ///// 4.4 lb ///// 5.2 ///// 22.9lbs

65 days ///// 3.46 lb ///// 5.62 /////19.42bs

8 weeks ///// 3.52 lb ///// 6.5 ///// 22.9lbs

52 days ///// 3.27 lb ///// 7.01 ///// 22.9lbs



the WW will average 22.9lbs/yr meanwhile continuous crops of 194g @ 65days will total 3.46 lbs per full crop but only average out to 19.42lbs/yr


in other news the WW is doing great... haven't done any work to it since the last rez change... I am letting the ppm dwindle to flush and I may let it go a few extra days as well depending on my stash situation...

I am not having mysterious nute issues this time around, so the nutes still have plently of color...if the ppms don't dwindle fast enough, then I am gonna drain half of the water from the rez and top back off with plain h20.. I will do this a couple times if necessary or maybe even a true flush if it calls for it... also gonna do a final defoliation next visit or so..
















I took all the clones that were getting prepared for the WW and divided them amongst 3 of my old systems... none are completely full however.... when they were transplanted to veg, they were all roughly the same size/rate... after the accident they recovered at different rates and some not at all... so I used the best ones in one system..the medium ones in another, and anything that was decent enough in the third, and then tossed the rest...they should all stretch and fill the screens just fine

^^^^ these crops may not even ever be harvested, or they may also be there right when I need it.... a little extra bonus...working on getting some things going, but I got a lot going on at the moment, and I start school again soon... I know everyone wants to see me moving and it is still top priority...just gotta find a good place and none of them feel right yet...and I will be in a better situation to take care of all these things at the end of this month
 
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GMax

well I got a new place...but don't get too excited it is just a new place just to live in...

I had a plan but it backfired.. I been seeing this girl who from my hometown which is far away from where I live and grow (actually closer to where I grow) so we been planning on getting a place together

so I was going to use this to my advantage and look at houses with her ( because a couple getting a big home is more normal than a single person, to me ) and then when I found the perfect grow place I would make up some excuse or say we keep looking and then go back by myself and get that place, and she would never have to know about it

well the grow house search been a bunch of dead ends... the main thing I am looking for is a basement and attached garage and the most fucked up thing is I have found 3 that fit the criteria, but they are in the same city I am already growin in ..so it seem pointless..the more house I looked at, the more I love my current one

anyways we got a place and it is perfect in every way... the landlady is super nice and cool, she really liked us and let us have dogs no deposit doesn't care if we smoke (cigs) inside etc just real laid back , lives 2hrs away, nice house, decent neighborhood, dead end street, basement... but a detached garage, which is a dealbreaker for me

I am curious as to what you look for in grow houses ..?

now it a big clusterfuck.. I still have the current grow which is now about 45 min away from where I live, and I am going to school which is another 20 min away from the grow. I got class on Mon and Wed only this semester so I am gonna take care of the grow also on those days and then I am most likely going to transfer


I think I am going to continue growing at my current place until the end of the semester.. if I do this right I can get 4 more WW crops and countless ones from my other room

I know you guys worry about me but please don't... someone who DOESNT KNOW WHERE I GROW/LIVE tried to rob me...and he not gonna fuck with me again anyways I promise you that... end of story

I am still looking for a new grow anyways though because my current setup is inconvenient...and I have no practical way to run 4 WWs at my current location..which is what I want to do..also come summer I am gonna have to install a minisplit (which I may have to do anyway) if I want to be able to cool the flip flops rooms properly

haven't been back to the grow yet but I need to get that in..this current WW crop has been running smoothly but at the same time so neglected..so I don't know what to expect come harvest which is less than a week away
 

blunt toker

Member
Those buds lookin fuckin tasty. I really need to get some bog gear.

congrats on the new place.

sending some positive psychic ju ju your way!!
 

silver hawaiian

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Agreed, need to get me some f*ckin BOG gear. The standout in my garden takes 84 days to get her fully rockin' - and she's well worth the ride, but sheesh! I could use some quick'ns, y'dig?

GMax, I presume the attached garage is key to you getting materials/supplies in the house with some privacy, eh?

Hmm. I dunno. I have a detached garage, but I also own the lot next to me (privacy fenced), and the lot to my other side is owned by some old widow, who just keeps it mowed, and rarely do I ever see her in her lil' Rascal out there..

