Not looking too newbish from over here.
You're a natural Dave.
You're a natural Dave.
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what size tent do you have the 4 flowering plants in?
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DaveTheNewbie
its 1300mm x 2600mm in real measurements, which is maybe 5 foot by 10 foot ish ?
running like this it should be square, but when I started I was running 2 doughnuts in it, 1 per side.
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DaveTheNewbie
ill post decent pictures on sunday. but to keep things going I have before and after photos of tying the tops down cause they hit the roof of the tent. That's officially 2 metres high
before :
after :
things are going way better than I expected so far.
before :
after :
things are going way better than I expected so far.
about 4.25ft x 8.5ft for anyone needing unit conversion
Nice setup Dave. If I find a proper quality stretchy strain in my next seed run I'd like to try something like this.
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DaveTheNewbie
funny story : I had to pull the frames and pots another foot away from the lights today. damn things are like a wall that grows horizontally.
I really need a bigger tent for this ....
I really need a bigger tent for this ....
tie your mother down!
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DaveTheNewbie
progress is being made. Still in the third week of flowering
Lookin' good.
Have you figured a good maxibloom dosage that gives you a lower EC that is working well?
Are you in RO?
I've just started seeing some clawing on my trees after adding some CalMag on top of Maxibloom (7g/gal) and Pro-Silicate (5mL/Gal). I havnt had my EC stick at this location, but I know its mixing pretty high. Heck I think I've been giving them 1.6-1.8EC with just the Maxi and Silicate.
Looking to lower ECs while still using the Silicate with Maxibloom.. I'm also gonna grab some Ful-Power fulvics and start adding to my regime. I'd rather not use CalMag if I can find a good dosage of maxibloom and the others that fulfills my plant's needs without causing problems.
I'm grabbing my truncheon back tomorrow so I can get a better idea and I'm currently modding my tree room to take lots of run-off so that I can flush them down to a 1.0-1.2 EC.
Think I've been dealing with some similar issues caused by running a bit too high...not sure. It seems as though I get deficiencies, but perhaps its lock-out from accumulation. I'm not sure what I should do... would a reduced dose of maxibloom require calmag (or more calmag)?
Have you figured a good maxibloom dosage that gives you a lower EC that is working well?
Are you in RO?
I've just started seeing some clawing on my trees after adding some CalMag on top of Maxibloom (7g/gal) and Pro-Silicate (5mL/Gal). I havnt had my EC stick at this location, but I know its mixing pretty high. Heck I think I've been giving them 1.6-1.8EC with just the Maxi and Silicate.
Looking to lower ECs while still using the Silicate with Maxibloom.. I'm also gonna grab some Ful-Power fulvics and start adding to my regime. I'd rather not use CalMag if I can find a good dosage of maxibloom and the others that fulfills my plant's needs without causing problems.
I'm grabbing my truncheon back tomorrow so I can get a better idea and I'm currently modding my tree room to take lots of run-off so that I can flush them down to a 1.0-1.2 EC.
Think I've been dealing with some similar issues caused by running a bit too high...not sure. It seems as though I get deficiencies, but perhaps its lock-out from accumulation. I'm not sure what I should do... would a reduced dose of maxibloom require calmag (or more calmag)?
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DaveTheNewbie
ok #1 : im the noobie, don't trust me!
im running 20 grams maxibloom per 30 litres of RO water. its an EC of 0.9. Its only been 2 days and with a res of 240 litres it wont have made much difference yet. I was at EC 1.3 before. Ive never even seen a bottle of calmag available for sale in Australia (not saying you cant get it) never mind used it.
what I will ask is if you are mixing the silica into the water alone, then waiting 20 minutes before adding ANYTHING else. If you don't do this the silica pulls the other nutes out of suspension and it all goes to shit. Ive seen it happen.
I love the fulvic/humics, im a big fan of them. Amoung other things they allow you to lower the EC substantially and the plant still gets all it needs. They also add to quality, especially smell.
