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vostok

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You guys better make up ya mind I just heard on the radio theres yet another comet coming this way, scientists still bitching how big it is
 

GMT

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this one has been around for 5 billion years, and life only evolved here ONCE. If it was a certainty that a planet that can support life, will have life on it, then it would have happened here many times over. I also believe that life is out there somewhere in some form, or will be in the future, or was in the past, but 2 planets being close enough to travel between, and both evolving life on them, and that life evolving into intelligent life on both, within the time frame that means they both exist at the same time, I don't like the odds of 2 life forms from different planets ever meeting, never mind that we are one of them.
 
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texsativa

doesnt life depend on the habitable zone not the size of a planet ?
Who's to say what is habitable. We adapted to our environment.

this one has been around for 5 billion years, and life only evolved here ONCE. If it was a certainty that a planet that can support life, will have life on it, then it would have happened here many times over. I also believe that life is out there somewhere in some form, or will be in the future, or was in the past, but 2 planets being close enough to travel between, and both evolving life on them, and that life evolving into intelligent life on both, within the time frame that means they both exist at the same time, I don't like the odds of 2 life forms from different planets ever meeting, never mind that we are one of them.

Good point. But once that level of intelligence is reached, even some billions of years ago, maybe another may be able to catch up.

By the way, I do believe in other dimensions.
 

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When you say other dimensions, are you refering to the 7 we aren't conciously aware of in our reality or alternative realities as in the multiverse? I accept both not only as possible but as necessary. When we talk of time travel, we actually talk of travelling into alternative realities where time has either passed slightly quicker or slower than our own. That then erases the grandfather paradox and allows us not to kill our own ancestors but those who exist now in the alternative reality. Thus changing not our own present but their worlds future. I go further and state as fact that we only have the reality of a quantum possibility in a state of flux. That then negates the energy requirements of creating unlimited universes within the multiverse and unites quantum mechanics with general relativity, as for our universe to exist in our possibility, the quantum flux cannot breach the rules of our reality.
 

mpd

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I am calling bullshit on this one. I am a Florida voter and I demand a recount!
 

trichrider

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why is the universes' expansion accelerating?

who says this is the only universe?

the light from distant stars could be millions of years old, so you are witnessing the past if you gaze upon them.

they also say there are stars being born...is that a consequence of the big bang?

then there are the creationists, so aliens must be humanoid...

also, time changes when there is movement, so an entity traveling at an oblique angle to the direction of our time line will appear the same age but in the future.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fabric-of-the-cosmos/
 

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The speed of the universe's expansion is not really measurable to the precision that is claimed. But they have to claim that it is increasing in order to explain why the observable size of the universe is greater than the distance matter can travel at less than the speed of light in the time frame that it is claimed the universe has existed for. ie if the universe really is as old or rather young as they claim, then what we can see must have travelled at greater than the speed of light to get as far away as we believe it to be, and that breaks the rules we understand, therefore in order for it to get there, the space that it exists in must also be travelling away from us, hence the theory of an increasing speed of expansion of the space that "stuff" exists within. In other words, I call bollocks on that one.
Who says this is the only universe? no idea, who?
Stars being born is the consequence of gravity combined with the remains of old dead stars and new material just appearing (some say from other universes within the multiverse) though mainly the stuff left over when old stars go supernova.
The creationists, at least the christian church, holds no view on aliens, there is nothing in the bible to support them or prevent them. While it says that man was created in God's image, it says nothing about aliens, so the church would accept them looking like anything without having to change its official word.
Anything travelling at the speed of light would not age at all, though if it has mass, then its mass would become infinate and instantly change into a black hole. Though theory says this is impossible as it would also take an infinate amount of energy to accelerate to that point.
 