I frequently lug shit to/fro my shed, but again, behind the "cover" of a 6' privacy fence..

Pardon my laziness, but GMax, how long are those Sour Bubbles finishing in?
 

Ichabod Crane

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Does it have a large enough power panel for your grow

Can you put the outside ac unit some place that it does not show in winter while running.

Can you get in and out with out the neighbors seeing what you are carrying.

Can you hook up to the water supply with out carrying a lot of buckets.

Can you connect to the drain system for your waste water.

Is it close enough that you will be able to check it quickly when you are busy with living your life.

Is it private enough that the neighbors won't know what you are doing.

Just some of the things I would look for.
 
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DHF

Basements w/drive in garages is what I looked for in a location in decent neighborhoods......

Good luck Bro.....Stay safe and.....

Peace.....DHF......:ying:........
 
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GMax

Those buds lookin fuckin tasty. I really need to get some bog gear.

congrats on the new place.

sending some positive psychic ju ju your way!!

Thanks for the good vibes.. that batch of bubble looked extra good, I have never seen so many colors on it and buds so purple...

I am so impressed with the Sour Bubble that I am probably gonna be in the market for some more BOG gear soon.. probably LSD or SSK...I have a few packs of seeds in mind...

I am also thinking about Mental Floss also to try and take my yields to the next level.. I know it not bog gear and I have said it before... I need to pull the trigger

thanks for stopping by


Agreed, need to get me some f*ckin BOG gear. The standout in my garden takes 84 days to get her fully rockin' - and she's well worth the ride, but sheesh! I could use some quick'ns, y'dig?

GMax, I presume the attached garage is key to you getting materials/supplies in the house with some privacy, eh?

Hmm. I dunno. I have a detached garage, but I also own the lot next to me (privacy fenced), and the lot to my other side is owned by some old widow, who just keeps it mowed, and rarely do I ever see her in her lil' Rascal out there..

I frequently lug shit to/fro my shed, but again, behind the "cover" of a 6' privacy fence..

Pardon my laziness, but GMax, how long are those Sour Bubbles finishing in?

yes I need that attached garage mainly for transporting materials privately my current grow has an attached garage and it has been sooooo much more convenient when I built the WWs I bought those 100g horse troths and if one of my neighbors saw a mid 20s guy loading a industrial size horse troth into a residential house that seems like a no brainer


I know it can be worked around but it can start to become suspicious if it is frequent... like the neighbors think "why is he always loading stuff with a blanket over it" that seems even more suspicious.... or moving stuff in the middle of the night seems like a inconvenience... I do have a privacy fence but my house and the houses all around me new place are two stories and close together so anyone looking from their second story window can see me easily

with my current attached garage....I pull in and press the button and park inside.. unload any growing equipment... load up any bud I have in my trunk etc..all with no worries.... I politey introduced myself to my neighbors when I saw them when I first moved in and then never had another conversation since... I get polite waves etc but they not in my business at all...if I would have never introduce myself, they may not even know what I looked like


I have been actually thinking of running a long flowering strain in one room and the SB in the other to kind of balance things out I am really worried I will switch strains and harvest like 5lbs per crop but not be as efficient as the SB in timeliness... need to do a real side by side

the last crop of SB in the WW I harvested at day 52 but I have gone as early as 49 and it was still terrificly strong smoke you order yourself some BOG gear and I guarantee you will be happy and SB is excellent for breeding I may start chucking pollen soon just to cross my SB keeper with others

and I got a crop from my new mom ready for harvest when I return so I be doing my first smoke test of that soon


Does it have a large enough power panel for your grow

yes 200amp panel

Can you put the outside ac unit some place that it does not show in winter while running.

I am not sure what you mean actually.. my current grow has no central AC... and I am only familiar with portables #they suck# and boxed in window units.. in the summer I send the AC exhaust out a window with ducting, and in the winter I tap it into my house ventilation and heat my upstairs with it.. I have never used a minisplit..if I have to go that route I am gonna need to do some research before I can install it.. the new living place has central air...... I don't know if this is what you meant


Can you get in and out with out the neighbors seeing what you are carrying.

