Beat me to it! Toker for 26 years says...

[offthehook]

Quote Gloryoskie: In my experience, smoking a little of a killer strain is less expanding than a full dose of "lesser" strain. Profiles matter here. end quote.


Right on. In my local tokers circle we would all agree on that one.

Quote G: I don't offer my sativa stash to anyone without their full understanding about what's about to happen to them. end quote.

D' be pearls to the pigs, I'm getting ya .

I am totally getting your anecdote now, thanks for explaining. Exactly like that yeh, flmao



Thank you guys for having this thread going rather civilised still. Tomorrows again. But prolly I won't get to answering all of you

 

[Kcar]

If anyone here has 'Vomit' weed, I need to get some seeds. From SB preferably, but any seed outlet will doo.

 

[Kcar]

Quote Juice puddle: This is a common fallacy, you see, you can never smoke to much THC. end quote.

Certain ppl incl myself tend to vomit when faced with an occasional 'strong strain' THC overdose, unless I smoke it on a daily basis and achieve 'tolerance'.

I think of weed a bit the same as would be chilli peppers.
It's in no way toxic at all, but it makes one believe it is. Hence the 'vomit' response.

Really? Do you mean 'Gag'? Or do you really throw up? Either way, that's absurd.

 

[offthehook]

Buckets man , buckets!, lol

(But it's a pretty known feature after all, I read some threads on it before.)

 

[BrnCow]

Stronger is cheaper...smoke one toke instead of three...

 

[mpd]

 

[offthehook]

@ BrnCow: To achieve what? to get fucked/frustrated or happy & balanced ?

I never ran into strong weed that makes me happy & balanced when I smoked only just a little. I sure will be something, but not happy & balanced. ^^

When I smoke 0.2 gram of DieselRyder at 3 to 5 hours intervalls, I'm the whole day right where I need to be while still getting shit done. (24-7-364)

I am not trying to plug the strain, I only like to show that an under appreciated strain like DR does have it's merits inspite of it's lesser intense effects.

@mpd, pretty much all threads are if you've been around long enough.

My point beeing is that I would like to encourage ppl to stick to breeding strains that work best to themselves individually... As opposed to what 'the market' desires.
Ones this prohibition madness is over I would not like to be stuck in an either super-strong-strains-only or swag-all-the-way situation.
I am mentioning this cuzz I am fed up seeing what the hypes are doing to our market situation wich is decimating our strains to shortlived 'party drug like substances'. Verry actual situation. Nothing 'dead horse' about. ^^

 

[Space Ghost]

this is YOUR experience, no one else's... why must you apply your experience to everyone? some folks need lots and lots of cannabiniods just to live (cancer, HIV, chrone's ect) you don't and that's great! but don't chastise those who do... or even those who are in it to get 'fucked up' or whatever... its not your business...

if you don't like what breeders are putting in their seeds, then please, don't buy them... breed your own...

sure 0.2g of diesel Ryder may work well for you, but everyone? I think not...

people have radically different needs when it comes to cannabis, medical or otherwise...

I agree with you one one thing... breeding only for raw THC content is short sighted...

 

[offthehook]

@ space ghost. Not chastising anyone. I'm merely in it to expose the present trend and offer some opposition to what's going on at the present moment. Besides, I thought i just wrote that I encourage everyone breeding strains that fit their own individual needs.Rite?!?

Ppl that seem to think cannabis & party drugs are one and the same thing and only serve the purpose of getting fucked up do become my bussiness when they relate to my family though. ^^

An other thing I'd like to tell ya is this: It ain't easy keeping ones head and breed just that what you think is right, especially while all the world is screaming & begging for what I in essence would call 'party drugs.' (I grow em, I sell em, but I wouldnt wanna breed em, gettit? > There's plenty of that crap already!

Now recently I noticed that there are more ppl who are in this peticular situation and to whem I would like to show my solidarity in this thread.

I also created a verry narcotic strain that's now beeing supervised by someone else for his needs but would n't be verry usefull trying to sell as a 'fun' strain or keep around to only my 'needs'.

 

[tetragrammaton]

I think it's really obvious you've only had one type of "strong" weed. I don't mean one strain per se, but it seems like you've only experienced strong narcotic-like buds, compared to strong ass sativas, that make you happy, laugh your ass off, and have crazy thoughts, while being active.

I mean, I respect everyones preference, but the word "potent" and "strong" is highly subjective. Like I said in another thread, I prefer sativas and sativa dominant hybrids. I like having "trippy", happy, crazy intense mental highs. If someone gives me a highly prized indica strain that makes me tired as fuck after one hit, and just makes me pass out, yes, it's "strong" but it's definately not what I'm looking for, and it would be boring and weak to me. Just like if someones looking for a knockout indica for sleep and/or pain relief, and someone gives them some long flowering haze that just keeps them awake all night, they'd consider that weak.

So you have to understand, it's not that there's just one type of "strong", and I'm sick of hearing about your damn diesel ryder. if that's the best strain you've smoked, then obviously you haven't smoked a lot of strains. I don't care how long you've been smoking (obviously shitty buds) for.

The point is, everybody has had valid points. There are many benefits in having potent weed. And just so you know, when people smoke what you'd consider "strong" strains on a regular basis, they develope a tolerance, so they will eventually be able to handle 10x the amount that you can.

