The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[Yes4Prop215]

SB could have been picked last week of september but she went until mid october since the weather was nice...she purpled up really nice during the mid october cold snap..

in california the earliest stuff can be picked mid september, my first plants were from seed and picked sept15th but they could have gone an extra few weeks, but for commercial sept 15th is fine it has frost, smell, and bag appeal by then..

of course the best stuff in the garden came down mid october...more color, frost, and overall stank..

 

[plastochron]

Prop, how was the nose and flavor on the Sour Bubble and Bogglegum? I saw examples of one cut of one of BOG's sour strains (I think it was Sour Bubble) and its nose was damn near as sour as many sour d cuts I've smoked.

 

[Veg N Out]

The sour bubble ive smoked with bog reminds me of bubba every time.

 

[Kangativa]

Mullumbimby Madness #1 doing its thing.

 

[Buddle]

good question... Himalayan gold that shit put out some serious weight and had barely any mold in my buddies garden. Mold is a big factor here in Maine. I may possibly run a few LVPKs again will see... DEF going to give the chemd a shot outside see how she does.


curious what is finishing up early for you west coasters? I need something that finishes as early as the LVPK anything longer then that and she is molding.

I grew ecsd outdoors last year in Maine.She wasn't close to being a multiple lb plant but thats because she didn't go out until the middle of July.I have grown the ecsd a lot outdoors in new england as well as chem sis and chem 4.mss,mtg, and ffa.The ecsd has the best structure for fighting mold, imo. The D is beefy, no doubt, maybe too much so.

 

[theJointedOne]

The sour bubble ive smoked with bog reminds me of bubba every time.

yeah, i def saw some resemblances between the two

 

[Greyskull]

The sour bubble ive smoked with bog reminds me of bubba every time.

He's posted a few times that his sour bubble mom is "basically" bubba
for whatever that means hahahaha

btw great thread folks

 

[Yes4Prop215]

SBs phenos have nice variation....some of them are very bubba like in smell and appearance, mocha smells with purple tint...i mixed in spare SB into a few LBs of LVPK and LA con and it blended right in... Other SB phenos are more lime and stay green all the way into the cold snap...and others are just unique some of the phenos ive seen from indoor runs came out real nice, with smells from lime, seaweed, mint, and the mocha bubba kush smell.

the Bogglegum was awesome, turned dark purple and had a nice melon and grape bubblebum smell....i messed up and didnt keep any clones from any of the seeds i ran this year, but i have bogs entire seed line up and wont make the same mistake next year...wish i could have kept that bogglegum.

i have a few pics of the BOG gear i ran il be doing a thread on all his gear for next season.

 

[SeaMaiden]

Yes, heart attack kush, kush cleaner, and longbottom leaf are the same.
The heart attack kush is a very special and rare pheno from Loran's longbottom leaf seeds aka kush cleaner.
She has a pine/lemon taste and smell and will knock your socks off. Super potent herb!!!

Density= average
Yeild = average
Harvest time= Sept25

It's now *also* being called Heart Attack Kush...? Just this one pheno you mention? It's been a little while since I've talked to Loran, but I've run the LBL before and out of 10 beans, 8 were female. Thing that really got me was that they were all so identical in phenotype and resulting herb that I sort of assumed that most folks were getting the same thing. What you describe is what I got, and it changed according to cure, with the longer cure resulting in the more lemony end of things. Unfortunately, I no longer have it (or the Mother of Thor, for which I am deeply saddened, that was one seriously unique lady).

I'm curious how this pheno is different from what I was able to run, but I think I'll probably get an opportunity to find out, as I keep running into the cross. I never did get a chance to try running her indoors, bet she's fairly easy to handle all the way around. His crosses tend to have good vigor and show little hermaphrodism. I run some of Loran's gear every year!

 

[star crash]

to budluver!

got your greetings & wanted to say hello ... i'm doing just fine these days & i hope you are as well

lots of love from star crash

 

[star crash]

plain old skunk

 

[plastochron]

plain old skunk

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who bred that c99 x sour d you have the inside pic of?

 

[star crash]

who bred that c99 x sour d you have the inside pic of?

i bred the line that leaked out of NY back in 2007 .... the seed were progeny of a true sour d mom hit with multiple c99 f2 males ...peace

 

[sierraskunk]

It's now *also* being called Heart Attack Kush...? Just this one pheno you mention? It's been a little while since I've talked to Loran, but I've run the LBL before and out of 10 beans, 8 were female. Thing that really got me was that they were all so identical in phenotype and resulting herb that I sort of assumed that most folks were getting the same thing. What you describe is what I got, and it changed according to cure, with the longer cure resulting in the more lemony end of things. Unfortunately, I no longer have it (or the Mother of Thor, for which I am deeply saddened, that was one seriously unique lady).

