KillerDemo
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How close is this related to the real-deal cut of trainwreck in Nor-cal?, love this sativa heard once flowering starts that it can triple in size? anybody grown this?
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greenhouse trainwreck
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not at all... I had a pack... around when they first dropped (cause I like Pheno hunting) and there was nothing remotely trainwreck about any of the phenos I did however find a nice Chem Pheno in that pack of GHS trainwreck.
I believe GHS has problems controlling pollen.
my best recommendation would be to go for chernobyl man... it is better than the real thing... better taste, no harshness like the real cut, equally if not more potent and I haven't heard anyone say anything about nanners like the real cut either.
the real trainwreck is pretty average... some phenos of chernobyl are amazing!
I believe GHS has problems controlling pollen.
my best recommendation would be to go for chernobyl man... it is better than the real thing... better taste, no harshness like the real cut, equally if not more potent and I haven't heard anyone say anything about nanners like the real cut either.
the real trainwreck is pretty average... some phenos of chernobyl are amazing!
mr noodles
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you will never get the real clone via a fem seeds no matter the seed coe . its swing the genetics back in is track and you will see all kind of pheno pop out and some will be more related to the ancestry than the clone mother representation .
i tried the ghs tw . got sevral pheno , viney plant . strong high , very strong . taste from lime,lemony with a weird peach taste to piney vicks vaporub pheno . all potent and frosty as hell .
can i claim i have the real tw , no
i gave a strong 9/10 for the power and taste of that ghs representation under fem of a clone only . its one of the very strong ghs offering along lemon skunk , super lemon haze . for the price you cant go wrong if you are open enough to admit you wont going to grow the clone but seeds that might display some trait and similarity .
i tried the ghs tw . got sevral pheno , viney plant . strong high , very strong . taste from lime,lemony with a weird peach taste to piney vicks vaporub pheno . all potent and frosty as hell .
can i claim i have the real tw , no
i gave a strong 9/10 for the power and taste of that ghs representation under fem of a clone only . its one of the very strong ghs offering along lemon skunk , super lemon haze . for the price you cant go wrong if you are open enough to admit you wont going to grow the clone but seeds that might display some trait and similarity .
This may be a stupid question, but oh well. I'm not entirely sure I've ever had the real "arcata" trainwreck. Back when I lived in Indiana, the first time I encountered Trainwreck, and some Trainwreck crosses was in 2009. It pretty much exploded here, and was almost always available in Indy and Bloomington. This was after GHS released their "version".
Now, from what I've read about the real trainwreck, it's pretty common for it to be lightly seeded due to the plants having hermaphroditic traits, as well as being pretty sativa dominant in plant growth and bud appearance.
What I was getting all those years were small, but compact, nice buds. Not dense like a kush, but not fluffy by any stretchy or loose by any stretch of the imagination.
The main feature that I remember, which was the same with all the trainwrecks, and trainwreck crosses that I've sampled, was the unique taste. It was really lemony, but not in the traditional way with sours and chems. It was more like a lemon candy, than a citrus lemon. It had a really nice sativa-dominant high, but with plenty of body.
Basically, I'm wondering if based on that description, I was actually smoking GHS' version, because from what I've heard of the original, some people claim it smells bad, like a dead whale, and the shit I'd always get wasn't unpleasant at all. No dead whale smell.
It has remained one of my favorite strains of all time, based on flavor, high, and apperance, and I'd love to grow it. Unfortunately, right now I'm living in South America so I don't have access to any clones from dispensaries right now, so I have no choice but to grow from seed, or get clones from fellow growers here, who don't know anything about Trainwreck.
Now, from what I've read about the real trainwreck, it's pretty common for it to be lightly seeded due to the plants having hermaphroditic traits, as well as being pretty sativa dominant in plant growth and bud appearance.
What I was getting all those years were small, but compact, nice buds. Not dense like a kush, but not fluffy by any stretchy or loose by any stretch of the imagination.
The main feature that I remember, which was the same with all the trainwrecks, and trainwreck crosses that I've sampled, was the unique taste. It was really lemony, but not in the traditional way with sours and chems. It was more like a lemon candy, than a citrus lemon. It had a really nice sativa-dominant high, but with plenty of body.
