diseasedmind
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Have a bunch of these in my soil. They are in the top layer, on the pots, near drainage holes.
Root aphids?
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diseasedmind
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I think they are legs but not 100% sure. I did some searching and they look kinda like hypoaspis mites. Most of what I am reading about hypoaspis mites is they stay n the top layer of the soil, and don't harm the plants at all. What is scary is the plants are not looking so hot and these things are everywhere.
@Megayields have you encountered these before?, do they cause damage?
@Megayields have you encountered these before?, do they cause damage?
Here are the best pictures I have of root aphids, hope it helps:
diseasedmind
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Thanks for posting those pics Pureknowledge, I think I am safe. Mine look more white than yellow and the front legs/antennas(whatever they are) don't tilt back like the aphids in your pictures.
ballplayer 2
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I had these, sorry I do not know exactly what they are. I know my plants looked generally good during veg, but went downhill pretty fast during flower. I also had some plants do some funky things like putting out odd growth or having a bit of wilt going during the last 2-3 hours of lights on during veg.
I am not sure if these came in my soil. They may have also been present as a result of an underlying condition such as overwatering, which may have led to root rot and these showed up to pick the bones. These had been present the last couple of times I tried growing, none of the crops were successful. I got some Azatrol, Met, Spinosad, and Imid I will be treating with.
After watching these guys move at some length, they seem to have six legs with two antennae. But I don't know, they could just as easily have eight legs.
I am not sure if these came in my soil. They may have also been present as a result of an underlying condition such as overwatering, which may have led to root rot and these showed up to pick the bones. These had been present the last couple of times I tried growing, none of the crops were successful. I got some Azatrol, Met, Spinosad, and Imid I will be treating with.
After watching these guys move at some length, they seem to have six legs with two antennae. But I don't know, they could just as easily have eight legs.
diseasedmind
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" I know my plants looked generally good during veg, but went downhill pretty fast during flower"
this same thing has happened my last couple runs also. 3-4 week in flower the fan leaves start dying and the buds never really fully fill out. thought it was a ph problem or over fert but now that you are having a similar issue I think these fuckers are doing some damage. going to war tomorrow. home depot better have something good.
this same thing has happened my last couple runs also. 3-4 week in flower the fan leaves start dying and the buds never really fully fill out. thought it was a ph problem or over fert but now that you are having a similar issue I think these fuckers are doing some damage. going to war tomorrow. home depot better have something good.
I remember these fuckers..sounds like root aphids sadly
there's hope I would use bayers tree and shrub at 5ml per gallon that what worked for me
heres some useful info
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=159960
there's hope I would use bayers tree and shrub at 5ml per gallon that what worked for me
heres some useful info
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=159960
8 legs, it's a mite. Yes those are legs up front.
Aphids have 6 legs. Mites have 8 except a larvae stage.
Hope that helps
Gs
Edit: also bayer tree and shrub will not kill them. Neither will botanigard, sns 203, floramite, bleach, bti, met52, spinosad, thriazacide ..... The list goes on
Bonides "Mite-X" does have an effect on the population.*
At any rate, I have them, my plants are great, they keep the fungus gnats down.*
Aphids have 6 legs. Mites have 8 except a larvae stage.
Hope that helps
Gs
Edit: also bayer tree and shrub will not kill them. Neither will botanigard, sns 203, floramite, bleach, bti, met52, spinosad, thriazacide ..... The list goes on
Bonides "Mite-X" does have an effect on the population.*
At any rate, I have them, my plants are great, they keep the fungus gnats down.*
diseasedmind
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You have the same mite? do your plants look good through flower? do you knock the population down with Bonides "mite-x" or do you just leave them be? where can you buy Mite-X, online only?
Root Aphids leave a white residue on your soil and base of the stem. They also can move very fast. Plants that look good in veg then wilt in flower is a symptom of RA. I have found met52 to be effective, although i bet some people don't have the proper environment to innoculate their medium with the fungus. You might want to check out:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=159960
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=159960
Question regarding the white residue. Lets take a side step away from those fuckers RA real quick. Can white residue be salts ? I always assumed its a possibilty. Okay back to pests...i have what appears to be clear looking mites on top of my soil like the OP. Im certain they are not spider mites though, as they just cruise around in the soil. And never go to the plant. Can other species of little buggers leave white residue as well?
I usually let me coco dry pretty good, so I have seen a dry-ish white residue on the top when its fully dry. I had always thought that was salts? Anyways, the Cannabis Infirmary is like women. The more you learn the less you know. Im going over there today, geared up like some fat ass on Doomsday Preppers wearing my nuke fallout suit with my Avid
One thing I have noticed - No gnats of any sort
Root aphids leave a white residue on your leaves, it looks simliar to thrip damage. It is a sugary poop basically. Ants and root aphids co-exist. Ants like to eat the sugar poop, so they actually put apids on their backs and carry them around and suck from their but. They herd them like cows. The aphids appreciate it because the ants provide security. Ants can bring aphids into your grow.
Well if there's anything I know about, it's mites and I've posted extensively on the topic. If you have the faded, nute type deficiencies associated with root aphids but are finding these guys its more than likely because the mites were attracted by bacteria or fungus in the root zone. That is you have a root problem. These guys are more like an alarm than the fire. Here are some quick facts:
1. Nearly all soil mites are NOT harmful. Someone will post about bulb mites, one of only a couple harmful mites, but very unlikely for several reasons.
2. Two groups are of importance Oribatid mites and Astigmatid mites. Oribatid are a common soil mite species (hundreds of species can be found in one meter^3 of healthy forest soil and litter). There are over 1200 species of Oribatid in N America alone.
3. The Astigmatid mites while not as diverse, are well suited for hydroponics, especially Histiostomatidae
4. Nearly all soil mites consume things like fungi, bacteria, decaying matter etc.
5. Most if not all mites are phoretic (able to hitch a ride on just about anything like other insects, you, bird feathers etc).
6. Impossible to eliminate once in area and why would you want to?
7. Some species, like Histiostomatidae (a subgroup of the Astigmatid mite) thrive in hydroponic systems and have evolved legs that are designed for an aquatic environment.
I've spent over a hundred hours studying these things with a quality stereoscope so if you have a question feel free to ask, otherwise don't waste your time or ruin your crop trying to kill em. Like I said, any problems you may experience are from something else.
Yes, and that's why I spread DE around all the corners, cracks etc of my entire basement, and any other potential entrance spot. I used to see a bunch of ants coming out of one area, haven't seen a single ant since.