I'm curious how this pheno is different from what I was able to run, but I think I'll probably get an opportunity to find out, as I keep running into the cross. I never did get a chance to try running her indoors, bet she's fairly easy to handle all the way around. His crosses tend to have good vigor and show little hermaphrodism. I run some of Loran's gear every year!

The heart attack is a selected pheno from lorans longbottom. This pheno does not grow as tall as the other phenos, its slightly more dense and frrosty then the other phenos. What makes this pheno unique is how early it finishes outdoors.

 

[mendo420]

curious what is finishing up early for you west coasters? I need something that finishes as early as the LVPK anything longer then that and she is molding.

I wanted a early indica kush so i started on it 4 years ago.

Start a breading project and you can get what you want.
you got skillz!

I have had a early phenotypes with blueberry diesel, mendo kush and mendo dream.


2012 season the mendo kush was first to finish.
Next season more to come!!!

 

[Madjag]

What's In A Name

What's In A Name

plain old skunk

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This thread definitely moves around...from dogs to lions to beans and buds. In my Top 5 on ICmag or for that matter on any forum on the net.

I love the whirling miasma of weed strain names....it's quite comical in a sense, sad in another.

Tom, you must be laughing somewhat, too.

If we jump back 40 years or more there were x number of strains with names like Oaxacan, Sinaloan, Punta Roja, Guerreran as Mexican origin lines; maybe Puna, Maui, as Hawaiian; Panama Red from Panama; Chocolate Thai and Thai stick, from Thailand; Santa Marta Gold, Amazonas, Colombian Black, Punta Roja from Colombia; a few from India; a few from Morocco, Lebanon; a few from Africa; and of course a few from Afghanistan/Pakistan other stans. I'm sure I've left out a bunch, but there actually weren't that many available to us gringos outside of the country's area it was grown as a landrace back then.

Though this list is not complete, you get the idea: most weed had names indicating the country, then state or spcific area, that it originated from.

Acapulco Gold, Colombia Gold, Puna Butter, Haze, Skunk #1, Afghani #1, and other unique identifiers came along next, very close to that time, and added even a specific town (Acapulco or Puna) as well as using simple generic names like Gold, Red, or Black.

Jump back 30 years to the time Sam Skunkman altered the Dutch scene with his lines from California and the names start getting pretty imaginative and specific to individual breeders or collectives, seed companies, or even hash shops.

Seeing the current discussions about OG Kush, Mendo Kush, or Himalayan Gold as well as strains that have been bred by any of the better known individual breeders like Tom Hill, DJ Short, Shantibaba, Nevil, Greenhouse, or Brother's Grimm brings the awareness that the genetic language being spoken by one source may be, and usually is, much different than the language of another source. To Cali outsiders, maybe even those who don't grow within the Cali Emerald Triangle, Mendo Kush means nothing or might have another name in Colorado or New York.

All it takes is one unidentified mother or father, one unique local name, or one slangified Indica or Kush in a strain's lineage and we're talkin' in different languages. Since there is no definitive database it will ultimately be clarified only once DNA breakdowns are available for any weed being examined.

When will this come to pass? Well the entire cannabis genome has been mapped just recently so I think it may come sooner than we think. Colorful names for different breeder's offerings will always abound, however the actual sources of genetics will be much clearer and the countries, perhaps even districts or valleys, will be defined.

I think it will be cool to know if my G13 has a Mazar, an Uzbeki borderland, or some other Afghani zone cultivar mixed in there. Equally, I know many folks that would truly like to take the most "pure" Haze lines out there and find out exactly what's inside. Call me curious...

Some say that smoking-wise it doesn't matter. Perhaps that's true as far as getting the effects you want, the taste and aroma, and the cultivation characteristcs.

What do you think?

 

[smoooth]

The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

Very nice write up madjag. I believe the whole name game has gotten completely outta hand.

 

[bajangreen]

I am just proud of the sam skunkman's "haze*skunk#1" i got my hands on today. Buried them already.

 

[OrganicBuds]

Great post Madjag! A big reason names mean nothing is you have people that know very little about breeding, creating "strains". For example, OGraskel has White Fire Alien. That is The White x Fire Alien. (I believe) If you were able to obtain the same clones that were the parents, in this case The White and Fire Alien, and let them pollinate each other, you would not get the same "wifi" that OGRaskel has. It would be the same as saying my brother and I are the same because we both came from our parents. Then somebody selling these clones will tel you it is OGraskels wifi, and then mud has been thrown at the name of wifi.

 

[Black Elf]

OrganicBuds. Your latest made so much sense! Been wondering for awhile now why some strains "keep" pure only in isolated cases, based on reports. The reason is obvious now, not same unique gem, but name...