Basically, I'm wondering if based on that description, I was actually smoking GHS' version, because from what I've heard of the original, some people claim it smells bad, like a dead whale, and the shit I'd always get wasn't unpleasant at all. No dead whale smell.
It has remained one of my favorite strains of all time, based on flavor, high, and apperance, and I'd love to grow it. Unfortunately, right now I'm living in South America so I don't have access to any clones from dispensaries right now, so I have no choice but to grow from seed, or get clones from fellow growers here, who don't know anything about Trainwreck.
tetra
there is definitely no candy in TW... it doesn't smell bad per se but has a signature aroma that is hard to describe other than simply being trainwreck... kind of has a mentholated, dirty lime, sharp, stinging smell... no sweet
its smell and taste is also very dominant in bag seed and hybrids... I have seen many different samples of herb that had the exact smell and taste but were more than likely bag seed phonos or some simple hybrid
there is definitely no candy in TW... it doesn't smell bad per se but has a signature aroma that is hard to describe other than simply being trainwreck... kind of has a mentholated, dirty lime, sharp, stinging smell... no sweet
its smell and taste is also very dominant in bag seed and hybrids... I have seen many different samples of herb that had the exact smell and taste but were more than likely bag seed phonos or some simple hybrid
That's kind of what I meant though. I didn't really mean candy, in the sweet sense of the word. I meant more like, it reminded me of a lemony sour warhead, or lemonhead, only amplified, and with an astringent, like you said, stinging, and almost mentholated smell.
That's what I meant by a more synthetic lemon candy, compared to some strains which smell more citrusy, like a lemon or grapefruit rind.
Most of my Trainwreck was coming from California, but some was also being produced locally, but it all had the same smell/taste. The thing that sucks, is it was never "this is ghs trainwreck" or "this is some arcata trainwreck, or the original trainwreck", it was always just trainwreck.
The only thing that leads me to believe it might have been the GHS or perhaps another ripoff or cross, was the buds were skinny and thin, but still nicely dense and frosty, they weren't whispy or fluffy like some sativas can be. They were always frosty, well grown, and always seedless, which comes in contrast to what I've heard about the original.
I'm kind of under the impression I had a real trainwreck, or at least a good representation of the original, considering all the various times I've encountered Trainwreck, and trainwreck crosses, like ou said, it comes through in hybrids. I'd be happy to settle for a good f1, s1, or hybrid and go pheno searching, because while it's not my holy grail, I've always been 100% satisfied whenever I'd got a trainwreck or cross.
That's what I meant by a more synthetic lemon candy, compared to some strains which smell more citrusy, like a lemon or grapefruit rind.
Most of my Trainwreck was coming from California, but some was also being produced locally, but it all had the same smell/taste. The thing that sucks, is it was never "this is ghs trainwreck" or "this is some arcata trainwreck, or the original trainwreck", it was always just trainwreck.
The only thing that leads me to believe it might have been the GHS or perhaps another ripoff or cross, was the buds were skinny and thin, but still nicely dense and frosty, they weren't whispy or fluffy like some sativas can be. They were always frosty, well grown, and always seedless, which comes in contrast to what I've heard about the original.
I'm kind of under the impression I had a real trainwreck, or at least a good representation of the original, considering all the various times I've encountered Trainwreck, and trainwreck crosses, like ou said, it comes through in hybrids. I'd be happy to settle for a good f1, s1, or hybrid and go pheno searching, because while it's not my holy grail, I've always been 100% satisfied whenever I'd got a trainwreck or cross.
Smelly_Cheese
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i take it your not a fan
not so much that... I'll smoke some good trainwreck and enjoy it, but around here there are far better options, and TW has just been so played out... like I said its good, just nothing really special
but I am definitely not a fan of GHS, if thats what you meant... I used to be though when I was a green horned newb to the whole seed business, that is.
and they do have some strains that are OK... I liked their alaskan Ice and would probably even grab a pack or two if they were available again... and have seen good things from their LS and SLH
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that's how the real deal is thin, loose (but hard), frosty stinky buds with lots of expansion and usually hash a harsh effect on the throat.