Its been well proven that you don't need the EC levels promoted on the box, those levels are the maximum you can use before the plant starts showing problems. This is to move product faster and make more profit. I used to run EC 2.4-2.6 with all the additives and got shit results, maybe 13 ounces per 600w light. You can see what im getting now.
This is controversial, but im of the opinion that coco and blumat combos get nute buildup in the medium/pot. Lots of people say its not true, but its definitely my opinion. And that's running EC 1.3 not high. Its why im playing with lower doses still.
What somebody told me that makes sense : run some plain water thru the pot to flush it, and capture the run off in a bucket/cup. Measure the EC OF THE RUNOFF. That's whats really happening in your rootzone. That's your real EC, not what your putting into it. IMO if your over 2.0 EC then your too high, and over 2.5 or so your going to have problems. Again, there are many experts here with much more knowledge than me that im sure will chime in on this.
im running 20 grams maxibloom per 30 litres of RO water. its an EC of 0.9. Its only been 2 days and with a res of 240 litres it wont have made much difference yet. I was at EC 1.3 before. Ive never even seen a bottle of calmag available for sale in Australia (not saying you cant get it) never mind used it.
what I will ask is if you are mixing the silica into the water alone, then waiting 20 minutes before adding ANYTHING else. If you don't do this the silica pulls the other nutes out of suspension and it all goes to shit. Ive seen it happen.
I love the fulvic/humics, im a big fan of them. Amoung other things they allow you to lower the EC substantially and the plant still gets all it needs. They also add to quality, especially smell.
Its been well proven that you don't need the EC levels promoted on the box, those levels are the maximum you can use before the plant starts showing problems. This is to move product faster and make more profit. I used to run EC 2.4-2.6 with all the additives and got shit results, maybe 13 ounces per 600w light. You can see what im getting now.
This is controversial, but im of the opinion that coco and blumat combos get nute buildup in the medium/pot. Lots of people say its not true, but its definitely my opinion. And that's running EC 1.3 not high. Its why im playing with lower doses still.
What somebody told me that makes sense : run some plain water thru the pot to flush it, and capture the run off in a bucket/cup. Measure the EC OF THE RUNOFF. That's whats really happening in your rootzone. That's your real EC, not what your putting into it. IMO if your over 2.0 EC then your too high, and over 2.5 or so your going to have problems. Again, there are many experts here with much more knowledge than me that im sure will chime in on this.
I love reading about everyone using r/o water. After several hours on ic mag and 15 yrs of my own experience, r/o, is nice but really is just more work and most of the time more money for additives. I have used well water and used to use water from a local spring. I think i would rather use these or buy water from the store then to use r/o. Wasting 2 gallons to get one makes no sense to me.
Now i know some people have no choice cause their water is so jacked up, a nessesity. For me my water out of the hose reads 280 ppm, and the ph is only 1 whole point high(7.8), a little ph down and some nutes fix that right up. The way i look at it is the plants would never get r/o water in nature, they would get what i give them, and for me it works well.
On a side note another grow i operated had shit water ph was almost always good, ppms were 580-650 with nothing in it , crazy right? I used it anyway mixed my nutes to between 1000-1100(besides the 580 to start with. so my ppm stick reads between 1500-1600, and the plants love it.
I had to leave that set-up for personal reasons . it was a 4x8 table and i had it split into three batches with two 1000 hps's over it. The harvey after i left on 1/3 of the table was 19 oz's. I almost shit my pant's, finally getting up over the gram per watt, so now im dialing in my nw set-up hoping to reach this goal.
Now i know some people have no choice cause their water is so jacked up, a nessesity. For me my water out of the hose reads 280 ppm, and the ph is only 1 whole point high(7.8), a little ph down and some nutes fix that right up. The way i look at it is the plants would never get r/o water in nature, they would get what i give them, and for me it works well.
On a side note another grow i operated had shit water ph was almost always good, ppms were 580-650 with nothing in it , crazy right? I used it anyway mixed my nutes to between 1000-1100(besides the 580 to start with. so my ppm stick reads between 1500-1600, and the plants love it.
