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F#$%ED up Thanksgiving
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MtnLivin
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This is why I'm not high or smoke around the elders in my family, because none of them are down with it. I do it more out of respect than anything. Saves a lot of hassle and hurt.
Don't get me wrong, I am a mad stoner, I go through two grams a day no problemo. But I still understand that others are not so down with it and it's best to keep it completely sealed away from that world.
Don't get me wrong, I am a mad stoner, I go through two grams a day no problemo. But I still understand that others are not so down with it and it's best to keep it completely sealed away from that world.
So yeah basically the day after Thanksgiving I get home and my moms dials me and says she found some sketchy shit in my brothers backpack. I tell her to bring it to me before she jumps to conclusions. Sure enough its a straight junkie equiptment kit, complete with tin foil, a straw and a little baggie of H. Kids been smoking heroin, told me when I confronted him about it a few minutes later. Came as quite a shock. He basically said he tried it when he had a migraine, he gets those pretty frequently, cuz his dumbass friends had it lying around. Kind of tugged on my heartstrings, I need that kid in my life you know? Can't be having him OD'ing on me.. I have hope cuz I fucked with dumbshit like Oxy/Dilaudid when I was younger and I'm ok.. Can't control him so all I can really do is hope.
Hell of a Thanksgiving weekend for me boys.
Hell of a Thanksgiving weekend for me boys.
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SeaMaiden
Damn....! Now, that would make me feel really sad.
Best I got is I managed to get myself bitten by a tiny little dog who bit really hard. He screamed like I was stabbing him, so he had to be terrified I'm sure.
If he gets migraines, I hear that Botox of all things can be really, really helpful. I know how those kinds of headaches can stop your life and cannabis doesn't help, it makes the headache much, much worse. You can talk to him, at the very least, and I'm sure you tried. He needs to be reminded of how he touches and affects the people in his life. I know how you feel.
Best I got is I managed to get myself bitten by a tiny little dog who bit really hard. He screamed like I was stabbing him, so he had to be terrified I'm sure.
If he gets migraines, I hear that Botox of all things can be really, really helpful. I know how those kinds of headaches can stop your life and cannabis doesn't help, it makes the headache much, much worse. You can talk to him, at the very least, and I'm sure you tried. He needs to be reminded of how he touches and affects the people in his life. I know how you feel.
I read the OP as saying "we went for a walk" which I assumed was away from gramp's house & therefore 'fair game' (in my book) as I've done that countless times myself (but w/o the meth head auntie) on holiday visits.
I hope we can agree that a few bowls shared amongst 3 people doesn't equate to those 3 stoners being @ the level of the behavior of other people drinking excessively; but I agree completely w/your point had they been stoning right there @ gramp's crib.
ogk, sorry to hear about your brothers habit, in my honest and very experienced opinion he's not gonna quit until he wants to, I've seen guys come out of jail after months or years and run for that pipe/needle regardless of the probation/parole ramifications.
I used to claim that freebase was "Gods gift to David" (me) as we sat around partying, I was always the 'cook' for each batch, nobody was better. that got me invited to everyone's party to maximize their product. And yet @ the same time I always knew they'd find me dead w/a pipe in one hand and the house burned down around me from the torch being knocked over.
it was a sick sick time for me, I tried AA, NA, outpatient & inpatient treatments and even private counseling but none of it worked for long. Finally I woke up one day feeling like the fucking junkie that I was and decided that it would be the last time I ever felt like that.
Thank God I got tired of feeling like shit instead of being tired of living, I turned my back on it that day never to look back even once, never another temptation or desire. THAT feeling came from within, instead of desiring the drug I desired normalcy, waking up feeling good.
This was part of my success: Replacement therapy. you can't take something (like heroin or freebase) from someone w/o replacing it w/another hobby. I gave up freebasing and started hunting & fishing again w/a passion. Cigarette smokers often take up chewing gum or sucking on hard candy's when trying to quit.
I hope your brother finds a better path to follow.
Dang S4L, sounds heavy. I know exactly what you mean about the replacement therapy, I volunteered my own ass for military school once I quit and was steadfast about not goin back to it. 6 months of working out harder than I ever had before got me good n' ready to face temptation again stalwart to relapse.. I'm spending more time with the kid and its strange he doesn't seem like a junkie, he's not angry or moody anymore than he is normally.. I don't even think he's addicted really, and that might sound like wishful thinking but my family at least on my dads side doesn't get addicted to shit.. I did hella opiates, my dad did every fuckin thing at least once and was never a habitual user of anything but weed. My brother says he's only been on it for a month too so I'm glad we found out so soon before he gets romanced by the life, you know? Before he gives up.. Thing that gets me is he doesn't fuckin talk! Like he talks but the moment its anything personal he clams up.. I can't tell which of his friends are on it either.. I mean I've seen one or two nodding the fuck out so they're obvious, the others not so much. I'm hoping to travel up north and find a cut of Herijuana that Loompa selected for its property of alleviating his own migraines.. We'll see. I'd be mad stoked to get him off it and have a stash for him to get rid of his migraines when he needs it. Maybe that's a little idealistic of me thinking what worked for me might work for him.. I've been tryna motivate him to go to the same military school I did... I'm gonna look into the botox thing too SeaMaiden.
Thanks for the support guys, really helps to have someone to talk to it about where it won't come back around and it isn't gossip since its anonymous... I'd pretty much be bottling all these thoughts up if it weren't for IC right now.