KillerDemo
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hit it right on the nail, has that dark green with some sharp funk thats i cant quite tell what it is, but when you smell it you know
RanchoDeluxe
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I've been growing what I was told was Trainwreck for a couple of years now. Everytime I hand someone a jar they look back at me with a big smile and say "lemons". It nearly got tossed out of the room back when I first acquired it, because it started throwin nanners 3 weeks in. It was so damn frosty that I let it roll. Might find a half dozen seeds per lb...maybe. It stretchest like a mother fucker, throws alot of branch, and has a hard time supporting itself. Nugs aren't rock hard ...but they aint fluff either. Love the taste of this weed.
I agree with infin not bad but better options... She dominates crosses a lot of times for the better great way to beef up a yield to some low yielders... Her high is nice I won't hate on tw I used to luv her late 90s her smell is def unique mentholated dead nose burning but not fuelish some diff type of rank funk... I like how ya put it "that's train wreck " ain't no mistakin it.... Huge calaxes are a another nice quality.... As for gh idk ur money I heard good and bad but I'd personally go with a tw cross....which is what I prefer to smoke now a days... Lots of nice ones out there... I'd go with og tw there's a ghost train cut that is phenomenal ....
hi,
ghs got their cut of tw to breed with from us. a lot of european and us breeders come to us for stock. we have had it forever it seems. ive run it since 93. truly unique sativa in that it has no bottom end and finishes in under 8 weeks indoor. so distinct in appearence, smell, taste and effect. at one time she was absolutely cutting edge but now just a must have keeper for her qualities.
best,
30y
ghs got their cut of tw to breed with from us. a lot of european and us breeders come to us for stock. we have had it forever it seems. ive run it since 93. truly unique sativa in that it has no bottom end and finishes in under 8 weeks indoor. so distinct in appearence, smell, taste and effect. at one time she was absolutely cutting edge but now just a must have keeper for her qualities.
best,
30y
Some of the best Trainwreck crosses I've had are OGxTrainwreck, Purple Trainwreck, and this shit called Freighttrain. All three, the trainwreck was very dominant. The Purple Trainwreck was a cross between Trainwreck and GDP, and it kept the GDP color scheme and taste, but the bud structure and high was pure trainwreck, which I found refreshing compared to the boring (IMO) high of GDP.
Here in Chile, we have a lot of seed stores, both physical and online. I can't recall the specific seed bank, but I remember seeing something called Candy Kush x Sk1, and they claim their Candy Kush is an OGxTrainwreck cross. I'm not sure if it's reputable though, because the Candy Kush I used to get back in the midwest all the time, along with Lemon G, was NOTHING like trainwreck or OG.
Anyway, if anyone has grown the GHS Trainwreck, as well as smoked the original, how is it? I'd be down to grow some out, if it actually does have some real trainwreck in its genetics
Here in Chile, we have a lot of seed stores, both physical and online. I can't recall the specific seed bank, but I remember seeing something called Candy Kush x Sk1, and they claim their Candy Kush is an OGxTrainwreck cross. I'm not sure if it's reputable though, because the Candy Kush I used to get back in the midwest all the time, along with Lemon G, was NOTHING like trainwreck or OG.
Anyway, if anyone has grown the GHS Trainwreck, as well as smoked the original, how is it? I'd be down to grow some out, if it actually does have some real trainwreck in its genetics
so you are from the midwest but now live in chile... that is awesome... they have seed shops there? even more awesome!
like I quoted above I have grown up around trainwreck and have grown GHS trainwreck and it was nothing like the real TW, out of ten feminized seeds not a single one was anything like trainwreck and only ONE was a half way decent plant.
GHS may have the real TW, but it is well known that TW does not respond well to selfing and doesn't pass on its traits well when breed in that fashion... like I said if you want TW in seed I would go with TGA's chernobyl it is better than TW IMO....
here is the chernobyl I had... I'll take this over pure TW any day of the week...
and a hybrid I made with her called The China Syndrome...
