HELP!!! New mix for Coco Coir with ammendments...

[mightbestoned]

New mix for Coco Coir with ammendments...using liquid seaweed/fish emulsion for nutes..........Will this work???.....Anyone tried it???

I’m growing in coir with ammendments…..30% perlite, 10% Black Kow composted manure, 5% worm castings, 2Tbsp.lime/Gal.mix, 2Tbsp.FoxFarm "Happy Frog" 8-2-6 lawnfertilizer/Gal.mix (I'm thinking it is as close to soil as I can get.....Organic----and---Hydroponic)

For water….Tap/2 day letting it bubble…..adding the following nutes……

For nutes….2Tbs/Gal/Fish emulsion 5-1-1….2Tbs/Gal/Liquid Seaweed-Kelp 0-0-1....4 drops Superthrive….1/4tsp epsomsalt…..1/4tsp molasses, 4oz beer( for enzymes)….ALL ADDED TO 1 GALLON WATER

I figure that this gives enough N, P and K plus extra needed supplements for an entire grow……take out the fish emulsion for bloom…..ammendments to coir should be close to depleted during bloom…(Any Thoughts)

"Happy Frog"--8-2-6pH balanced, and it’s blended with premium organic ingredients like bat guano, kelp meal, bone meal, feather meal and important micronutrients.

What would you use for bloom using this formula??? (Non-sythetic)

Liquid Seaweed-Kelp:
(For full grow) (Foliar and Nute feed)
Seaweed contains many growth hormones; a soil soak of liquid seaweed extract will encourage root growth in young plants. You can also soak seeds for 24 hours before planting to stimulate germination. Liquid seaweed extract is a complete source of plant-based minerals, containing up to 60 trace elements; mist your plants and they will absorb these nutrients through the pores of their leaves. Alginates, spongelike starches found in seaweed, hold water droplets near the plant roots, making moisture available to them without drowning them; they also help enrich the soil by feeding myriad beneficial microorganisms such as bacteria and tiny fungi necessary to composting.

Flush as needed……

Anyone familiar with anything close to this grow????
Am I overloading on the epsomsalt??? (Just add to Water????)

I am a first time Indoor wardrobe/closet grower.....my seedlings now are darkgreen....but don't seem to be growing as fast as my outdoor growing....is it the coir???....I bunt some before with nutes I think...... does coir just take longer to get them on their way????

Thanks for any input………mightbestoned
HAPPY NEW YEAR 2013

 

[mightbestoned]

Growing in the 70's was risky business.......Indoor stealth with new technology is more efficient......

Why are my plants so slow indoors???

Thanks........mightbestoned.........

 

[noyd666]

lol sounds like a nute mix for dirt grow, i would not put that mix in my coco, sorry mate im lost with this one.
i just have seedlings at moment in coco coir took of like a bondi tram.

 

[jayjayfrank]

ya you are over doing it... that mix is called soil


all kinds of stuff "will work", don't use label descriptions in place of plant science

 

[mightbestoned]

I'm new to coco coir...........



Do I need to K.I.S.S.......???



What nutes???

Any ammendment??? (perlite)



Thanks......mightbestoned

 

[mightbestoned]

4' Vertical flouro lights /w/ CFL top lighting in a wardrobe closet

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Lighting for Grow Closet/Wardrobe Closet 20"x39"x76"

2x4x48" flourescents on the side walls 40w/t-12
2x48" flourescents on the back wall 30w/t-8
6xCFL top lighting suspended for up/down from top of wardrobe 27w

Total watts = 542 ????

 

[jayjayfrank]

i suggest meditation and lots of sleep and some light reading.


use 100% coco, nothing else.

use General Hydroponics 3 Part at 5ml per gallon each.

so.... how much more complicated do you want to make things?

 

[Daffy]

My advice is go 100% coir. The advantage of coco is its media based hydroponics. One of the best media choices imo. Hydro advantage is ability to control pH and nutrients easier than soil.

The way it sounds like youre trying to use it as an amendment in your organic soil might run you into some problems like coco moisture retention is different from the manure which holds a lot. The coco would be aeration amendment much like the perlite.

 

[noyd666]

I'm new to coco coir...........



Do I need to K.I.S.S.......???



What nutes???

Any ammendment??? (perlite)



Thanks......mightbestoned

best bet mate go to growers forum and look at indoor grows-hydro', lots cf imfo on coco growing, hempys are good choice for beginner or pro. best o luck.

 

[Granger2]

mightbestoned,
First, I've used fish emulsion/seaweed for decades, and 2 Tbl/gal of fish is too stiff. Cut back to 1 Tbl.

I don't amend coco except for 20% perlite and a tiny bit of mixed volcanic sands. The beauty of coco is that, when totally wet, it still has the ideal amount of air for plant roots and a healthy microherd. When you add things that hold moisture, like EWC, manure, etc., you are screwing with that. Also, when you use dry ferts, you don't know what is being released to the plants and when.

Plenty of people are using high nute soil mixes and getting great results. If that's what you're trying to create and using coco as the base, it can work well if done right. But if you want to grow in coco and get the advantages coco has over soils and soilless, I'd advise you not to add anything other than perlite or some other air holding material like rice hulls or expanded shale.

BTW, if you're trying to stay organic, Superthrive isn't. For bloom, you can use any number of high P products. What I like for an organic PK booster is to make an EWC ACT with high P guano. I use Budswell, molasses, small amt. of Nutritional Yeast flakes for the N and aminos, etc. I make it strong. Good luck. -granger