Thanks for the support guys, really helps to have someone to talk to it about where it won't come back around and it isn't gossip since its anonymous... I'd pretty much be bottling all these thoughts up if it weren't for IC right now.
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SeaMaiden
I don't know much about addiction at all, but I think I know plenty about personal responsibility. To my POV, based on what you've relayed, the responsibility for sobriety lies squarely at your aunt's feet, and no one else's. She was allowed to live in the GP's home (I thought I read this is your grandfather-in-law, did I get that screwed up somehow? It colors the picture differently for me when we're talking in-laws) under conditions, and SHE broke those conditions, not you.
The botox thing has blown me away, but I've got to say that it's helping my sister FINALLY live a life. Her migraines are unreal, and the drugs she's taken, the procedures she's undergone to be rid of them, to have just ONE week headache free... I honestly think I would have killed myself if I were in her shoes. She says she gets 3 full months headache-free with the botox. Oh! And it doesn't have a 'shelf life' like the other drugs that are used do (usefulness period, and then they're no longer effective).
Is there someone your brother will talk to? I would probably be doing the very same thing you are--giving cannabis to help with the pain (I give my ex-daughter-in-law herb for the headaches she's been suffering since a car accident, nothing else is helping her and she's got a young one to care for).
I find that just putting things into written words is quite helpful, irrespective of responses.
The botox thing has blown me away, but I've got to say that it's helping my sister FINALLY live a life. Her migraines are unreal, and the drugs she's taken, the procedures she's undergone to be rid of them, to have just ONE week headache free... I honestly think I would have killed myself if I were in her shoes. She says she gets 3 full months headache-free with the botox. Oh! And it doesn't have a 'shelf life' like the other drugs that are used do (usefulness period, and then they're no longer effective).
Is there someone your brother will talk to? I would probably be doing the very same thing you are--giving cannabis to help with the pain (I give my ex-daughter-in-law herb for the headaches she's been suffering since a car accident, nothing else is helping her and she's got a young one to care for).
I find that just putting things into written words is quite helpful, irrespective of responses.
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OrganicOzarks
Small doses of mushrooms spaced out 2 months apart will kill migraines for good. Google it. You will find it talked about in migraine forums. I had a friend recently try it, and it worked like a charm.
It lasted him almost 3 months. then he ate enough to have a mild trip, and he would be good for almost another 3 months.
Everything we need to heal ourselves is already here. We don't need corporations putting profits before health to "take care of us."
Fuck big pharma. I will go with mother earth any day.
It lasted him almost 3 months. then he ate enough to have a mild trip, and he would be good for almost another 3 months.
Everything we need to heal ourselves is already here. We don't need corporations putting profits before health to "take care of us."
Fuck big pharma. I will go with mother earth any day.
IMO my point still stands, I wont have people who have been drinking excessively in my house, even if they did the drinking elsewhere. A couple of beers-no worries, but if you are rolling around, likely to vomit, or probably going to be obnoxious/aggressive--go somewhere else
I have a relation who has told me in no uncertain terms they don't want me in their home when I am stoned, even if I don't bring anything with me. It is their home--their rules, I think it's lame, but it is fair enough..
would they even recognize that you were high?
rbdf
rbdf
Hey ocean grown, sorry to here about your situation. I have been in a similar one, I dont no how available H is to your bro or in your area but you may find the 'friend' who offered it is actually a pusher in disguise. Normally I am a pacifist but I found said pusher and told him that I would kill him if he ever even talked to my bro again.
It worked without easy supply he was able to give it up before it took hold completely, make know mistake you bro will get addicted and it will ruin his life if he keeps using.
It worked without easy supply he was able to give it up before it took hold completely, make know mistake you bro will get addicted and it will ruin his life if he keeps using.
Maybe not, TBH I look stoned even when I'm not, the amount of time I have spent stoned between 15 and 31 have etched a permantly stoned look into my face via the aging process.
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sorry about your troubles my friend. Thanksgiving sure can bring out the worst in family.
My Brother called me late Thanksgiving day. He was having Turkey day with his GF, his kid and our younger brother. Everyone had a few beers & some wine and my bro and his GF get into it 'cause she's a bit dizzy and gets a little mouthy when she's been drinking.
Long story short, she takes a swing at my bro and falls off the porch when he blocks her punch. Our younger brother pokes his nose into it, and the next thing you know the cops are there threatening to take my bro to jail for domestic violence.
He had to leave his home or go to jail and she's the one that threw the punch.
People be trippin man.
My Brother called me late Thanksgiving day. He was having Turkey day with his GF, his kid and our younger brother. Everyone had a few beers & some wine and my bro and his GF get into it 'cause she's a bit dizzy and gets a little mouthy when she's been drinking.
Long story short, she takes a swing at my bro and falls off the porch when he blocks her punch. Our younger brother pokes his nose into it, and the next thing you know the cops are there threatening to take my bro to jail for domestic violence.
He had to leave his home or go to jail and she's the one that threw the punch.
People be trippin man.
Quit being a hypocrite , a walk with just your girl would of prevented a lot of grief , I know too well about the bible belt, toooo much!
Well that makes two of us. I doubt that I could not have done it without my herb.
op... tell ur bro that if his friends are chasing the dragon.. he should find new friiends.
fiends make shitty friends...
n btw, i would be extremely skeptical of his story... no one thinks they are a junkie.. until they come to one day and realize they are one and by then its too late.
fiends make shitty friends...
n btw, i would be extremely skeptical of his story... no one thinks they are a junkie.. until they come to one day and realize they are one and by then its too late.
