Best hydro-system for a 4k growroom

[shermanitor007]

Hi everyone

I´m looking for a hydro-system to put in my new grow that will be 4k in a 10*10 feet room. I´m looking for a big yield with a easy system and I´m only going to be able to spend an hour or two in the grow space every day, ideal would be so i could visit my grow once every two days later on when everything is running smooth. Money is not a problem so I would prefer to buy a complete system more then building it from scratch.


I know (much) about lightning, ventilation and growing but need some help with the hydro part so please feel free to help..

 

[Hydro-Soil]

How many plants?

Do you have a concrete or tile floor that stays cold all the time? (awesome for dwc)

How much headroom do you have? (low enough headspace means some systems will be too tall.)

Answers to these will help us help you.

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[hempyftw]

Hydro system!

Hydro system!

Whatever system you choose, don't buy it from a store!

Get your hands dirty with a little DIY. Plenty of detailed links to build your own system.

If you've never done hydro and can't check on them often I suggest ebb and flow.

If you want the best yields an can check on them daily, I suggest aeroponics.

I have DIYed both these systems. Would have paid $700+ for the ebb and grow system off the shelf. $1000 for the aero60 site or whatever.

I was able to piece them together for under $150 each.

 

[shermanitor007]

How many plants?

Do you have a concrete or tile floor that stays cold all the time? (awesome for dwc)

How much headroom do you have? (low enough headspace means some systems will be too tall.)

Answers to these will help us help you.

Stay Safe!

Don´t know how many plants I will be putting in there.. as many that will fit
The grow operation will be set up on the second floor in a very big house
so the space isn´t a problem nether. If needed the grow room can expand or so.
I´m not sure about the floor but it isn´t concrete or tile that I know. The ceiling is 8feet.

I was thinking of putting in something like this
http://www.igrowhydro.com/Ebb-N-Gro_36_site_kit.aspx

What do you think? Or a better question, how would you do it? The main thought is to have a easy to handel grow operation that yields big time.

peace and love

 

[shermanitor007]

Sorry hempyftw but when dealing with a system this big i would prefer to buy it, maybe next time when I know a bit more.

Thanks anyway

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Second floor? Hrmmm.....

Don't have any personal experience with the ebb-n-gro... I know there are others on here who have/do. It's simple ebb and flow with hydroton and will do well in just about any growable temperature.

Check it daily for proper controller function and set up the area to contain a complete flood. (much easier to pump/vac up a spill from a pond liner room)

Set your pH around 5.7-5.8 and drop it down when it goes over 6.0-6.1

Dunno what nutes you've been/are using but if it's stable like GH MaxiBloom or the GH flora line mixed lucas... I don't see any issues.

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[Hydroman00]

I just ran the new hydrolife7.8 bucket system and did great! Had a really good round and loved the larger numbers out of less plants!

http://www.thehydrolife.com/products/the-hydro-life-7-8

I used there coupon code and also called and they hooked me up with a good deal. They do make a 16 bucket site but the guy says he doesn't like to hook more buckets up to one controller. I know it is cheaper than other dwc systems out there. I think after runninig it also it uses a combo of dwc,aero, & top drip. I will say when I talked to the guy on the phone he was one of the smartest and nicest guys to talk with.

Either way good luck on your run.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Looks interesting. Are those really 7.8 gallon buckets?? Niice.

I can see running 2 8-site systems in your room, staggered harvest.

It's a constantly recirculating drip system with bubblestones and a control reservoir. Set your pH at approximately 5.2 and let it drift up to 5.8 before dropping back down.

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[Hydroman00]

Looks interesting. Are those really 7.8 gallon buckets?? Niice.

I can see running 2 8-site systems in your room, staggered harvest.

It's a constantly recirculating drip system with bubblestones and a control reservoir. Set your pH at approximately 5.2 and let it drift up to 5.8 before dropping back down.

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Ya they are and they are extra thick.(100mil) The top feed pump is set to a timer that comes on every 3 hours for 8 mins. It also has a separate cock valve on the 350gph pump for draining. I only ran 12 gallons of water in my 4 bucket system including the control unit. The 8 bucket systems runs about 25 to 30 gallons of water.

 

[tenthirty]

SOG, Ebb & Flow tables.
Butt simple, little maintenance, and works well.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Ya they are and they are extra thick.(100mil) The top feed pump is set to a timer that comes on every 3 hours for 8 mins.

Then the starting pH will need to be higher. (It drops as the hydroton dries out and the remaining nutes become more concentrated.)

Nice.

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[Iffy]

Why not go NFT with a full hydro set up. Easy to build or buy a gravity table. Hydroton & constant feed via drippers & recirc to a low 100L res. I've built tables 8' x 4' and they accomodated a dozen large plants easy. As long as your meticulous with your nutrients & temps you'll get amazing yeilds. Have to get your room dialled in though & not reccomended if your thinking of visiting infrequently. With this system there's almost no buffer, so problems arrive quickly and you have to be on-hand to deal with them just as quickly! There's loads of different ways of doing this amazing thing & this is the right place for all the information.
Whichever system you build mate, I wish every success with it.
Stay safe

 

[teemu shalanie]

nft wtf
TS

 

[Iffy]

NFT

NFT

nft wtf
TS

'Nutrient Film Technique' - constant flow of nutes over the root system.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

He said he wants to leave for a few days at a time.

E&F... you can always plumb a larger res to reflect fewer changes over a longer period.
Ultimate would be DWC with float valves... but it's on the second floor and I don't recommend chillers.

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[shermanitor007]

Hydro-Soil why not second floor? don´t think the place is going to be a problem other then if there´s a flood. I will check if can build something to keep the water in. Is this common,, That the system gets flooded?

Hydroman00 I will look in to it more closely. I think this is the type of system I´m going to work with. Will be answering your PM. How many of these would fit in a 10*10 feet room under 4*1000w Hps??

Iffy thanks man!!

Yes would like to be able to leave for a few days sometimes and not come back to see the plants dead But usually I will be there at least once every two days,, and now in the beginning I will watch over my plants every day.

 

[greenmatter]

it is not "common" that hydro systems flood, but it sure as hell happens

murphy's law most definitely applies to grow rooms, so buy some pond liner to cover the floor no matter what system you decide on

 

[Lathund]

I just ran the new hydrolife7.8 bucket system and did great! Had a really good round and loved the larger numbers out of less plants!

http://www.thehydrolife.com/products/the-hydro-life-7-8

I used there coupon code and also called and they hooked me up with a good deal. They do make a 16 bucket site but the guy says he doesn't like to hook more buckets up to one controller. I know it is cheaper than other dwc systems out there. I think after runninig it also it uses a combo of dwc,aero, & top drip. I will say when I talked to the guy on the phone he was one of the smartest and nicest guys to talk with.

Either way good luck on your run.

That system looks pretty good. Is it just a normal top feed dripsystem? Looks suitable for big tree grows.

 

[!PeAcE!]

aero and you shall fly I agree with the poster tellin yah to DIY it, trust me youll better understand the system and get more of a feel and understanding to how it all works. It is worth it in the end.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Hydro-Soil why not second floor? don´t think the place is going to be a problem other then if there´s a flood. I will check if can build something to keep the water in. Is this common,, That the system gets flooded?

I was referring to dwc and a second floor. 50gallons x 8lbs/gal is 400lbs of water per tub... If the floor can handle that... cool

Large tubs also tend to make more noise that can be heard downstairs. Concrete floors in basements leach off the heat without a chiller and are much preferred.

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