I had to leave that set-up for personal reasons . it was a 4x8 table and i had it split into three batches with two 1000 hps's over it. The harvey after i left on 1/3 of the table was 19 oz's. I almost shit my pant's, finally getting up over the gram per watt, so now im dialing in my nw set-up hoping to reach this goal.
Thanks dave.
I mixed up a batch of half strength maxiblooom + pro-silicate (no calmag) and got a EC of 1.0-1.2 on my truncheon. Not sure if that is correct or not, but that is what my truncheon is telling me. These truncheons never need calibration, but perhaps I should get some known solution to make sure its on.
I the proceeded to hit my 7 Gal Smartpot trees (not currently on blumats this round), and tested the run-off. My pH looks perfect and run-off pH is around 5.8-6.0.. maybe going in a hair lower. My run-off EC however was 2.6 with a few plants off the charts up at around 3.2 or so! Holy smokes...
I didn't have time before work to keep passing 1.0 solution through them, but will be doing so as soon as I get home to achieve a similar 1.0-1.2 run-off.
Now I hit these plants daily to run-off so they never get a chance to dry so I'm thinking that may have saved me from seeing burn or anything. I've got a bit of tips curling down, but nothing severe yet (just not praying to the sky like I want em). Few weeks into flower.. hopefully a nice flush with low EC will keep em happy till the chop.
Odd thing is that I tested the reservoir that has been feeding my vegging ladies under T5s. 2.0EC (maxibloom, silicate, calmag) and they are loving it. I hit freshly rooted clones with this mix and everything under my T5s and there appear to be no problems with it (and this is on top of Atami coco with high EC due to being charged with Calcium Nitrate). Likely just too early to see problems and they can take the higher EC until cation capacity is met?.. but then it ultimately leads to lockout once I hit the HPS room? My problems in my HPS room appear to move from the bottoms up though.
Frank, I guess I need to give my well water a shot (and send it in for testing), but ultimately just don't like the unknown of whats going on in my well. It tests 420-650 @.7 conversion and while it doesn't smell bad, it did make me very ill when I 1st got the place and drank it. At that time I could taste the sulfur in it when I burped.. nasty stuff. It clogs up sediment filters like it is it's job with a thick red muck. Another odd thing is that recently my pH of the RO is really low around high 4s/low 5s when it previously was near neutral 7.0.
Not my thread though so....
Back to Dave's regular scheduled programming. Watching ya Dave. Get those ladies thinned a bit and under control and I'm sure this will be a killer haul. Make sure to keep em pinned back away from those lamps one way or another. Sucks getting a bunch of foxtails and loss of quality if they're too close. 600s are a bit safer then 1k donuts though so I'm sure you'll handle it.
I mixed up a batch of half strength maxiblooom + pro-silicate (no calmag) and got a EC of 1.0-1.2 on my truncheon. Not sure if that is correct or not, but that is what my truncheon is telling me. These truncheons never need calibration, but perhaps I should get some known solution to make sure its on.
I the proceeded to hit my 7 Gal Smartpot trees (not currently on blumats this round), and tested the run-off. My pH looks perfect and run-off pH is around 5.8-6.0.. maybe going in a hair lower. My run-off EC however was 2.6 with a few plants off the charts up at around 3.2 or so! Holy smokes...
I didn't have time before work to keep passing 1.0 solution through them, but will be doing so as soon as I get home to achieve a similar 1.0-1.2 run-off.
Now I hit these plants daily to run-off so they never get a chance to dry so I'm thinking that may have saved me from seeing burn or anything. I've got a bit of tips curling down, but nothing severe yet (just not praying to the sky like I want em). Few weeks into flower.. hopefully a nice flush with low EC will keep em happy till the chop.
Odd thing is that I tested the reservoir that has been feeding my vegging ladies under T5s. 2.0EC (maxibloom, silicate, calmag) and they are loving it. I hit freshly rooted clones with this mix and everything under my T5s and there appear to be no problems with it (and this is on top of Atami coco with high EC due to being charged with Calcium Nitrate). Likely just too early to see problems and they can take the higher EC until cation capacity is met?.. but then it ultimately leads to lockout once I hit the HPS room? My problems in my HPS room appear to move from the bottoms up though.
