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Where can i buy mosquito dunks in Oz??
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Rumblefish
Member
I think you will find that they are not approved in that form in Australia but it is approved
for commercial operations treating wetlands ect .this company sell it bulk maybe give them a call and see ..the online orders for mozzie dunks are likely to come from the States and may not make it through customs
http://www.globeaustralia.com.au
http://www.globeaustralia.com.au/pest/products/documents/Bti1200.pdf?zoom_highlightsub=bti#search="bti"
for commercial operations treating wetlands ect .this company sell it bulk maybe give them a call and see ..the online orders for mozzie dunks are likely to come from the States and may not make it through customs
http://www.globeaustralia.com.au
http://www.globeaustralia.com.au/pest/products/documents/Bti1200.pdf?zoom_highlightsub=bti#search="bti"
You might also look for the active ingredient as well as the brand name.
Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis (Bti)
Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis (Bti)
Yeah want some too,little fks,im in coco i controlled them midgys by lettin top dry out over few days,then swept dry coco aside,say 50mm,watered then put dry stuff worked a treat.
Tell ya the truth indoor ive always had a few n not a problem noticable,but this time year seem festin,outdoor i dont worry.
But yeah ive been lookin for them glad you brought it bro....
I was about to do a bunnings run but sounds their hard to come by,anyway there under control now..
Gday fellas, was at Bunnings the other day and picked up a packets of mosquito pellets. Cost about 12 bux. Active ingredient is methoprene. Sounds pretty toxic but is supposed to be safe .
Here's a link. Click on the Prolink Overview for the evironmental factors. Gets used in drinking water etc.
http://www.pacificbiologics.com.au/...sect-control/nomoz-mosquito-larvicide-pellets
What yas reckon?
Here's a link. Click on the Prolink Overview for the evironmental factors. Gets used in drinking water etc.
http://www.pacificbiologics.com.au/...sect-control/nomoz-mosquito-larvicide-pellets
What yas reckon?
Rumblefish
Member
Hey Mullabor I guess you want these mossie dunks after reading the thread about getting rid off fungas gnats in the infirmary? the Dunks are made off Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis (Bti) ,Dipel used for Caterpillar control is Bacillus thuringiensis .Personalty I would try using Dipel (easy to get at Bunnings) and see how that works before venturing down the Insect Growth Regulator path (methoprene).. Give it a try first and keep us Aussie,s informed off the results. Some more info on dipel ..Good Luck
A pest control mainstay for organic growers worldwide. Dipel contains Bacillus thuringiensis, or Bt for short, it is highly effective and selective against most species of caterpillars including lawn armyworm syn. lawn grub (EcoGrub and Eco-Neem is also good for this), cotton bollworm, cabbage moth, cabbage white butterfly, green looper, lightbrown apple moth, pear looper, vine moth, soybean looper and tobacco looper. This biological control is a bacterial stomach poison for all caterpillars, which is mixed with water and sprayed onto foliage. It must be ingested by the actively feeding caterpillar as it is not a contact spray, which dies 3-5 days later. It is totally safe to beneficial insects, bees, and mammals. Bt is broken down by sunlight within a few days, so repeated applications may be necessary.
A pest control mainstay for organic growers worldwide. Dipel contains Bacillus thuringiensis, or Bt for short, it is highly effective and selective against most species of caterpillars including lawn armyworm syn. lawn grub (EcoGrub and Eco-Neem is also good for this), cotton bollworm, cabbage moth, cabbage white butterfly, green looper, lightbrown apple moth, pear looper, vine moth, soybean looper and tobacco looper. This biological control is a bacterial stomach poison for all caterpillars, which is mixed with water and sprayed onto foliage. It must be ingested by the actively feeding caterpillar as it is not a contact spray, which dies 3-5 days later. It is totally safe to beneficial insects, bees, and mammals. Bt is broken down by sunlight within a few days, so repeated applications may be necessary.
Thanks rumblefish, forgot all about dipel and to be honest, i wouldn't have even thought about using it indoors lol. Used it many years ago when i had to battle the lawn grub in a lawn of couch i'd just laid. I will definately look for it.
Cheers mate, n thanks for reminding me that i don't need to use hydro specific chems to get the job done
Mull
Cheers mate, n thanks for reminding me that i don't need to use hydro specific chems to get the job done
Mull
Dipel has BTI!?!
Sweet as bro the little fungus gnat fuckers are all through my compost and consequently in all my pots i think!!!
Worth a try anways as the usual neem, sticky pads and dry spells just aint been cutting it!
Cheers
Sweet as bro the little fungus gnat fuckers are all through my compost and consequently in all my pots i think!!!
Worth a try anways as the usual neem, sticky pads and dry spells just aint been cutting it!
Cheers
Hi guys,
I thought I should make some comments here for you all to digest. I've been down the mosquito dunks road as well so by sharing my experiences I hope it can help you with your grow.
A few years ago I decided to give coco a go. Traditionally I am a DWC grower and I had my system/methods working well for me.