And with all the varieties of highs, sometimes an intense sativa high, or a knockout indica high isn't what you want. Perhaps you need something that definately works, but is mellow, calming, won't make you fall asleep, but won't have your mind racing. There are plenty of good strains for that as well, which do their job just fine. But in addition to that, you have to realize, there are straight up weak strains, that may do exceptional when it comes to looks, smell, and taste, but completely fail as far as high or stone.

If your diesel ryder is your holy grail, then by all means continue growing and smoking it, but I'd suggest you at least try growing some chems or OGs and then compare it to your so called autoflowering elite.

 

[NogIn]

When it comes to smoking these days less is more for me.
No fun becoming a zombie for the next two or three hours.

 

[offthehook]

Yo Tetra. you got more mis asumptions in your above story as would be interesting to me to get into.

But thanks for laying out your point of view tho.

One thing just. Elite=Hype, I don't do hypes. Yanno why? Always when I went spending shit loads of money on the latest hype... I always ended up like: Damn, Is this now realy IT ???

DR could as well have been any kind of other strain having similar propherties.

This thread is not about DR. I prolly just mentioned it this much in an urge to provoke. ^^

Maybe this thread is just about age and having learned to smarten the fuck up, ehehe.


@Nogin, obviously, you seem to have come to the same conclusion I did.
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Lemme be clear about not meaning to bash anyone enjoying doing things differently. To each their own so long they ain't family.

 

[yesum]

I am with you but do like my GDP, which is pretty strong imo. I can not handle a lot of strains but the potency does not seem to be the issue.

Maple Leaf Indica and GDP are a couple balanced strains that are likely more potent than what you smoke. The GDP more so.

No noids or loss of function with them. I am about to harvest some Skunks, Northern Lights, Yumboldt and others that are reported to be balanced. If they are 1 hit wonders then fine. I will just limit them to 1 hit and enjoy.

Never thought about smoking more of a less potent strain and enjoying it more than a little bit of killer. Guess that could be. Never noticed it but that could be that I did not expect that result and so could not be aware of it.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

@ BrnCow: To achieve what? to get fucked/frustrated or happy & balanced ?

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Your experiences are just that... yours. They are not the same for me, the guy sitting next to you or the classroom of old-farts in the lunch-room that all need a nap.

WONDERFUL that you've found what works for you. You sound like a born-again jesus freak though. Very boring.

I need strong strains... all day. The only relief I get is when I make canna-caps and can go a few hours without medicating. YOUR suggestions are absolutely worthless in MY situation.

Get over yourself.

Stay Safe!

 

[offthehook]

Quote Yesum: Never thought about smoking more of a less potent strain and enjoying it more than a little bit of killer. Guess that could be. Never noticed it but that could be that I did not expect that result and so could not be aware of it. End quote.

Yeh, is weird but does make sense when you look at profiles & ratio concentration.
We've been testing and discussing this with a bunch of guys and came all to this unanimous conclusion.
For if you're able to make sense of this ' farmaceutical info' and are eager to get a deeper understanding, here is a link that could help clearify some....

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3165946/




Yo man H-S, Rather a terrible post from someone I use to respect.

But then so be it and will ignore the fact that you completely missed my point.

That's a medicinal methode that apparently works for you, and I thought I made clear I do respect others ways of going about things.

(3 I's right in the middle right there for you to multiply by whatever you feel like) ^^

So you're having a bad day and thought this is the perfect post to pick on someone?

All right.

Strength mate, we'll hopefully meet again under better circumstances. Carry on.


Quote H-S: YOUR suggestions are absolutely worthless in MY situation. End quote.

Ofcourse they are, what made you think this thread was supposed to be all about YOU?

This thread was made to ring a bell just. I felt like someone should and I was willing to take some heat.

 

[trichrider]

ain't no hubbub about elite or not. the hype in branding is the root here. business requires promotion.

i've only ever grown half dozen "strains", and was lucky enough to discover i don't need the strongest/best to maintain elevation...so much for buying expensive, hyped type 'hope i see god' sensationalist seed.

i manage with what i have. if that makes much sense...and i see you're into sense.

 

[Laughing Jim]

Whatever works for you...

Whatever works for you...

I have been smoking weed since 1968. I have smoked every kind of weed you can imagine, including the most potent Sativas on earth while in Vietnam. I have smoked myself into transcendant states of oblivion as well as being barely buzzed. But the older I got, the less I chased after the constant high-power stone and the more I came to appreciate the smaller, less frequent doses of weed (any kind will do).

My son is 40, and he smokes CONSTANTLY! I mean from the time he wakes up until the time he goes to bed. I am sure that he is so used to being stoned that the magic given by that experience now eludes him.

Just my 2 cents, folks...

 

[offthehook]

Rite on Trich, that's also how things eventually worked out for me after taking off the shades.^^

(Not saying all elite's are completely useless, some might benefit from just this one and only strain that happened to come their way, but common, profiles are profiles. > prolly to be found elsewhere too with just a little adjustment to the methode.)

 

[offthehook]

And hence I completely understand your name, sig and avatar Jim. FLMAO!

Funny you started smoking the year I got born.

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Guys, I feel I already got out what I realy needed to stress for now.

Thanks to all for participating.

Unless others still have an urge to drop their wisedom, depending on me I'd be willing to close up the thread.

Tyavm.

 

[trichrider]

yas get a certain age and it's the little things that make the difference.
you're offthehook bro.