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The Revolution

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Ive had plants frosted, and some actually freeze while still on the plant. I wouldnt recommend this or freeze drying method. The flowers died and immediated dried out, this was some of the harshest, and worst tasting smoke Ive had to date. These were nice Kush nuggets, that were once beautiful and glistening with trichomes before the cold temps ruined them.
 

BrownThumb

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Ive had plants frosted, and some actually freeze while still on the plant. I wouldnt recommend this or freeze drying method. The flowers died and immediated dried out, this was some of the harshest, and worst tasting smoke Ive had to date. These were nice Kush nuggets, that were once beautiful and glistening with trichomes before the cold temps ruined them.

Umm, there is a difference between freeze drying and letting your plants get jacked by cold weather, but if you want to base your opinion on that, go for it!!! I just don't think it's a great idea to turn others off to trying it simply because you have fucked a plant up. Seriously...
 

The Revolution

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haha my bad brown thumb. You may be right, maybe i misunderstood, "the freeze dry method" Just assumed it was similar to freezing flowers before dry.
 
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PermaBuzz

Agree 100% with this idea.
I have taken it one step further.
At harvest time, I dont cut.
I move the whole potted plant to a dim fluoro with 14hrs on time cycle,
water them, and then wait a few weeks or more till
they dry. This is a very slow dry and thus allows for a
sort of "on the vine" cure.
Because the fluoro is so dim, the trics wont overrripen to amber
as they would under normal lighting.
The fluro is on for 14 hrs to induce a very very slow reveg, more like keeping them stuck between flowering and revegging, in stasis.

What motivated me to try this was my past observations of revegged plants.
The leftover popcorn buds seemed to get more dank.
Revegging is supposed to typically lower the potency of the leftover bud - it may have been more dank but also overripe. So this latest method, I'll call it "on the vine cure+dry" I hope, will address those shortcomings.

I cant be the only one who has tried this but I've heard very little about it.
 

BrownThumb

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haha my bad brown thumb. You may be right, maybe i misunderstood, "the freeze dry method" Just assumed it was similar to freezing flowers before dry.

I hope you have a crop that allows you enough yield to try this on your own the proper and slow way. I believe you will be very pleased. The tricky part once again is not over doing it...it's really hard to tell how wet frozen buds really are, therefore it is easy to over-dry. The smoke I dried this way (picture of it in my album..unknown strain of glory) tasted fantastic grown both indoors and out, but the indoor was sweeter and a little smoother, the outside was just @#$%^ fabulous...People would gladly pay 50 an eighth for it in Sonoma county CA back in the mid 90's.... There's a shitload of great dope in that area, so that's saying something. It tasted even better freeze dried is the point...
 

TGT

Tom 'Green' Thumb
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I think it slows down the dry time allowing the chlorophyll to break down better and give an overall better cure. Just my 2 cents.

Edit: regarding the first post, sorry, forgot to quote.

TGT
 
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FlowerFarmer

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Agree 100% with this idea.
I have taken it one step further.
At harvest time, I dont cut.
I move the whole potted plant to a dim fluoro with 14hrs on time cycle,
water them, and then wait a few weeks or more till
they dry. This is a very slow dry and thus allows for a
sort of "on the vine" cure.



I was talking to some folks from the NW and they are employing something similar in which they call death rooms. At what would normally be considered harvest day the HID lights are turned off and low wattage lighting is kept on to keep the light schedule 12/12. The plants stop getting watered and are given a slow death in the pot. Once everything is dry and the plant has dropped the majority of its fan leaves they then go around and fine trim/ knock off all of the sugar leaves that are not one with the bud.

By far the dankest, most potent, flavorful bud I've sampled.
 

Budwhyser

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IMO, hanging the plant whole for a week or so and then brown-bagging them for another week or more before putting the buds in jars does the trick for me. They smell great and they aren't so bad to trim after all.

CL
So after hanging the whole plant for a week, when you brown bag it are you cutting off individual branches, or actually trimming the individual bud and then brown bagging?
 

trichrider

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wet work
when the fans begin turning yellow pluck them
this make the translocation of nutrients focus on the leftover buds resulting in a natural flush.
buds start turning yellow...chop, flush fini.
dry by removing as much stem as possible and hanging (if possible)

i try to time the watering to coincide with harvey so no water several days before
chop individual branches and hang

essentially starve them into submission. they experience stress and respond accordingly by producing what i want.

i've heard of reducing light exposure but rate it's influence neglible.

peace and puffs boys and girls
 

dank.frank

ef.yu.se.ka.e.em
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For a long time now, I've allowed plants to sort of eat themselves...in organic soil there is no flushing, and as long as the roots are alive they are feeding....

I simply stop watering completely the last 4 -5 days of flower and allow the soil to dry up. This forces the plant to feed on it's reserves stored in the leaves - most if not all fan leaves are crinkly and brown by the time I chop them down...

I then do exactly as you are talking PTB - chop the full plant and hang it to dry. However, I think my flowers are usually fully dry in 5-7 days, as they had already begun drying in a sense before they were ever actually chopped...

One of the most common compliments I get on my flowers is the unusual amount of flavor and how distinctive it is between various strains. I think this is in part due to organic soil, but also because of a hanging full plants to dry as opposed to trimming when wet. For the most part, after hanging, there really isn't much scissor work involved, the leaves break and fall away with minimal disturbance...

I have come to the conclusion my product is better across the board when done this way as opposed to a wet trim...



dank.Frank
 

mack 10

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An old head from the uk(ot1) used to advise this type of drying. hang mostly whole plants(he did sog style, short veg sativa strains)for around 3 weeks(in the uk)when dry you can jar them up and seal. no burping or whatever.super smooth taste and stanky herbs is the result, but at the moment i cannot have whole plants hanging for that long,too much space and time.
mack.
 

Phillthy

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i hung the last larry og as a whole plant. took an extra 2 days to dry but was by far the stinkiest and most flavorful i have grown. it was awesome. i hate trimming dry but it is well worth it.
 

Weird

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it depends on humidity but i normally hang whole plants if its dry (winter) and slowly break them down over time, or if its humid (summer) I hang full branches and colas and break them down over time

depending on ambient humidity i take off the fans and hang the whole plant and within a few days i take break ti down further to individual colas and branches taking off any non glandy trim leaves along the way

every time you cut off fans or trim leaves of breach the stem your giving the plant a way to lose moisture faster and unevenly, so the best cure comes from plants that are able to process out the moisture slowly and evenly over time

regardless i like at least a week hang before they get trimmed put in a bag to start the curing process

been doing it this way for a couple decades and would not changed if you paid me
 
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