information on weed scene in the nineties & eighties

[WelderDan]

In the eighties we got lots of good outdoor and good indoor was pretty inexpensive. 1/4 oz went for $25 for good seeded outdoor. Seedless indoor was about $50 1/4 oz.

I was getting this great indoor on occasion that we called "Kirsch weed". AKA Curse Weed, AKA Enterprise. The reason for this was because grower only sold it in oz quantities, and in each vacuum sealed oz was a piece of paper the size of a post it with a picture of the Starship Enterprise, but the engines were burning joints and the caption underneath said "Captain Kirsch".

I could never get close to the grower, since he was verrrrry cautious. But a chick I knew dated him and she loved the dummy dust, which I was selling at a high rate. So I traded coke for weed to her at 1 gram per half oz.

I still have one of those little kirsch pictures as a keep sake. I'll have to dig it up and take a pic to share.

Around that time was the last time I saw good imported hash. I got a half oz for $90. It was pressed, very golden and the partial block I got had "ey" pressed into the block on the edge of where it was broken from the larger block. I'm guessing it was Turkish (Turk ey), but I can't say for certain. It was damn sure nice mixed in a fat J of the Kirsch weed.

 

[sweetypie]

Don't forget about the crippy scene in florida during the 80-90s

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

Paraquat was a major factor in jump starting domestic production in the US. In the very late seventies the Federalis started spraying this herbicide on fields in Mexico. People were freaking out because no one knew if the bag of Mexican they'd just purchased had been sprayed with herbicide. Labs started offering testing services so you could bring in a sample and find out if you were poisoning yourself. That's when I saw the domestic green sensimilla show up on the market. That's what everyone wanted. It was better quality than Mexican brown shwag that had been compressed into bricks for smuggling. And with the nice domestic green buds, you knew that what you were smoking hadn't been quickly chopped by some poor dirt farmer trying to salvage a harvest after his fields had been sprayed.

 

[HempHut]

thanks interesting replies any Canadians have memories of the weed scenes in the eighties and nineties?

I can tell you a bit about the Toronto suburb area from the early 80's. Used be lots of hash -- mainly Gold Seal Afghani. Nice robust black, lovely texture and if you held it in your hand a few minutes it would soften up nicely and become malleable. I used to get baked and then just sit there playing with a chunk working into various shapes. It made frickin' kick ass brownies, too. Sometimes you would get a piece with a portion of the gold seal stamp on the outside.

There was also weed, too. First weed I ever smoked was imported Jamaican Lamb's Bread -- quarters would come in compressed cubes that were cut into squares like a chunk of hash. You would break off a piece, crumble it up and it would "fluff up" quite nicely. Never needed much more than a pinner sized joint to get a couple people nicely high. I remember it being a really giggly up high -- great for watching comedy movies, etc. The high would last quite a while, too. There were seeds flattened in there, too -- not a ton, but joints used to "pop" from hitting a chunk of seed from time to time. I don't remember finding viable seeds as it was compressed, but I wasn't really looking at that time.

Later 80's and into 90's was when the grow house stuff started appearing regularly -- varying quality with some really excellent stuff to barely passable. Red hair weed was all the rage then -- also more focus on the weed being seed free. Never really knew strain names. One killer red hair sensi I got regularly tended to just be called "Roscoe weed" after the particular local supplier. That would be a highly localized name, of course. I do remember him saying he "could get that stuff without problem long term" which indicated to me it was a grow house supply and not import. It didn't look import, either. Wish I could still get some, actually -- it was probably the best I've ever toked -- one hit and a four hour sky high. The main thing was red hair and sensi -- that was the usual description you were looking for and the one you would get if applicable. The market wasn't nearly as Indica dominated -- as it is now. Still a fair bit of good hash at that time, too, but the weed was overtaking the market.

There was honey oil from time to time through the 80's and 90's too, but pretty rarely.

Okay, that's my rambling recollection.

