Distilling Cannabis into Ethanol? Heads for resin extraciton?

[Hydro-Soil]

Heyas!

Anyone distilling ethanol from cannabis? What type of setup are you running and what kind of returns are you getting?

Also wondering about the 'heads' and distilling them into individual solvents... figure if there's a cannabis derived solvent that makes great hash oil... there's where I'm headed.

Would love to turn garden waste into ethanol for the car and such... dunno about drinking it. LOL Distilled doesn't go well with my blood type at all. LOL

Thanks for any input, looking forward to seeing what folks have done.

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[noreason]

Interesting one HS. Will follow the answers. My first question is how about temperature.
A raise in temperature is needed to work with distillation, and we know flavors like terpenes, flavonoids are volatile molecules, tending to evaporate very easily with hot temps.
However I think they could be collected again at the end of the distillation, but I wait the heads too, so maybe I should go find the old copper distiller and clean it up

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Actually... I'm more interested in pure ethanol from the distillation... for fuel or making oil.

The use of specific solvents in the 'heads' would require them being distilled out first... then used to make high grade extractions.

Just looking for what's available. If you play with your still... please be sure to post what you find. Thanks so much.

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[dank.frank]

I personally think more information on bio-fuel processing would be AMAZING for this community. While some of the larger growers could really benefit from having a way to process their waste materials into a productive fuel or even other textile uses...

Information I am also highly interested in...good thread.



dank.Frank

 

[Rancerot]

The process is a lot more complicated than simple distillation. You need to have enzymes that will break down the cellulose in t o smaller organic compounds that can then be used to create ethanol through fermentation.

 

[RubeGoldberg]

The process is a lot more complicated than simple distillation. You need to have enzymes that will break down the cellulose in t o smaller organic compounds that can then be used to create ethanol through fermentation.

naw, not too bad, same process as making alcohol from wood.

he can probably just use some over the counter yeasts

 

[Hydro-Soil]

I'm finding it extremely difficult to find processes on converting hemp/cannabis into ethanol and methanol. Apparently the methanol comes from the woodier portions of the plant. I'm about ready to just look into dry-matter processing of other materials and just extrapolate.

Plenty of information on bio-diesel from the seeds... just not the rest of it.

Anyone have a link or a pdf they've found that covers the processing of dry material for fermenting?

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[Rancerot]

This PDF will give you an idea of what I'm talking about. Hemp contains large amounts of cellulose which neds to be processed before it can be fermented.

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/14957410/608201718/name/ethanol.pdf

Sure you can throw your hemp in a flask with some over the counter yeast and you will get some ethanol but not much. The yeast relies on sugars like sucrose (glucose + fructose) to create ethanol. Their enzymes aren't made to process cellulose.

It's basically like saying... Hey I'm gonna grow some plants in some pure clay with no good nutrients! Most of them will die but some may live and I'll get a shitty product!

Just a huge waste of time to try cause what you get won't be worth it.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Appreciate the link.

Though the rest of your post was worthless.

Nobody talked about just putting cannabis in a vat with yeast. *sigh*

I'm perfectly aware that an enzymatic process is required before the fermentation... perhaps you weren't aware that commercial enzymes are readily available for that.

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[Rancerot]

naw, not too bad, same process as making alcohol from wood.

he can probably just use some over the counter yeasts

That's what I took this to mean.. My bad if it wasn't. I was definitely not aware of yeasts being sold OTC with enzymes already added for the necessary degradations.

Thanks for the heads up mate.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

There aren't... it's a two-step process.

Enzymes first, to break the woody and cellulose parts into sugars... and then the yeasts are added.

Apparently there isn't anyone that's read this thread that already has experience in this field. No worries. I'll update the thread as I find current processes that are applicable to cannabis.

Thanks!

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[huarmiquilla]

howdy Hydro-Soil

how you do?

am keen to think pyrolysis rather fermentation

walk like Egyptian....hehehe

positive vibrations

 

[trichrider]

pyrolysis sounds right if you can recover those gases and recondense them.

this is my guess too but it's just that, so i'm standing by...

 

[hempyftw]

Hmmm

Hmmm

I know people are doing it out there....

I have some bootleg THC liquor.....

I don't think it was created from weed plants though.

Just THC added to some bootleg whiskey!


I really like the idea though. I feel like you would have to be a mega grower to make it worth extracting to ethanol. I have a feeling the process isn't that efficient.

Wish ya the best though.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Pyrolysis? Interesting... hehehehe.

I feel like you would have to be a mega grower to make it worth extracting to ethanol.

There's going to be plenty of cannabis 'waste' around here in this sleepy little colorado town. LOL

Essentially I'll be looking into how farmers used to do it and how some are doing it today... with other grass type crops. I know it's done on a small scale for fuel around the world... should be plenty of info on it.

Just need to find a few hours to sit down and start wading in. LOL

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