Phytic Acid make flowers huge
Something to do with sugar transportation
Anyone tried this
Something to do with sugar transportation
Anyone tried this
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Anyone heard of Phytic Acid
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Phytic Acid IP6 is inositol hexaphosphate.
http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?cid=890
IP6 is known as nature's master mineral chelator.
Would this make a good foliar spray chelator ?
If so a what mixing ratio?
http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?cid=890
IP6 is known as nature's master mineral chelator.
Would this make a good foliar spray chelator ?
If so a what mixing ratio?
Also known as phytate when in salt form, is the principal storage form of phosphorus in many plant tissues.
So is this a readily available form of phosphorus with chelation properties?
So is this a readily available form of phosphorus with chelation properties?
The most abundant form of stored phosphorous and carbohydrates in flora.
Designed for use on flowering plants and is best used for the second and third week of flowering.
When used as recommended the result is bigger more aromatic and longer lasting blooms.
How much should we use?
Designed for use on flowering plants and is best used for the second and third week of flowering.
When used as recommended the result is bigger more aromatic and longer lasting blooms.
How much should we use?
I believe it can be made from baker yeast.
How can it help us
L
longwaters
This stuff is about $100 per liter, it'd be great if we could make our own.
http://www.midwesthydroponics.com/b...le-agricultural-organics/bloom-phat-2-5l.html
"This is our big gun for use during the most rapid period of plant growth and development the exponential flowering phase during weeks 3 and 4. Bloom PHAT puts on bio-mass faster during this period than any other product on the market. Phat Bloom utilizes our Sugar Translocation Technology (STT) and Phytic acid to make plowers Phat fast. Phytic acid (inositol hexaphosphate) is the most abundant form of stored phosphorus and carbohydrates in flora. This redily bio-usable phosphorus is taken directly to the flowering portions of the plant without the need to be combined into a bio-usable form first fast tracking the plants natural metabolism. STT also delivers stored carbohydrates taken directly from the stems, leaves and roots of the plants to the flowering portions for incorporation into bio-mass. Together Phytic Acid and STT makes flowers Phat fast. Phat Bloom is highly concentrated at a dilution ratio of 1:1000, the Quart makes 200 Gallons."
http://www.midwesthydroponics.com/b...le-agricultural-organics/bloom-phat-2-5l.html
"This is our big gun for use during the most rapid period of plant growth and development the exponential flowering phase during weeks 3 and 4. Bloom PHAT puts on bio-mass faster during this period than any other product on the market. Phat Bloom utilizes our Sugar Translocation Technology (STT) and Phytic acid to make plowers Phat fast. Phytic acid (inositol hexaphosphate) is the most abundant form of stored phosphorus and carbohydrates in flora. This redily bio-usable phosphorus is taken directly to the flowering portions of the plant without the need to be combined into a bio-usable form first fast tracking the plants natural metabolism. STT also delivers stored carbohydrates taken directly from the stems, leaves and roots of the plants to the flowering portions for incorporation into bio-mass. Together Phytic Acid and STT makes flowers Phat fast. Phat Bloom is highly concentrated at a dilution ratio of 1:1000, the Quart makes 200 Gallons."
Interesting, but is phytic acid soluble in water???
Keep on growing
Keep on growing
And vinegar????
Keep on growing
Keep on growing
How does this relate to Lecithin, an emulsifier used in many foods, and as a food supplement? Lecithin is high in Phospholipids, and very high in 2 B vitamins, Choline and Inositol. I'm considering adding it to my high P-K ACT that I apply in week 3 and 5 or 6 of 12/12. I'll probably put it in the blender with water, which will emulsify it into the water.
My question is a good example of the adage that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. Thanks. -granger
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 2 tbsp. (15 g)
Servings per Container: 30
Amount Per Serving% Daily Value
Calories80
Calories from Fat70
Total Fat8 g12%†
Saturated Fat2 g10%†
Total Carbohydrate1 g<1%†
Phosphorus230 mg23%
Potassium180 mg5%
Soya Lecithin15 g*
Linoleic Acid4400 mg*
Phosphatidyl Choline3250 mg*
Phosphatidylethanolamine3000 mg*
Linolenic Acid525 mg*
Choline450 mg*
Phosphatidylinositol350 mg*
Inositol35 mg*
†Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
*Daily value not established.
Promotes formation of acetylcholine in humans
Other Ingredients: Contains: Soy.
My question is a good example of the adage that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. Thanks. -granger
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 2 tbsp. (15 g)
Servings per Container: 30
Amount Per Serving% Daily Value
Calories80
Calories from Fat70
Total Fat8 g12%†
Saturated Fat2 g10%†
Total Carbohydrate1 g<1%†
Phosphorus230 mg23%
Potassium180 mg5%
Soya Lecithin15 g*
Linoleic Acid4400 mg*
Phosphatidyl Choline3250 mg*
Phosphatidylethanolamine3000 mg*
Linolenic Acid525 mg*
Choline450 mg*
Phosphatidylinositol350 mg*
Inositol35 mg*
†Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
*Daily value not established.
Promotes formation of acetylcholine in humans
Other Ingredients: Contains: Soy.
So Phytic Acid Aka IP6 is inositol hexaphosphate
and can be purchased at health food stores.
At what ratio shoud it be used and what is the best timing?
Anyone know the NPK value of IP6
L
LakesideWiseman
I'm a bit rusty with my stoichiometry, and I am definitely not a veteran grower, but I do have some experience mixing my own ferts, so I'll try to answer you're question shaggy.
The chemical formula of Phytic acid (known as inositol hexakisphosphate (IP6), or phytate when in salt form) is C6H18O24P6, according to wikipedia... So the only element that would matter as far as plant nutrition is concerned would be Phosphorus.
First we need to take the molar mass of P divided by the molar mass of Phytic Acid, but because there are 6 moles of P in each mole of Phytic Acid, we multiply P's molar mass by 6, then divide, to give us the %P by weight.
Now because we generally represent P in Fertilizer as P2O5 another conversion must be done.
So the N-P-K ratio would be 0-12-0. This may be completely wrong, as I'm not positive I understand the relationship between Phosphorus vs Phosphates, and using excel spreadsheets which calculate ppm of each element confuses me even more. I would assume that in a H2O solution that most if not all available P would be readily available as P2O5, unless there was drastic pH swing or too much of another element causing lockout/precipitation.
Would be nice to hear another opinion on this, as it would seem to me that unless this does indeed have a large effect on the flowers size or resin production, that this is nothing more than a foliar application of phosphorus. While it may be in a more readily available form than pure elemental P in the root zone, I'm not convinced it would have a drastic enough effect to see scientifically significant improvement; granted I still have yet to read the studies at the beginning of the thread. I will try to get around to reading them shortly.