 

[sso]

seems to have been similar scene in iceland to the uk one.

20 years of hash which got worse in quality as the indoors growing market started, now hash is mostly if not completely gone.

it was mostly local people that started growing, few immigrants probably, i know there are some vietnamese growing, but they are in minority i think along with the immigrants.

never heard of anything like this "gritweed" here, though we heard horror stories from the uk about "glassweed" and stuff like that.

indoor bud here has become of supreme quality, i was disapointed with amsterdam when i finally went there.

havent bought here in a long time though, though prices were last time i checked about 25$ for a gram, they used to be up to 70$ per gram (in a time of shittier weed (less available))

lol, that was around the time i started growing.

lots of people here now grow for themselves, ,more and more, probably why the prices went down so fast. plus commercial growers are everywhere too.

 

[jessethestoner]

Don't forget about the crippy scene in florida during the 80-90s

please tell me about the crippy scene, as i've heard stuff from it was a bomb ass haze or thai, and the term krippy or crippy is like piff, or sour or skunky, kush etc to it's just a random slang term that caught on to it's called crippy to make simpletons think the crips were involved

 

[one Q]

There's a thread with some valuable info about the weed game in the late 8s early 9s. I dont have time to find it but dig hard it's got a lot of pages. good read.

 

[jessethestoner]

anything more helpful than that ? not to be a dick but that's uselessly vague

 

[motaco]

please tell me about the crippy scene, as i've heard stuff from it was a bomb ass haze or thai, and the term krippy or crippy is like piff, or sour or skunky, kush etc to it's just a random slang term that caught on to it's called crippy to make simpletons think the crips were involved

No. There was a very popular strain called Kryptonite. One of the first indica name strains grown domestically. Still to this day Kryp or Krippie is a common slang for dank weed in Florida.

Oddly enough that is what mexicans and south americans call indica hybrids. I guess because of the large hispanic population in florida, the culture carried with it back to their native countries.

The florida haze aka: black haze, 90 days haze, original piff, or church weed is a more recent development. Early 00's. Maybe late 90s. Its a cuban DTO that smuggles in cuban immigrants, has them live in suburban homes and grow x amount of crops, and after that they get to keep the house. They take the weed and sell it in New York for grossly exaggerated prices. $20-$30 a gram, and its usually only about .8 of a gram. It got to be a New York legend like Diesel was back in the "cartoon network" days.

 

[InJoy]

79-85 in southern maine we had all kinds of lo grade and even more High Grade

the worst was this shit called tootsie roll weed it had been packed nuder extreme pressure in tennis ball size cans every bean was crushed and it was also salty like it got wet in the ocean def salt water nasty shit ta smoke glad i didn't have ta smoke much of that.

The Nicest was a light gold columbian that had a really sweet aroma and a great uplifting buzz it was Columbian Gold but the sweetness was really special.

By 81 i knew outdoor and indoor growers even a breeder they been farmin a long time up that way

 

[longearedfriend]

hey hemphut, did you smoke the gold part (seal) ?

would suck to waste

I wonder what the seal is made of... (import hash stamp)

also

kirsch:

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/319288/kirsch

 

[jessethestoner]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=191806&highlight=nineties

another thread on 80s , 90s stuff

 

[robbiedublu]

I lived in the SF bay area from 79-85 and knew a grower/ broker in Garberville very well. During harvest season I would go up for a month or so and trim. The rest of the year I made 2 or 3 trips a week for 10- 20 lbs a trip. Price varied depending on time of year but was anywhere from 1800- 2300/lb. This was all sold retail in SF in the area around mission / army by a buddy of mine. I never paid any attention to specific strain names, but it was usually referred to as skunk, afghan or kush. Some of it was really great weed, some of it looked better than it really was. I remember some of it looked so good but was a total body only stone. No head high at all, none. Not so great in my book but retail customers didn't seem to care.
That was a crazy time in San Francisco. Pre HIV, big time gay club and drug scene. Lots of great coke, ecstasy, really clean crystal meth and acid in addition to great weed.

