Growing weed if legal and regulated

[cvk]

If and when weed is legalized I worry that our growing days will be over. Will there be a Bureau Of Alcohol Tabacco FIrearms & Cannabis that will put us in prison for 10 years for growing our own weed? Just as they would if when someone gets popped for making moonshine? What are your thoughts?

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Uhh... you can grow your own tobacco, brew your own beer and wine and distill your own liquor. Really. Check your local regs for how much of each.

You're just not supposed to be able to sell it without paying the machine it's share.

Stay Safe!

 

[cvk]

Uhh... you can grow your own tobacco, brew your own beer and wine and distill your own liquor. Really. Check your local regs for how much of each.

You're just not supposed to be able to sell it without paying the machine it's share.

Stay Safe!

Wow!, Thank you very much for clearing that up.
I fear the fucking BATF after previous run ins with them. Didnt know you could grow your own tabacco or make your own liquor. I did know wine and beer was ok. Guess though if its legal prices will drop by 90% and I wont need to grow. As long as I can buy some killer Jack Herer at my local Wal Mart. I can then free up my grow room and turn it back into a bedroom for my guests when they come to visit.

 

[mudvaynefan]

Wow!, Thank you very much for clearing that up.
I fear the fucking BATF after previous run ins with them. Didnt know you could grow your own tabacco or make your own liquor. I did know wine and beer was ok. Guess though if its legal prices will drop by 90% and I wont need to grow. As long as I can buy some killer Jack Herer at my local Wal Mart. I can then free up my grow room and turn it back into a bedroom for my guests when they come to visit.

You can now, for the same reasons you grew cannabis, grow indoor hydroponic vegetables. If your reasons for growing cannabis and quality veggie now that you have the skills have changed, whats really changed?

 

[Full Of Peace]

I'll still be growing my own, just because I like to.

 

[BlindDate]

NO one grows their own tobacco because it's simply way too cheap and easy to buy. Now that weed is legal it will go the same route. Goodbye hydroponics industry, goodbye growshops, goodbye equipment manufacturers, goodbye indoor growing. This is a game changer. Goodbye ICmag.

 

[CasioCalculator]

Tuh! Comparing the tobacco industry to cannabis cultivation is crazy. Beer is legal yet there are people who prefer to brew their own/ brewshops are still thriving. Why? Because people like to see their efforts turn into something. Especially if that something is able to ease ones ails, open ones mind, and relax ones body. If this mythical big cannabis produces subpar product like big tobacco does, the educated ones will continue to grow their own. You can count on that.

 

[Cool Moe]

NO one grows their own tobacco because it's simply way too cheap and easy to buy. Now that weed is legal it will go the same route. Goodbye hydroponics industry, goodbye growshops, goodbye equipment manufacturers, goodbye indoor growing. This is a game changer. Goodbye ICmag.

I agree it's a game changer but I see legalization being a very good thing for the equipment manufacturers and hydro stores. We're a long way away from Phillip Morris taking over the cannabis grow industry. If federal law changes that's another story, but even then I see tobacco companies taking a way bigger bite out of the Mexi cartel schwagg market than the premium market. I'll still be growing and smoking my sour diesel while folks who buy weed from Phillip Morris will be smoking sour schwagg.

 

[MissGreenDreamz]

All the states should first go through the process of recognizing patients with medical needs and approve MMJ programs/initiatives. That way those people have a right to grow their own medicine no matter what. WA is a great example of setting this up so that at least patients can still grow their own without all the tax bullshit and whatnot. We patients can still do our thing and trade/donate to dispensaries. There won't be many "legal" grows, as these will be huge warehouses micromanaged by the authorities and they may only dispense at ONE state run storefront. mmmmm chemy monocrops, yum. No two "warehouses" may associate or do any business with each other to keep monopolies from happening which is decent of them I guess.... Nothing has changed for the patients of WA. The non-patients will have the option (patients as well if they wanted to go this ridiculous route) of throwing down the half mil it would take to get up and running on a scale of production that would actually bring a profit after the 25% tax and their light bills get paid. Pretty ridiculous! But you know that indoor growing will never die! ICMAG might burn out like someone suggested if they don't evolve with the times like they are not, not sure if the indoor growshops will take a hit or not! I'm sure it will be business as usual around here. In fact, the way that WA set everything up, it seems as though the black market will thrive more than ever so I really doubt the local grow shops will go down hill. If people get right with how to grow, however, the grow shops would definitely be out of business anyway! You don't need most of the crap on their shelves to grow quality medicine. I'm not sure how sad I would be that they wouldn't be able to predate upon poor dumb growers anymore, as in selling a problem one week and selling the solution the next week. But I seriously doubt indoor growing will fade out.

 

[InstantKarma]

NO one grows their own tobacco because it's simply way too cheap and easy to buy. Now that weed is legal it will go the same route. Goodbye hydroponics industry, goodbye growshops, goodbye equipment manufacturers, goodbye indoor growing. This is a game changer. Goodbye ICmag.

dolt.

 

[Rufid]

NO one grows their own tobacco because it's simply way too cheap and easy to buy. Now that weed is legal it will go the same route. Goodbye hydroponics industry, goodbye growshops, goodbye equipment manufacturers, goodbye indoor growing. This is a game changer. Goodbye ICmag.

lol

 

[darkshadow]

NO one grows their own tobacco because it's simply way too cheap and easy to buy.

Cigarettes? Cheap? LOL

You Americans makes me laugh.