Frank, I guess I need to give my well water a shot (and send it in for testing), but ultimately just don't like the unknown of whats going on in my well. It tests 420-650 @.7 conversion and while it doesn't smell bad, it did make me very ill when I 1st got the place and drank it. At that time I could taste the sulfur in it when I burped.. nasty stuff. It clogs up sediment filters like it is it's job with a thick red muck. Another odd thing is that recently my pH of the RO is really low around high 4s/low 5s when it previously was near neutral 7.0.
Not my thread though so....
Back to Dave's regular scheduled programming. Watching ya Dave. Get those ladies thinned a bit and under control and I'm sure this will be a killer haul. Make sure to keep em pinned back away from those lamps one way or another. Sucks getting a bunch of foxtails and loss of quality if they're too close. 600s are a bit safer then 1k donuts though so I'm sure you'll handle it.
R/O is so much of a waste of water. I am in an area I can manage on rain water. I have a few 70gal. rain barrels out back connected to a gutter I never have a problem with it. I have heard of rain water in certain areas like in big cities it isn't very good to use because of the pollution in the air but I guess it would have to matter where your at I guess.
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DaveTheNewbie
I have 2 questions for you guys that state that RO is a waste of time / rubbish / useless / silly :
1) are you familiar with the water I have in my region of Australia?
2) have you read enough to realise due to heat that sits over 100 degrees for 5 days a week 2 months straight that 1.3 EC is too high and im now getting it down to 0.9?
just some thoughts
1) are you familiar with the water I have in my region of Australia?
2) have you read enough to realise due to heat that sits over 100 degrees for 5 days a week 2 months straight that 1.3 EC is too high and im now getting it down to 0.9?
just some thoughts
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DaveTheNewbie
yup im tying the plants back onto the screen
most people here seem to drop a screen in front of the plant to pull it back, but I never liked that. its just me. In hindsight it does seem easier tho
Noobin it up
Looking good Dave! Grow on mang!
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk,....bishes
Looking good Dave! Grow on mang!
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk,....bishes
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DHF
Hey Dave......Lotta folks don`t realize or know that sativa dominant plants will shut the fuck down and fall over graveyard dead with higher ppm`s , so yas`re doin the right thing by droppin your juice blend down........and......luckily........
Your Sat`s were born and bred geographically in hotter equatorial surroundings for as long as pot`s been on earth , so I`m pretty sure as long as yas keep nuggage back away from the bare bulbs enough to keep light bleaching/heat scorching from happening , your plants should thrive thru the heat wave as long as RH and environment`s taken care of.....and.....
Keepin lights on/off ambient temps within a 10 degree variable is a constant as well , but please tell me the tent`s ambient temps aren`t @ 100 degrees lights on.........surely not........anyways.......
Good luck Bro......Gotta love tall ass 7' Sat bitches with them Purdy long legs......
Peace.....DHF.....
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Your Sat`s were born and bred geographically in hotter equatorial surroundings for as long as pot`s been on earth , so I`m pretty sure as long as yas keep nuggage back away from the bare bulbs enough to keep light bleaching/heat scorching from happening , your plants should thrive thru the heat wave as long as RH and environment`s taken care of.....and.....
Keepin lights on/off ambient temps within a 10 degree variable is a constant as well , but please tell me the tent`s ambient temps aren`t @ 100 degrees lights on.........surely not........anyways.......
Good luck Bro......Gotta love tall ass 7' Sat bitches with them Purdy long legs......
Peace.....DHF.....
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DaveTheNewbie
thx for the confidence, I feel a bit left out being on the other side of the world without all the elite cuts etc
hope your right
mate the temp is well over that in the air that im pulling in with the exhaust fan, and that's before the lights add their temp. The only way around it is a lung room, and I just don't have the real estate for that. God knows I wish I did.
Good luck Bro......Gotta love tall ass 7' Sat bitches with them Purdy long legs......
Peace.....DHF.....
preciate it bud ... keep up the good work looking out for us all, cause we sure appreciate your time spent.
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