I'll keep chernobyl in mind, but to be honest, I had a really negative experience with a large batch a few years ago. I believe it was grown outdoors, and cut premature, because it had the highest leaf to bud ratio I've ever seen, and a mild high at best. It was definately pure key-lime-pie flavor though, which I found pretty nice, but that was the only thing I liked about it.
And yep, I was born in Chile, adopted as a baby, spent the first 22 years of my life in america, found my biological family via facebook, and decided to move here asap. It's always been my dream. And it's a great place to live my dreams. I've always wanted to live in a place where I didn't have to fear the neighbors, or the cops, all over a plant. Here, my personal cultivation and consumption is legal, which is all I can really ask for. Buying and selling are still technically illegal, but it's a grey area that's not strictly enforced. As long as you're being cool and aren't out on the streets trying to sell to kids, you should be fine.
And yep, within the last year, our national weed magazine, Canamo, now opened up a seed shop, called Seeds Bank, they've got two locations, and we also have some online websites that are located in the city, they'll send you your order, or you can meet up with them somewhere in the city.
Unfortunately most of our brands are either Dutch or Spanish, so it's not like I can go to the store and get some TGA or Cali Connection gear, which is what I want. Dinafem, Paradise Seeds, and GHS seem to be the most popular brands here, and when it comes to autoflowering seeds, Sweet Seeds dominates, along with some Dutch brands that have now developed autos. If you're interested in checking out the site, just go to seedsbank dot CL.
BTW, mad props on your chernobyl, based on those pics, the first one (im assuming close to harvest) looks fire. my batch that I had a bad experience with (a lb) looked like your second pic of your cross, definately premature, but with the same bud structure and leaves, to a T
And yep, I was born in Chile, adopted as a baby, spent the first 22 years of my life in america, found my biological family via facebook, and decided to move here asap. It's always been my dream. And it's a great place to live my dreams. I've always wanted to live in a place where I didn't have to fear the neighbors, or the cops, all over a plant. Here, my personal cultivation and consumption is legal, which is all I can really ask for. Buying and selling are still technically illegal, but it's a grey area that's not strictly enforced. As long as you're being cool and aren't out on the streets trying to sell to kids, you should be fine.
And yep, within the last year, our national weed magazine, Canamo, now opened up a seed shop, called Seeds Bank, they've got two locations, and we also have some online websites that are located in the city, they'll send you your order, or you can meet up with them somewhere in the city.
Unfortunately most of our brands are either Dutch or Spanish, so it's not like I can go to the store and get some TGA or Cali Connection gear, which is what I want. Dinafem, Paradise Seeds, and GHS seem to be the most popular brands here, and when it comes to autoflowering seeds, Sweet Seeds dominates, along with some Dutch brands that have now developed autos. If you're interested in checking out the site, just go to seedsbank dot CL.
BTW, mad props on your chernobyl, based on those pics, the first one (im assuming close to harvest) looks fire. my batch that I had a bad experience with (a lb) looked like your second pic of your cross, definately premature, but with the same bud structure and leaves, to a T
I didn't know it was legal there... that makes chile sound even more amazing... would love to visit someday...
what was it like moving there... did you have to change citizenship or get the equivalent to a green card or anything like that? or do you simply just go... and know you live there?
yeah that chernobyl was ready at the time of that pic and was a really really good example of TW (even better IMO)... the later pics of my cross are only at 33 days flowering so they should fill in a bit more
Luckily for me, if you're born here, you're automatically always a citizen, so all I had to do was go to the equivalent of a BMV, show my birth certifcate, and wait two weeks for my ID. For actual foreigners, you have to come on a travel visa, which is actually how I entered the country, and you can stay for 3 months, unless you find work, or a permanant residence. Afterwards, after 5 years of living here, you can apply for citizenship.
The only thing difficult for me was the language. I didn't speak any spanish whatsoever before moving here. I've been here for a little over a year now, and I can understand most things, but my own personal vocabulary isn't the best yet, but definately an improvement.
The only thing difficult for me was the language. I didn't speak any spanish whatsoever before moving here. I've been here for a little over a year now, and I can understand most things, but my own personal vocabulary isn't the best yet, but definately an improvement.
very cool!
Rosetta Stone, lol....just happened to see the commercial
, kinda expensive though