Up here in Canada, you can buy 200 cigarettes for 15$ from the Native American.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

NO one grows their own tobacco because it's simply way too cheap and easy to buy.

Actually... it's the 6 month cure process that blows it for most people.

People do grow their own and it's far superior to the cheap and plentiful garbage that big companies have out there.

As has been previously stated... many people will continue to grow their own. In fact, considering how different cannabis is from tobacco... I'm figuring there will always be a market for GOOD cannabis that's not the same old, same old crap from same said big companies.

Stay Safe!

 

[offthehook]

H-S is right on the curing tobacco thingy.

I grow my own tobacco but smoke it uncured in my sherlock.

It's just way to much of a hassle, even though I can cure it in about 1 month at 54C with 80% Rh steady.
Yakkie smokes these days, yeh, but it is what it is...

Gotten lazy meanwhile ^^

 

[medman225]

Dunno wat has been said in all posts in this thread
but id like to maka point
Legal can mean high cost low quality.... think if every walmart weed corp that comes in mainly grows bigbud outside and do a poor job at it...
and wallah this is the new 15g stuff in every gas station
now put alochol in that scenario.... as if wine ans beer were the only alcohols u culd buy(in dry countys like in dallas tx thats how it is no joke)... no think if this happened right after prohibition had ended.... it seems to me... drugs that are relatively easy to make(like alcohol herb tobacco) will alwaaaaaaaays be a buyers market....
so if all the above rum runners watched beer and wine become legal but not high end products like whisky and bourbon.... where do u think these rum runners are gona flock to as far as their succeeding biz in the wake of the lift on prohibition.
And likewise in the wake of cheap bland processed non flushed outdoor being flooded into a legal market.... that shit wont sell for shit wen us true potheads methods will b helping us to produce un competeable meds
also goin into the legal realm now
brand names will matter guys!
Think for a second if the guys who had the original diesel that got seeded by the hermie dnl had actually kept mother plants.... and not handed aaaaany cuts of ecsd or diesel1 and things were legal
and they were the only people across this country that sold sourD except for their verified distributors.... chances are in the last 8 years most of us wulda tracked down their verified distributors and bought the only sour diesel available on the market
The guys who made girl scout cookies did it similar to this.... but they kept their mothers to recreate the original cross and they held onto thier cuts tiiiight fora long time milkimg every dollar outta how exclusive the strain was in the begining....
My point in all this is believe it or not we can compete wit big pharma thats sure to gets its dirty paws into buds, to a degree that atleast lets us not get swallowed by these giant corpse

 

[medman225]

Hydro soil u got the right kinda thinkin my friend

 

[red rider]

I hope that weed goes legal world wide and the American consumer will have the most chocies of domestic as well as a wide range of exotic imports from friendy countries.

Peace from Colombia!

 

[huligun]

I would not just go planting any seeds any time soon, unless you expect to keep it a secret.

Weed is still illegal federally, and until they change that you are taking a risk. In Washington the only people currently allowed to legally grow are medical patients. It is very easy to get a med rec in Washington, and my suggestion has been to go that route until the smoke clears if you want to grow your own. As long as you are not selling any of it you are reasonably safe. The only people/agencies that the federal government has been harassing are those making serious money (Harborside, $20,000,000 net annually). It is safe to assume that the fellow that grow a couple pounds is okay, even if he off's a few ounces per run to help with expenses. I personally know Many people that do just that. They go on and on about the integrity of a medical grow, then sell me an ounce for $200. That is close to the line, but there are a lot of Harborsides out there for the fed to deal with.

The way the laws are in the USA, well they are complicated. You almost have to be a lawyer to fish and hunt without getting in trouble, for instance. The key is to know the laws, consult with an attorney if possible, and follow the law. I know that kind of goes against the way your average stoner thinks, but if you want to stay out of the system following the law is the safest way. I would say in Washington get a medical license and try not to sell any of it. At some point you will be allowed to apply for a non-medical growers license, but frankly I think that is where this is all going to come apart. I think the states and feds are going to keep that aspect tied up in the courts for a long time, longer than the year they are saying right now. I expect a lot of stalling out there. Hopefully while these government bodies are stalling some more states will become legal for recreation or even medical. Sheer numbers is what it takes to make these laws become winners.

Mi dos centavos

 

[Hydro-Soil]

I would not just go planting any seeds any time soon, unless you expect to keep it a secret.

Weed is still illegal federally, and until they change that you are taking a risk.

What people don't realize is that without local support... the feds are a sigh in the wind.

Yes... the feds can come in and bust anyone in Wash or Col. They don't have the manpower though. They depend on tips and support from the locals.

Now they'll have to depend on tips from the more programmed socialists who'll report directly to the feds, knowing locals won't do anything about it.

I'm not exactly sure, but I would put the odds of being busted (without doing something stupid, of course) by the feds at around the same as being hit by lightning.

Keep your plant numbers in check. Don't be stupid.

Stay Safe!

 

[storminmormon]

If you can grow good bud, you'll be fine. Be prepared to get reemed on taxes. I assume they'll also try to make you have to jump through the insane hoops of owning a business as well. Legally, who knows how it will work if it's legalized. I assume a lot like alcohol. I think there will still be a LOT of growers selling their goods illegally. Partly because it's been done like that for so long, and partly because when it comes time to "feed the machine" with taxes staying illegal might have some appeal.

I'm not sure. All I know is that if it were to become legal right now I'd be taking a loan out and starting a legitimate SoG operation.