So I went to the coco and like many, suffered the wrath of the dreaded fungus gnat. At first I ignored them, thinking they wont do much damage but my yield was very low. Next run, I tried some stuff I got from the local hydro store. Not sure what it was called but it appeared to be some kind of contact poison. It smelt kind of kerosine based. You mixed it up and drenched the coco once. It worked, but the gnats came back. It became obvious that to control the little buggers I would have to apply this stuff every 3-4 weeks. I didnt like poisoning my coco so often. It might have been perfectly fine to use but I was looking for something a little safer, and less toxic smelling.
Eventually I stumbled across that mosquito dunks thread as well. I tried to find an Australian substitute and like has been mentioned the closest thing I could find was Dipel. It was a different strain though. I am lead to believe that dipel is Btk (Bacillus thuringiensis kurstaki) where as the mosquito dunks happen to be Bti (Bacillus thuringiensis israelis).
Having said that, I never tried Dipel but I recon it would be worth a try. There probably isn't much difference between the two strains.
I did order some mosquito dunks off ebay though. It was a 10 pack and the tablets were MASSIVE. I thought they would be like, thumb size but they were about the same diameter as a tennis ball. I hope that gives you an idea of the size of the package you would be receiving.
I had customs tape on the package saying they had opened my package and inside, the packaging was also opened. This is to be expected as the items looked like compressed powder. The obviously opened them to swab and check for drugs.
I tried the mosquito dunks and had NO SUCCESS.
The gnats did not go away. They just kept multiplying. I tried them over 3 grows with no positive results. Eventually I went back to DWC and now am running my own custom built ebb and grow. Having great success (see signature).
Its been a couple of years and I have a close friend who works for customs now. She does not know anything about this side of my life but we were talking one night and she was telling me how one of her jobs was to nuke packages coming into the country that they suspect have a biological component. They have large industrial microwaves basically and anything from another country that says it has a biological ingredient gets a zap to sterolize it.
The mosquito dunks had the Bti printed all over it. I wish they would just TELL you that you cant have it instead of making you think it works. Oh well.
So I recon try the dipel, but make sure you let all us Aussies know if it works for you.
AM.
https://encrypted.google.com/search...a=X&ei=AMLeUNzSNIHl4QSukoGYDA&ved=0CC8QvwUoAA
I thought I should make some comments here for you all to digest. I've been down the mosquito dunks road as well so by sharing my experiences I hope it can help you with your grow.
A few years ago I decided to give coco a go. Traditionally I am a DWC grower and I had my system/methods working well for me.
So I went to the coco and like many, suffered the wrath of the dreaded fungus gnat. At first I ignored them, thinking they wont do much damage but my yield was very low. Next run, I tried some stuff I got from the local hydro store. Not sure what it was called but it appeared to be some kind of contact poison. It smelt kind of kerosine based. You mixed it up and drenched the coco once. It worked, but the gnats came back. It became obvious that to control the little buggers I would have to apply this stuff every 3-4 weeks. I didnt like poisoning my coco so often. It might have been perfectly fine to use but I was looking for something a little safer, and less toxic smelling.
Eventually I stumbled across that mosquito dunks thread as well. I tried to find an Australian substitute and like has been mentioned the closest thing I could find was Dipel. It was a different strain though. I am lead to believe that dipel is Btk (Bacillus thuringiensis kurstaki) where as the mosquito dunks happen to be Bti (Bacillus thuringiensis israelis).
Having said that, I never tried Dipel but I recon it would be worth a try. There probably isn't much difference between the two strains.
I did order some mosquito dunks off ebay though. It was a 10 pack and the tablets were MASSIVE. I thought they would be like, thumb size but they were about the same diameter as a tennis ball. I hope that gives you an idea of the size of the package you would be receiving.
I had customs tape on the package saying they had opened my package and inside, the packaging was also opened. This is to be expected as the items looked like compressed powder. The obviously opened them to swab and check for drugs.
I tried the mosquito dunks and had NO SUCCESS.
The gnats did not go away. They just kept multiplying. I tried them over 3 grows with no positive results. Eventually I went back to DWC and now am running my own custom built ebb and grow. Having great success (see signature).
Its been a couple of years and I have a close friend who works for customs now. She does not know anything about this side of my life but we were talking one night and she was telling me how one of her jobs was to nuke packages coming into the country that they suspect have a biological component. They have large industrial microwaves basically and anything from another country that says it has a biological ingredient gets a zap to sterolize it.
The mosquito dunks had the Bti printed all over it. I wish they would just TELL you that you cant have it instead of making you think it works. Oh well.
So I recon try the dipel, but make sure you let all us Aussies know if it works for you.
AM.
https://encrypted.google.com/search...a=X&ei=AMLeUNzSNIHl4QSukoGYDA&ved=0CC8QvwUoAA
Thanks for that. I am giving them a full course of neem to see how it goes. Numbers are down on before but still a few... i have achieved total elimination for periods with the neem but because i recycle my mediums and make compost etc they always get back in.
Guppy's aquarium online store was selling the bti microbe blast stuff for ponds but last time i checked they were out of stock. Also wanted stupid $ for postage...