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Hammerhead

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At some point the earth is doomed. When that will happen nobody knows. they say its a fact. I would hope if the powers that be want to continue the human race they figure out something before that day comes. I do see massive space ships in the future. I dont see any other option then for us as a species to venture out into space to save our race. We will all be long dead before we see this...Even if we dont have the means to travel at the speed of light these ships will have multi generation families on board. What are we going to do wait for someone to figure out faster then light travel probably not. Water and air can be a renewable resource. There will not be any beef/meat only flavored as such. Green houses are a must to produce air and food. what's going to happen to humans after we have been in space for 200+ years will we adapt to out environment. I can only hope we as a race learn what is really important it sure as fuk is not money..Work together for the commen good to advance the human race..
 
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texsativa

When you say other dimensions, are you refering to the 7 we aren't conciously aware of in our reality or alternative realities as in the multiverse? I accept both not only as possible but as necessary. When we talk of time travel, we actually talk of travelling into alternative realities where time has either passed slightly quicker or slower than our own. That then erases the grandfather paradox and allows us not to kill our own ancestors but those who exist now in the alternative reality. Thus changing not our own present but their worlds future. I go further and state as fact that we only have the reality of a quantum possibility in a state of flux. That then negates the energy requirements of creating unlimited universes within the multiverse and unites quantum mechanics with general relativity, as for our universe to exist in our possibility, the quantum flux cannot breach the rules of our reality.

Are not consciously aware of. Call it a hunch. But as physical humans maybe we are limited by our mass, and may need a change of energy to realize it. Seven other dimensions, infinite, who knows. You?
 

stickshift

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The speed of the universe's expansion is not really measurable to the precision that is claimed. But they have to claim that it is increasing in order to explain why the observable size of the universe is greater than the distance matter can travel at less than the speed of light in the time frame that it is claimed the universe has existed for. ie if the universe really is as old or rather young as they claim, then what we can see must have travelled at greater than the speed of light to get as far away as we believe it to be, and that breaks the rules we understand, therefore in order for it to get there, the space that it exists in must also be travelling away from us, hence the theory of an increasing speed of expansion of the space that "stuff" exists within. In other words, I call bollocks on that one.

But in theoretical mathematics, Breaking the speed of light Is easy just ask Professor Jim Hill and Dr Barry Cox. HaHa
 

stickshift

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Sorry cannot edit! if their maths if to be believed and with theoretical maths or bullshit, then we go back to The Theory of Tachyons... so not really applicable to our physical world.. so n+n and imaginary masses
 

Weird

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At some point the earth is doomed. When that will happen nobody knows. they say its a fact. I would hope if the powers that be want to continue the human race they figure out something before that day comes. I do see massive space ships in the future. I dont see any other option then for us as a species to venture out into space to save our race. We will all be long dead before we see this...Even if we dont have the means to travel at the speed of light these ships will have multi generation families on board. What are we going to do wait for someone to figure out faster then light travel probably not. Water and air can be a renewable resource. There will not be any beef/meat only flavored as such. Green houses are a must to produce air and food. what's going to happen to humans after we have been in space for 200+ years will we adapt to out environment. I can only hope we as a race learn what is really important it sure as fuk is not money..Work together for the commen good to advance the human race..


the earth may be the start of life as we know it but it does not have to end there

i think its safe to hypothesis that the evolution of life follows an algorithm that allows for eventual permeation of life that can replicate itself over vast divides of space

makes sense since we are already in the process thereof
 

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lol, well if you're gonna go theoretical on me, yes anything without mass can break the light speed barrier, I guess we need to work out how this higgs field works and find a way to cancel its effect out over large objects and we've cracked it.
 

trichrider

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http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/space/stories/largest-structure-in-universe-discovered


Largest structure in universe discovered



The object is composed of 73 quasars and spans about 1.6 billion light-years in most directions, though it is 4 billion light-years across at its widest point.

so when will this end...when they find something smaller than boson? theoretically possible they will and possible they will find something more extraordinary than this find.

there is so much we don't know. i'd like to stick around for the show.

any news on that comet?
 
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