 

[HempHut]

hey hemphut, did you smoke the gold part (seal) ?

would suck to waste

I wonder what the seal is made of... (import hash stamp)

Oh yeah, of course. Not going to waste any. Not sure what the seal was made with, but it never tasted any different. It was also very faintly embossed and usually worn looking, so there really wasn't much of it there.

I found a picture, but this is definitely not what it looked like when I got it buying smaller amounts. I would guess that stamp peels off or wears off and leaves a faint remnant of the gold emboss:

Oh, I just did a search -- apparently it is gold leaf. Mystery solved. So yeah, I guess it either wore off or wore in and ended up looking a bit like a light spray painting of gold in a few spots.

Here's a pic more like it:

 

[jessethestoner]

I was reading some old posts and thought I'd bump this, because it has some nice stories and links I thought someone might enjoy


Can some mod move this to the old timers forum?

 

[vertigo0007]

I started learning in the mid-late 90s on the osu campus and aside from the dumpster, blueberry and tons of rails and tabs, the one thing that was way different was we never paid each other cash for clones. We would grow 1 of the 12-15 clones you had gotten for the clone provider. Maybe it started with all the hippies, ravers and taggers being BROKE as fuck all the time and just became the norm once people came up.

Damn that was a fun time!

 

[jessethestoner]

Thanks to a mod I got this thread moved here. Now I know the eighties and nineties aren't old school for some, but I know this is where people will have some info on the times.

 

[The Hatter]

I can't comment much on the 80's but the 90's were crazy times in the southwest. In the very early 90's high grade cannabis was almost unheard of along the border. It was like a dragon or a unicorn. A mythical beast that everyone had heard of but nobody could actually find.

Bricked Mexican dirt weed was everywhere as was acid, much of it dirty, and shrooms. Coke was around, and this was the beginning of the real rise of Meth in the area which is still an ongoing travesty. The dirt weed was dirt cheap, costing under 50 an oz. and it varied greatly in quality from rotting, gasoline soaked garbage to some truly beautiful bricked up gold and red haired sativa. The problem was people were soaking much of the crappy brick weed in PCP and not telling their customers/victims about it. We all knew that some of the pot seemed a bit off. It gave you a sort of numb heart racing rush but we figured it was just some weird strain or something and since you get a tolerance to PCP very quickly you really only notice it the first week or two. The first time we became truly aware of the problem was when a buddy of mine got piss tested for some reason and came back with PCP levels off the charts. This was quite the surprise for him since he had never knowingly used the substance. Needless to say we all dropped that stuff like a hot coal and got to learn what PCP withdrawal is like.

We eventually learned to identify the laced weed, but it was around this time that high grade really started to show upon the scene. It cost literally like 10 times as much but it was well worth it to those of us with taste and fear of the mexican brick. I should also note it was around this time that the good sativa brick really started to become rare. It seems that the Cartels down south had discovered indica and either replaced the old land race sativas with them or they made hybrids because the brick weed became very muddy and indica-like in effect.

The grade which in the very beginning of the 90s included a lot of Sativas, mostly Hawaiian for some reason, also became very indica dominated. Northern lights was the big name by the late 90s and blueberry was around. The indicas pretty much completely dominated both the grade and brick scene until the turn of the century when the white widow strains starting to show up once in a while. They weren't exactly like the old sativas but at least they weren't 100% indicas.

To this day, indica heavy hybrid mutts still dominate the black market and most of the medicinal one. Even in dispensaries it is just about impossible to find 100% pure sativas. The best you get are some Hazes which are like 90%. I often wonder what happened to the wonderful Hawaiian stuff that was around way back when grade first hit the scene in the area. It just vanished like a puff of smoke.

 

[jessethestoner]

thanks for the post i really love the anecdotes people share on forums like these

 

[Tudo]

I had tons and tons of fun with gold columbian in the late 70's. Now THEY were the good old days