Guppy's aquarium online store was selling the bti microbe blast stuff for ponds but last time i checked they were out of stock. Also wanted stupid $ for postage...
Gday folks n happy new year
Followed your advice rumblefish and am very happy with the results. Thanks again.
Flushed/watered a 20 litre bucket of perlite riddled with gnats and larvae with Dipel. Did this with a saucer underneath so the perlite could wick for few days. Flushed out this morning with clean water into another basin and there are dead larvae everywhere and no signs of adult gnat activity. Before doing this i hadn't seen the gnat larvae before. Ugly lil fuckers!
I also gave an outdoor plant(in a pot) a good hit as well just to see how things went before using it inside, and plant, if anything is looking more vibrant. Could well be a coincidence but i'll take it as a good sign reguardless lol.
Thanks again for your help fellas.
Mullabor
Followed your advice rumblefish and am very happy with the results. Thanks again.
Flushed/watered a 20 litre bucket of perlite riddled with gnats and larvae with Dipel. Did this with a saucer underneath so the perlite could wick for few days. Flushed out this morning with clean water into another basin and there are dead larvae everywhere and no signs of adult gnat activity. Before doing this i hadn't seen the gnat larvae before. Ugly lil fuckers!
I also gave an outdoor plant(in a pot) a good hit as well just to see how things went before using it inside, and plant, if anything is looking more vibrant. Could well be a coincidence but i'll take it as a good sign reguardless lol.
Thanks again for your help fellas.
Mullabor
Rumblefish
Member
Hey M8 Glad that worked..Its a good thing for Aussies to know,beats going down the other path you considered. How much Dipel did you mix in the water?
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Cricket and Tennis on the telly, aircon working overtime and billys blazing, I love Summer
This is great news!!
I hope everyone who uses coco in Australia goes the dipel path rather than trying to import mosquito dunks like I did. You should head back to that mosquito dunks post and put a note on there for Aussies
Glad its working for you. Hopefully you see an increase in yield and quality to reward you for your actions
I hope everyone who uses coco in Australia goes the dipel path rather than trying to import mosquito dunks like I did. You should head back to that mosquito dunks post and put a note on there for Aussies
Glad its working for you. Hopefully you see an increase in yield and quality to reward you for your actions
Treezsteez
New member
Some good info here, thought I would share my experiences....
I have tried a product called Alsystin 250 with good success on scarid fly/fungus ghats.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ALSYSTIN...Seed_Starting_Hydroponics&hash=item3cc6c2a18f
I use it in two applications once at the start of veg then again at the start of flower in coco and have never had a problem since. Its a non systemic which is what you want.
Another thing to note that I found helps with gnats is to make sure you dont over water your media and prevention is always better than trying to get rid of them once you have an infestation.
Just my 2 cents...
I have tried a product called Alsystin 250 with good success on scarid fly/fungus ghats.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ALSYSTIN...Seed_Starting_Hydroponics&hash=item3cc6c2a18f
I use it in two applications once at the start of veg then again at the start of flower in coco and have never had a problem since. Its a non systemic which is what you want.
Another thing to note that I found helps with gnats is to make sure you dont over water your media and prevention is always better than trying to get rid of them once you have an infestation.
Just my 2 cents...
This is great news!!
I hope everyone who uses coco in Australia goes the dipel path rather than trying to import mosquito dunks like I did. You should head back to that mosquito dunks post and put a note on there for Aussies
Glad its working for you. Hopefully you see an increase in yield and quality to reward you for your actions
Gday AnonMe, Still early stages n prolly too early to call yet mate. I had another dig around the bucket of the infested perlite(along with the remnents of rotting roots) and a couple of gnats did fly out. Nothing like before it was treated with Dipel, but nonetheless a couple were there. Now this could be larvae that was already turning adult or just an adult that was still hangin out in the medium, or the shit don't work lol
I'll keep yas posted.Hi Treezsteez, nice to meet ya.
Thanks for the hot tip
Will def look into the Alsystin 250 should the Dipel turn out to be crap. Sorta hard to not keep medium moist as i'm running 20 lt hempy buckets and they are going through 3lts a day so sorta gotta water daily Cheers
The trick is to break the breeding cycle.
So theres maybe some eggs that survived, perhaps all. They hatch and then rebuild their depleted numbers.
They may also have adaptive qualities like the dreaded spider mite. In that case a dose of Dipel followed by a neem emulsion followed by a dry spell. I bet a repeat cycle of this would do the trick.
Quite likely a weekly dose of Dipel for 3-4 weeks should see them all gone.... until i import more compost hehe.
The real trick would be to introduce native predators. Working on that too.
So theres maybe some eggs that survived, perhaps all. They hatch and then rebuild their depleted numbers.
They may also have adaptive qualities like the dreaded spider mite. In that case a dose of Dipel followed by a neem emulsion followed by a dry spell. I bet a repeat cycle of this would do the trick.
Quite likely a weekly dose of Dipel for 3-4 weeks should see them all gone.... until i import more compost hehe.
The real trick would be to introduce native predators. Working on that too.