Nope.. neighbors on both sides no attached garage.. and my detached garage is all the way across the back yard

Can you hook up to the water supply with out carrying a lot of buckets.

yeah.. usually houses with basements have the washer and dryer hookup down there.. and I wye into the cold water supply so I can fill my main rez and use my washer off the same line.. my current grow has a W/D hookup and a utility sink so I have two sources of water..and I still use my WD cold supply cause my sink leaks


Can you connect to the drain system for your waste water.

yeah that is why I like basements.. I have never seen one without a drain.. one of the houses I looked at had something called "roman drains" in the basement.. it is a gulley around the entire perimeter of the basement so you can drain anywhere

Is it close enough that you will be able to check it quickly when you are busy with living your life.

Not really at the moment, but on a positive side, since I know now where I will be resting my head, I know where to start looking for a grow.. the radius around my new place opens up a whole bunch of untapped cities that I wasn't looking before

Is it private enough that the neighbors won't know what you are doing.

Not really, but do able

Just some of the things I would look for.


Basements w/drive in garages is what I looked for in a location in decent neighborhoods......

Good luck Bro.....Stay safe and.....

Peace.....DHF......:ying:........

thanks freds..drive in means connected right..?

at the very least I now have this new place on backup if necessary



thanks for all the responses guys !!! that exactly the type I was looking for...keep em comin
 
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DHF

Basements with at least 2 roll up doors...under the house and yeah...attached....with...door openers...pull in , unload shit.....go ta work......

Get done.....leave...Doors come down with the push of a button......simple...babyshit....

You know the drill Bro......Handle it......

Peace......Freds.......:ying:......
 

Ichabod Crane

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With the AC you want a exterior cooling tower to be hidden because the spinning fan is a dead give away in the winter. Central air or split will have that cooling tower. If you can pipe the portable upstairs to heat so much the better. That being said I have found the mini split to be much cheaper to run and cools way better. The one I got Mr.D recommended and is great so far. I picked one that did not need anything to charge, just plug it in and connect the lines.
 

Ichabod Crane

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Oh yeh what I meant about the drain and supply lines is sometimes they are covered in a chase or covered with a ceiling in the basement if it is finished and therefore not accessible.
 
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GMax

Basements with at least 2 roll up doors...under the house and yeah...attached....with...door openers...pull in , unload shit.....go ta work......

Get done.....leave...Doors come down with the push of a button......simple...babyshit....

You know the drill Bro......Handle it......

Peace......Freds.......:ying:......

I have seen a few of the underneath garage houses.. most times they are only single car garages however..at least in my area..

my current grow has a attached garage on the side.. a single story ranch with attached garage and basement...it only a single car however but it works... sometimes with these types you get lucky and the basement stretches all the way underneath the garage also.. mine not like that though



With the AC you want a exterior cooling tower to be hidden because the spinning fan is a dead give away in the winter. Central air or split will have that cooling tower. If you can pipe the portable upstairs to heat so much the better. That being said I have found the mini split to be much cheaper to run and cools way better. The one I got Mr.D recommended and is great so far. I picked one that did not need anything to charge, just plug it in and connect the lines.

Oh yeh what I meant about the drain and supply lines is sometimes they are covered in a chase or covered with a ceiling in the basement if it is finished and therefore not accessible.

Probably be hitting up D when the time comes... even if the tower can be hidden, is it loud..? and how much is D's minisplit going for $$$...?

if I have to, I may just use the minisplit during the summer and then switch back to my 12k window unit and heat the house during winter.. I don't really need to run AC in winter but it doubles up as a decent dehuey and saves a little on gas bill..probably not a practical amount, but still .. I cross that bridge when I come to it.. my new place could have a different environment and cooling needs

and I get what you mean with the finished basements how they can make things unaccessible.. I prefer unfinished basements... just a giant concrete room, with water supply, exposed house ducting, and a drain somewhere, and no walls etc to worry about ruining ..mmmmm
 

Ichabod Crane

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GMax;5536524 Probably be hitting up D when the time comes... even if the tower can be hidden said:
I got a fredriech 24k split and it is quite. You can only tell that it is running by seeing the fan spin. It is very cheap to run by a couple hundred a month over my portable, and does a better job cooling as well. It cost $1930 shipped to my door. It came with quick connect lines. It was less than $100 more than the style that takes a pump to set up.
 
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GMax

ok I finally made it back to the grow.. been almost a week I pretty sure... so I did my usual routine and checked and made sure everything was alive, and it was all good.. I don't even really get nervous anymore when I am getting ready to check on the plants after a long absence... its been like that for a while with my old room but I starting to become comfortable with the WW also...

so trying to get caught back up cause I have just been idling the last couple weeks.. so first thing first.....

clones!!!



this is my new SB tester mom...the test monocrop I did of this I neglected real bad so I cant make a good decision on yields, but the buds smell incredible, better than any of the other phenos I have grown, including my keeper




so I took a few clones from her (10 total) for a new mom and trimmed the mom up and I gonna give her couple more days to recover.. the I am gonna remove one of my empty systems and I am gonna flower this tree out... it is starting to get rootbound anyways


and then here is what going on in my old flower room..






the screens were added after the pics were snapped... I also harvested 1 of the 3 crops that were ready...gonna get the other 2 next time


to avoid confusion, I said that I was gonna split the clones between three systems and toss the rest..well after I typed that message, I went down to transplant and realized that I could strategically place all the various size clones and fill 4 systems total, and still have a great yields/canopy... I only had three systems clean and ready to go..so I transplanted some into the 3 clean ones and then keep the rest going in just the one veg system




after I type this I am gonna clean the system and transplant these while I am waiting for the lights to flip so I can take pics of the WW room too...they are not looking great and some are clearly dead.. I know it looks like shit, but I am only using the good ones and I am gonna nurse them back to health in flowering like I did the second round of the WW, and then get everything cleaned back up



I will be updating the WW room tonight also (pics)

thanks everybody
 

silver hawaiian

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GMax

Your cutting game looks great man. What's your treatment, for both the upkeep and the general filling (ph'ing, any additives, bleach, chlorine, etc) to the rez for the cuttings?
 
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GMax

GMax

Your cutting game looks great man. What's your treatment, for both the upkeep and the general filling (ph'ing, any additives, bleach, chlorine, etc) to the rez for the cuttings?

the usual practice...cut dip etc... I also scrape the skin of the bottom 1/2'' of the cutting and then split the stem down the middle about 1/2'' also... and I cut the bigger leaves in half..

in my cloner I use 1ml/gal Roots Exculerator (which is excellent, the best I have used)...and 1ml/gal sm90...

I also use 1/4 tsp per 10gal of beneficials.. I have found the bennies to be excellent in keeping the cloner "clean"...with a strong colony of bennies you can keep all bad bacterias at bay, which is usually an aero cloner's worst enemy and usual culprit for clone death

I ph to about 5.5-6 with a dropper set because a ph pen have trouble taking accurate reading with that solution

come back a week later to roots

I have a shutoff valve drain on mine so I open it to drain the water and then I refill with new solution with every batch

every couple crops I throw the neoprene in the washer with some bleach and repeat
 
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GMax

ok WW room update.....


I don't want to jinx myself so close to harvest, but I have had no mishaps or malfunctions this round at all, at least with the system, nothing but smooth sailing...

I also haven't really been doing much this crop either...

it took about 45 min to transplant the clones to the WW, and then 30 min or so to initially fill the rez... I did no midcrop flush so I only did 4 rez changes total, which takes 45 min each ..then 3 defoliations total... the first 2 took about about 30 min and the final one took about an hour maybe more.. and about 1-2 hrs of screen training (generous) .... this is literally all the work I have done with this crop in the last 6 weeks or so

i even got an idea in my head where i can possibly get the WW to practically run itself, and even be possible to transplant to the system, and then not come back til harvest..seriously .. i got tons of ideas running through my head lately...even got ideas for 2 new systems !!!

i not just gonna drop that and walk away..but i am gonna lay it all out sometime in the next few days and get opinions etc


anyways the crop is looking great.. here some pics










still a lot of swellage left


i have had one issue though... i have a green bulb which is on 24/7 cause i do 90% of my work during lights out, and i don't wanna be fumbling around in the dark, i have seriously considered buying a "clapper" for it....clap on, clap off...

since the other WW is empty, the reflectix is falling off in places and needs re-taped and i haven't got around to it...

well anyways the farthest left row or so is exposed to that green light every night and the buds on those plants are smaller than the other side and even seem to be behind a few days.. so the green light seems to be affecting their night cycle...

so i patched the reflectix back up and fixed it tonight... so i might give the crop a few extra days to make it a little better... i have plenty of bud at the moment anyways... and still 2 crops to harvest in my old room

that's it for now
 
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